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Soulex posted:Oh boy I wish I could agree. My views changed when I did the Dutch pistol marksmanship course which was no joke. To show us, the LTC (Dutch) commander did it, scored perfect and did it while smoking a cigar with no loving safety equipment beyond ear pro. Then he yelled at this AF enlisted dude who failed loving hard. That wasn't my experience with other military's on combat deployments.
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spacetoaster posted:That wasn't my experience with other military's on combat deployments. *Not a guarantee. Experiences may vary. (posts while foreign officer actively talks over the instructor to ask for help cheating)
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spacetoaster posted:That wasn't my experience with other military's on combat deployments. We all can’t get winners. All of my foreign stuff was really cool. All my normal Army poo poo was not.
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I didn’t have good experiences with the foreign armies I worked with. Which was limited to the Afghan army and the ROK army.
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Soulex posted:We all can’t get winners. All of my foreign stuff was really cool. All my normal Army poo poo was not. All my "foreign stuff" is awesome. Best parties I've ever been to. That's just stuff in the big European cities and fun places though.
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aussies were nice but horrible horrible cooks. georgians were hilarious un troops dont know what the gently caress ugandans were super friendly
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Kosovo mission: German troops gave no fucks and were super chill. Got to do a ride-along with one of their border patrols in the fall, meeting with locals and looking for illegal woodcutters. Awesome dudes. French enlisted were chill, French officers/senior enlisted were torture to work with. No, you can't use the emergency exit to bring the case of water to your office because it is closer, and we can't turn off the alarm now thank you. Swiss made fun of us for not being able to drink. Moroccans threw parties for every occasion. Food was always delicious. Super nice to work with, and really well trained in riot ops. Ukrainians gave no fucks, got wasted on the regular. Still the hardest working engineers ever, and would regularly get tasks done far above schedule. Also they cleared roadblocks with BMPs. Seeing a car do a flip because it just got hit with an APC is great. Turkish Army got shot done and went home. Greeks got mad we didn't refer to Macedonia as 'former yugoslav republic of Macedonia', and did little else. Kosovo security forces made up of young kids and these grizzled Yugoslav vets who fought in the war. Love Bill Clinton, had awesome stories. Danish were chill, did the DANCON. Hated it, got the shirt.
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boop the snoot posted:You have to be a miserable major in order to become a lovely bat commander! Mustang posted:Just so I can become a miserable major? No thanks So I was talking to my old S3 from my captain days recently. I needed an LOR for something and we were catching up over facebook messenger. former army major -> LTC posted:Zeris, what up. Have watched Facebook photos of you I various stages of "Born on the Fourth of July". What is the latest, where you at and what are you doing. After 4 years of trying for battalion command and ROTC I finally got the hint the army doesn't need me and dropped my retirement packet last week. Liberating but scary. 
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I am confuse.
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your S3 has been taken over by a markov chain i don't want to know what amazon is doing in those warehouses
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I don't see what's confusing about it but I respect that it sounds weird. I guess that was my point. Don't be the guy waiting for a chance at battalion command who takes too long to get the hint. Just remember. No matter how much you love the army, it will never love you back as much.
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Branches vary, but it's been my experience that the Army makes it extremely clear via a no-poo poo by-name list as to whether or not you are a BN CMD person. And if you wanted it, but didn't get it, embrace the freedom to pursue the coolest weirdo assignment possible for your branch/rank.
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Oh absolutely have a realistic view of what you're putting into and getting out of the career. He made it to that sweet sweet pension, should have no tears over that. But as a counterpoint about waiting for command: there are lots of influencing factors about who gets picked; be prepared not to be, since you don't want to feel disappointed for the rest of your life over some poo poo that will seem dumb in ten years, but if the Army lets you hang out and wait and you're cool with it then why not? If you wanna be a BC, there's probably going to be about a 30% selection rate among LTCs in your year. And those LTCs were the top 55-65% of the MAJ cohort, who were the top 65-70% of the CPT cohort, who were the top 90% of the 1LT cohort, who were the top 98% of the 2LT cohort, which was probably around 6500 officers.* So nobody should feel bad about making it to retirement, assuming they didn't act like a total turd during that time. *selection rates add 25% during major campaign surge, subtract 25% for year immediately following its loss of popularity.
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Aranan posted:My unit at Drum was supposedly transitioning over to making the 35Ts be the Trojan operators. I don't know how that wound up shaking out, but ugh... it was always nice to set it up and then ignore that thing. Yeah it’s called leaveweb and it’s existed since late 2002. You could still do paper leave forms until like 2008 or something.
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It sure would be nice if the Army had something like that. Maybe then I wouldn't have been screwed out of 33.5 days of pay after accounting for terminal leave. Reading dates on a piece of paper (but only if it has all of the signatures) is hard, you know?
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I got up at midnight to sign out on terminal down at brigade and they didn't have my leave papers. The staff duty guy told me that I had to wait until 0900 and then ask S1 to let me sign out. I told him no thanks, he can keep it, my flight is at 6 and I'm never coming back. Dude looked at me like I disproved gravity right in front of him. Still got my terminal time, suckers!
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The army’s switching to a new pay/personnel system based off PeopleSoft over the next couple of years and I’m going up to stress test it next week. I’ll take a look at how leave works, although now it’ll be called something else. Which as a sidenote I’m kinda salty that they’re changing the terms for a lot of things. For example your enlistment date will now be your hire date. My argument being that the Army doesn’t hire people but I’m betting it was part of the Oracle contract. Also I know in the end it doesn’t matter but eh.
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Go read any business school study of how big corporation X struggled to get their new ERP software off the ground. The lessons learned section will be exactly what we are going to learn by trial and error "the training happened too far ahead or behind of the fielding" "users didn't pay attention during training" "most people are still using the old software because they know it better."
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Retardog posted:The army’s switching to a new pay/personnel system based off PeopleSoft over the next couple of years and I’m going up to stress test it next week. I’ll take a look at how leave works, although now it’ll be called something else. Half of the army won’t be getting paid for two months after it gets implemented. When they fix it, the other half won’t get paid. And when they do get paid it will be the wrong amount. And in 15 years they will FINALLY fuckin FINALLY settle on a deployment uniform. Until they change it again.
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hahahhahhj have fun with peoplesoft bitches
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Oh here we go, I found a list of some of the terminology changes: Duty MOS/MOSC/AOC — Job Code Leave — Absences Paragraph & Line Number — Position Number Soldier — Member/Employee Unit — Department
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Sounds like they're too lazy to change the field names from civilian terms for the Army version of the software, and the Army got a low enough bid not to care.
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absenses doesn't even sound remotely the same though. Why not say vacation time
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45 ACP CURES NAZIS posted:absenses doesn't even sound remotely the same though. Why not say vacation time How long before someone in leadership utterly loses their poo poo because they read 'absent' as AWOL? I give it until the first time one of them takes a look at it, so ~0.5 sec after rollout.
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So under the new system, do you have to no-call no-show 30 times in a row before you get fired?
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Retardog posted:So under the new system, do you have to no-call no-show 30 times in a row before you get fired? Ohhh, auto-deleting someone's personnel file after the program automatically fires them for no-call/no-show should be an interesting shitshow to figure out!
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Icon Of Sin posted:Ohhh, auto-deleting someone's personnel file after the program automatically fires them for no-call/no-show should be an interesting shitshow to figure out! "SPC, I have some news. Seems the new software didn't understand that we had sent you to airborne and air assault schools and so it marked you as no call/no show for those five weeks. As a result, the system fired you and we can't figure out how to reinstate you. Anyway, long story short, you won't get paid until we figure this out. We figure seven, eight months tops."
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McNally posted:"SPC, I have some news. Seems the new software didn't understand that we had sent you to airborne and air assault schools and so it marked you as no call/no show for those five weeks. As a result, the system fired you and we can't figure out how to reinstate you. Anyway, long story short, you won't get paid until we figure this out. We figure seven, eight months tops." "McNally, the system fired your wife for being a no-show even though she's dead. It automatically cut all your survivor benefits and cancelled your ID. We'll figure this out in five, six years tops."
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Retardog posted:Oh here we go, I found a list of some of the terminology changes: Mr_Ruckus posted:Sounds like they're too lazy to change the field names from civilian terms for the Army version of the software, and the Army got a low enough bid not to care. If the government didn't ask for it then it wasn't in the bid and the vendor won't do it. Five gets you ten it gets a juicy contract mod within the first period of performance to make all those changes, though.
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Lol at 'job code' being half the length of those acronyms tho
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McNally posted:"SPC, I have some news. Seems the new software didn't understand that we had sent you to airborne and air assault schools and so it marked you as no call/no show for those five weeks. As a result, the system fired you and we can't figure out how to reinstate you. Anyway, long story short, you won't get paid until we figure this out. We figure seven, eight months tops." “Just got an email from higher. There’s a patch in the works but it’ll be a few months before it gets released. In the meantime we can rehire you, but you’re gonna have to go back to MEPS and get your butthole checked.”
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Just lol if you don't think the first person to get deleted from the system doesn't bolt and never returns.
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Vasudus posted:Just lol if you don't think the first person to get deleted from the system doesn't bolt and never returns. And then no one gets to go home until the system gets fixed.
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Retardog posted:Oh here we go, I found a list of some of the terminology changes: They said the exact same thing 10 years ago when they were 6 months from implementing DIMHRS for 5 years in a row, and we know how that worked out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_Integrated_Military_Human_Resources_System
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I remember that class in AIT. “This is DIMHRS. You’re never gonna see it so we’re moving on.” And then as a Reserve Soldier I spent eight weeks learning active duty systems that I’d never touch outside of updating DD 93s/SLGI in eMILPO. Probably why the motto was Army Strong and not Army Smart...
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