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Thoughts on "its actually good for the smoke botanist to have low luck because you never actually want the ailments to land but wants someone else (harbinger/necromancer) instead"?
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Nov 20, 2017 00:06
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Really depends on the party setup but it’s only worth worrying about with poison.
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Nov 20, 2017 00:11
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Tired Moritz posted:Thoughts on "its actually good for the smoke botanist to have low luck because you never actually want the ailments to land but wants someone else (harbinger/necromancer) instead"? Valid argument for Deathbringer Harbinger and Poison Bomb, I don't see why otherwise.
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Nov 20, 2017 00:12
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Ragnar Homsar posted:Valid argument for Deathbringer Harbinger and Poison Bomb, I don't see why otherwise. Faster Black Blade procs?
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Nov 20, 2017 00:57
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Strange Quark posted:Faster Black Blade procs? Exactly.
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Nov 20, 2017 00:59
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One annoying thing about my Harb party is that I have my ailment specialist in the back row and the two Frigid Reap users up front, so Black Blade is not particularly useful. He can make use of Black Shroud, I guess, but the way things work out, especially with Auto-Miasma allocation, there's no good way to have my damage dealers also benefit from Black Blade.
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Nov 20, 2017 01:07
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Ragnar Homsar posted:Exactly. Lol I read Deathbringer in your post as just for Toxic Reap, whoops.
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Nov 20, 2017 01:54
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Is EO2U worth buying? I'm not terribly interested in using the story mode party, to be honest, because I want to have a big bear or something on my team, but is it like EOU where doing classic mode somehow fucks you over?
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Nov 20, 2017 02:16
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The only thing exclusive to the Story party in EO2U (until you clear it, at least) is Fafnir, IIRC.
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Nov 20, 2017 02:43
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Grand Gigas posted:Is EO2U worth buying? I'm not terribly interested in using the story mode party, to be honest, because I want to have a big bear or something on my team, but is it like EOU where doing classic mode somehow fucks you over? Thankfully, that bit of idiocy was thrown out in 2U. The only thing you miss out on is the Fafnir class. Also if it's still on sale, I would definitely say it's worth a buy. Just know that 2U has the worst designed bosses in the entire series. (Unless you happened to like the pattern and scripted based nature of the 6th Stratum superbosses, in which case, have fun?
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Nov 20, 2017 02:45
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ZZT the Fifth posted:Can Hell Slash under the effect of elemental oils/prayers ping-pong back and forth with an elemental Chain? I just tested this. Sadly, while Chains proc Hell Slashes, element-laced Hell Slashes do not proc Chains. 
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Nov 20, 2017 02:58
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Tir McDohl posted:Holy poo poo Amalgolem was tough. I only won thanks to respeccing after reading the strategies talked about in the past page or so. the words of a man who didn't forge the bow with the defense buff skill it's good guys i promise it reduces incoming damage by 16%(?), my  smoke botanist is still using that bow on the third stratum and i really don't see her using anything else evere: unless there's a staff that gives a better version of the skill later
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Nov 20, 2017 03:00
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The White Dragon posted:the words of a man who didn't forge the bow with the defense buff skill There’s a bow that has a chance of cancelling out ambushes. My botanist has been toting that around since the second stratum well into 20F and it’s prevented a wipe on at least 8 occasions.
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Nov 20, 2017 03:16
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theshim posted:One annoying thing about my Harb party is that I have my ailment specialist in the back row and the two Frigid Reap users up front, so Black Blade is not particularly useful. He can make use of Black Shroud, I guess, but the way things work out, especially with Auto-Miasma allocation, there's no good way to have my damage dealers also benefit from Black Blade. I actually play slighty differently than you, but my idea of 5 harbingers would be two ailment inflictors (black blade) + frigid reap users up front, along with a deathguard, and two deathguard at the back. This way you can get black blade bonuses, your front death guard can spam their damage skill every other turn, and if you want your back line to inflict ailments you can get paralysing reap / gases to do the job. Xalidur posted:Chain Killer can proc multiple times from One-two Punch, but it's weirdly inconsistent. My most typical result was getting 2 procs for 3 binds, as such : Okay. I'll keep that in mind. Thanks.
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Nov 20, 2017 03:17
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How important is it to level up a Rover's animal call skills? The 75 TP price tag is making me a bit leery.
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Nov 20, 2017 03:48
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ZZT the Fifth posted:There’s a bow that has a chance of cancelling out ambushes. My botanist has been toting that around since the second stratum well into 20F and it’s prevented a wipe on at least 8 occasions. ehh, i know the bow and i just don't get ambushed enough for it to matter i guess? i tend to keep my party healed between encounters pretty well--especially easy now thanks to food and cooking--so ambushes are more frustrating than scary, if i get them at all.
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Nov 20, 2017 03:48
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Blademaster_Aio posted:I actually play slighty differently than you, but my idea of 5 harbingers would be two ailment inflictors (black blade) + frigid reap users up front, along with a deathguard, and two deathguard at the back.
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Nov 20, 2017 03:55
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Handgun Phonics posted:How important is it to level up a Rover's animal call skills? The 75 TP price tag is making me a bit leery. Very--they make a huge difference, especially for a Falcon Rover, since their best attacks use the falcon's stats entirely. The TP cost isn't so bad if you make good use of food, since eating TP food can easily restore the TP you spend to summon out of combat. The only time it's really an issue is if you have to re-summon during a fight. That said, I'd only max out one of them, the one you decide to specialize in.
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Nov 20, 2017 04:18
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theshim posted:I have two Frigid Reap spammers in front along with an Ephemeral Reap-specced Deathguard, and my back is a fully ailment-specced Deathbringer and a Deathguard that spends most of her time cycling Miasma Armor and Atonement. The problem with 5 Harbs is that in order for it to be fully reliable, you can only have Auto-Miasma on one person, ideally maxed. This allows my ailment user to drop Chaos Reap or Toxic Reap immediately on fights, greatly reducing the dangers, and my frontliners can usually annihilate the mobs with Frigid Reaps. The frontline Deathguard will often toss some debuffs, only really using the offensive potential on locked-down FOEs or the like, but Frigid Reap hits crazy hard against enemies with ailments so he's not needed. But if you have more than one person to use ailments, you're probably splitting points a lot of ways, and it means that Auto-Miasma is not going to be 100% reliable, which is really really dangerous when I need those ailments to land. Okay, I get it. That makes sense, but another thing you can do - you can give black blade to your ailment inflictor when they have spare points, plus frigid reap or chaos reap, then once the ailment is inflicted and their job is done, you can have them use frigid reap too. They'll still be your main inflictor, but they'll be able to take advantage of black blade. Not too useful in normal fights, but better in FOE / boss fights.
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Nov 20, 2017 05:50
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Harrow posted:The TP cost isn't so bad if you make good use of food, since eating TP food can easily restore the TP you spend to summon out of combat. i feel like i made a mistake keeping my therian a rover instead of making her my pugilist, not having the gourmet skill kinda puts a wrench in this because i have to eat two pancakes instead of just one, but my pugilist's TP usage is so economical that by the time she runs out, i'm usually heading towards the exit anyway.
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Nov 20, 2017 05:53
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The White Dragon posted:i feel like i made a mistake keeping my therian a rover instead of making her my pugilist, not having the gourmet skill kinda puts a wrench in this because i often have to eat two pancakes instead of just one Another tip: you know those tp up accessories? The first one is available in the 3rd stratum, sell a rare mine material (flint) to unlock it. And you get the glow brace through a quest in the 4th stratum I think. You can equip the TP up accessories on your rover, sleep at the inn, and you'll have all that extra TP. Go to the. Labyrinth, summon pet, replace the accessory with whatever armor you had on. Almost full or full TP bar and pet also summoned.
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Nov 20, 2017 05:56
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Handgun Phonics posted:How important is it to level up a Rover's animal call skills? The 75 TP price tag is making me a bit leery. You can get away with keeping it at 9 for most of the game but you'll want your animal of choice maxed out by the end of the 5th stratum for sure. 75 for a summon that should last you a whole dungeon run isn't so bad at that point. I also stopped using my hound around that point so that's 25 TP saved that makes up for most of the hawk's increase.
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Nov 20, 2017 06:01
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oh that accessory's a pretty good idea. i want to use the hound but its abilities seem way more support in nature, is there a way to make my hound archer more attack oriented or is that strictly limited to the bird? stun tackle sounds... unreliable.
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Nov 20, 2017 06:04
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The White Dragon posted:oh that accessory's a pretty good idea. Foot Pierce is their best general-purpose damage-dealing skill, but it requires that you keep leg binds up. They don't have access to the same kind of reliable high damage as hawk rovers, and they don't really have AoE damage options at all.
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Nov 20, 2017 06:08
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The White Dragon posted:oh that accessory's a pretty good idea. I love stun shot in normal battles. Arc shot is excellent for sniping the back line, I like it too. Foot pierce is great if you manage to land the leg bind (or if someone else leg binds for you) and then there is panic howl. But the hound is much more supportive compared to the hawk, so if you're expecting an attacker like the hawk, don't.
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Nov 20, 2017 06:09
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Thuryl posted:Foot Pierce is their best general-purpose damage-dealing skill, but it requires that you keep leg binds up. They don't have access to the same kind of reliable high damage as hawk rovers, and they don't really have AoE damage options at all. ...Technically Foot Pierce is a row attack. It's just not very reliable.
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Nov 20, 2017 07:15
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Clarste posted:...Technically Foot Pierce is a row attack. It's just not very reliable. It relies on leg binds. Rover isn't best at afflicting them. But they don't have to be the one to inflict the leg bind.
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Nov 20, 2017 07:33
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Prep Artillery + Buster Cannon + Dance Oracle = Holy loving poo poo. Crystal Dragon only lasted 5 turns. 
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Nov 20, 2017 07:35
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Blademaster_Aio posted:It relies on leg binds. But there aren't any other row-targeting leg bind skills except Chain Blast. So it's hard to reliably use it as an AOE attack.
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Nov 20, 2017 07:38
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Dr. Fetus posted:Prep Artillery + Buster Cannon + Dance Oracle = Holy loving poo poo. Someone demolished dryad that way. Clarste posted:But there aren't any other row-targeting leg bind skills except Chain Blast. So it's hard to reliably use it as an AOE attack. Yeah, that's true.
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Nov 20, 2017 07:56
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Anyone have any luck scanning QR codes? I try to get my camera to register and... no luck. It's like it hates me, or something. Also, the katana "Shokudaikiri" has the flavor text "This blade supposedly cut through a bronze candelabrum to kill the villain behind it." What is this a reference to? sethimothy fucked around with this message at 15:10 on Nov 20, 2017 |
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Nov 20, 2017 14:35
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sethimothy posted:Anyone have any luck scanning QR codes? I try to get my camera to register and... no luck. It's like it hates me, or something. Shokudai-kiri (燭台切) means 'candlestick cut' so it might just be its name. Edit: vvvv well there you go, I tried to look it up but kept just getting some anime guy with that name. Prism fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Nov 20, 2017 |
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Nov 20, 2017 15:32
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sethimothy posted:Anyone have any luck scanning QR codes? I try to get my camera to register and... no luck. It's like it hates me, or something. A story goes that once Date Masamune once was trying to kill a servant who decided to hide behind a bronze candlestick stand, but Masamune just cut the stand and the guy behind it in half, and then the katana was known as Shokudaikiri Mitsutada; Mitsutada being the name of the person who forged the katana, and Shokudaikiri literally means "Candleabrum Cut". Japanese Wikipedia link
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Nov 20, 2017 15:35
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sethimothy posted:Anyone have any luck scanning QR codes? I try to get my camera to register and... no luck. It's like it hates me, or something. Apparently QR codes are region locked, with no indication as to which region the code belongs to. Try another one.
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Nov 20, 2017 16:10
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There's clearly something else going on, because I've tried every code that got posted so far without success. To be clear, I have scanned QR Codes with this 3DS before, albeit from Pokemon Sun rather than Etrian Odyssey. I just have no idea what's causing it. edit: Just to be sure, I tried scanning more Pokemon QR codes and they still work fine. Rangpur fucked around with this message at 16:49 on Nov 20, 2017 |
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Nov 20, 2017 16:41
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My team of Chain Fencer/Barrage Pugilist/Blade Dancer Masurao/Smoke Herbalist/Omnimancer Warlock just beat the Crystal Dragon on the first attempt.  Time for the last stratum!
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Nov 20, 2017 16:53
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It's just very hard to scan because there's so much info in the code. Blame the customization.
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Nov 20, 2017 19:00
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I just copied the images into MS Paint and then blew them up. Had no trouble scanning any of them after that.
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Nov 20, 2017 19:10
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I had to zoom in on the codes to get them to work.
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Nov 20, 2017 19:10
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I finaly managed to kill the first boss too! I tried with a Dragoon/Fencer/Harbringer/Rover/Botanist party first, but had to switch out the Harbringer to a Warlock (I had a horrible luck with Paralyzing Reap, and poisoning seemed to be a better option with my botanist). Anyway here's my updated card for EU goons. 
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