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Former DILF posted:yeah but i'd still rather vote bernie for dictator legibus faciendis et reipublicae constituendae causa before rejoining the pedoph isles i know this isnt a fair jab considering our kidfucker twitter troll head of state but i just wanted to repost pedoph isles
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Zippy the Bummer posted:i enjoy the fact that the Founders designed all the federal government buildings to look like Republican Rome so it's all plain colorless slate grey but no one knew at the time that the Romans painted their buildings in loud garish colors, because the paint on the Roman ruins had worn off centuries before always time to paint it red I hear guillotines are pretty good for that sort of thing
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Former DILF posted:i know this isnt a fair jab considering our kidfucker twitter troll head of state but i just wanted to repost pedoph isles yeah it's a good one, if the daily mail hated Britain as much as they do [INSERT MINORITY] they'd use it as often as possible
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Zippy the Bummer posted:i enjoy the fact that the Founders designed all the federal government buildings to look like Republican Rome so it's all plain colorless slate grey but no one knew at the time that the Romans painted their buildings in loud garish colors, because the paint on the Roman ruins had worn off centuries before the statue of george washington as jupiter stator is an enormous obscenity too
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democrats, obama, and bill clinton being fiendish neoliberals are why trump is president. also you can't have a democracy under capitalism lol. the legislation passed by congress has a very long time ago stopped representing popular opinion.
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comedyblissoption posted:democrats, obama, and bill clinton being fiendish neoliberals are why trump is president. what's the difference between a liberal and a neoliberal? genuinely asking here
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Waffle House posted:Yep. It's the thread again. Aka the brown one
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Mr.Tophat posted:what's the difference between a liberal and a neoliberal? genuinely asking here liberals want to get naked in public and neoliberals want to get naked in front of a kid but can't admit that so they own banks, yachts, private islands and preteen modeling agencies
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FDR liberals generally embraced the new deal and keynesian economics. This somewhat continued with dissent through truman and LBJ. Neoliberals reject the new deal and believe in the virtue of 'the free market' with religious fervor. Liberals courted workers and the union movement. Neoliberals have abandoned workers and the union movement. The reason why neoliberalism is the natural outcome of liberalism in a capitalist society is that economic inequality will result in the wealthy corrupting the political process. The wealthy predictably want more for themselves even at the expense of workers and their fellow citizens. comedyblissoption has issued a correction as of 09:50 on Nov 20, 2017 |
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Former DILF posted:liberals want to get naked in public and neoliberals want to get naked in front of a kid but can't admit that so they own banks, yachts, private islands and preteen modeling agencies what i'm getting here is that neoliberals are way more powerful than neonazis
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Also neoliberals (and conservative politicians) don't actually believe in the free market. That is just religious tripe that they tell you to justify loving over workers. Neoliberalism heavily supports the government nanny state and government welfare to prop up the wealthy. See: any major bailout, public sector R&D taken over by business, etc.
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comedyblissoption posted:FDR liberals generally embraced the new deal and keynesian economics. This somewhat continued with dissent through truman and LBJ. Neoliberals reject the new deal and believe in the virtue of 'the free market' with religious fervor. Liberals courted workers and the union movement. Neoliberals have abandoned workers and the union movement. I'm not American, I don't understand. New deal? I understand the free market stuff and union stuff tho, thanks for giving me some info Do neoliberals call themselves neo-liberals? Neo-nazis call themselves neo-nazis don't they?
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Mr.Tophat posted:Do neoliberals call themselves neo-liberals? Neo-nazis call themselves neo-nazis don't they? Depends who they're talking to.
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Nov 20, 2017 09:56
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why not just google 'New Deal'
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Zippy the Bummer posted:why not just google 'New Deal' because I've gotten some really helpful pithy answers to my questions that I wouldn't get from just looking this poo poo up like this: Former DILF posted:as an american, what I see is we had some literal slaveowners who wanted to cosplay as the roman republic but didnt really know what the gently caress they were doing so they cobbled together some dumb poo poo that fell apart basically immediately
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The worker movement in the US was very violent and bloody. By the 1920s they had been utterly crushed. Workers toiled under a capitalist hellhole of wage slavery. The New Deal in American politics were drastic pro-worker policy changes and business regulations that were instituted during the great depression in the 30s when FDR was president. Social Security, minimum wage laws, child labor laws, 40 hour work weeks, banking regulations to improve stability, pro-union legislation, etc. were passed. The government created on a temporary basis 10 million public sector jobs when the population was 50 million. The top marginal income tax rate was over 90+%. The pro-worker legislation was passed due to the threat of anti-capitalist revolution and a large workers movement. This Keynesian spending, regulation, and public sector meddling in the markets (against principles of neoliberals) caused the largest middle class to be created in history and private union membership of 35%. Today that middle class is dying and private union membership is ~6%. You can thank neoliberal ideology and the modern democrats for that.
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also if you're gunna lol at america, sometimes you have to ask why a joke is funny because you don't understand what corncobbed means phasmid posted:Depends who they're talking to. I can just imagine a bright eyed left winger talking with their favorite sociology lecturer about their views guardedly and the lecturer speaking soft words of, "it's okay, you can say you're a neoliberal here, this is a safe space"
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comedyblissoption posted:The worker movement in the US was very violent and bloody. By the 1920s they had been utterly crushed. Workers toiled under a capitalist hellhole of wage slavery. Thank you very much!
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Mr.Tophat posted:what's the difference between a liberal and a neoliberal? genuinely asking here these phrases are actually all hosed up so i'm gonna go back hundreds of years into the history of these words to get at their roots Its actually a triumvirate, with the third being the classical liberal: quote:what we now call Classical Liberals were people rediscovering Democracy and the Republic in an age of Monarchy, these include people like Adam Smith and Jean-Jaques Rousseau. The western european economy had reached such a state that the commodity was in wide use and the King of England kept his throne by granting a powerful Duke the right to begin a corporate entity that would become the USA, then known as the London Company. So back in these times it was progressive to be like  "hey, i should be able to run a company and the king shouldn't be able to compete with me by using foreign slave labor", and business owners won the day and here we are 300 years later.So neoliberalism is a reference to a time when capitalism was progressive when compared to an mercantile economy under an autocratic monarch liberalism, aka 1960s lets be groovyism is a about actual liberty and is a nonsequiter
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Zippy the Bummer posted:i enjoy the fact that the Founders designed all the federal government buildings to look like Republican Rome so it's all plain colorless slate grey but no one knew at the time that the Romans painted their buildings in loud garish colors, because the paint on the Roman ruins had worn off centuries before  the White House!--- Democrats and Republicans, more like Demoralizers and Repugnants, am I right 
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walking around the DC mall is fun cause you can tell they're going for greco-roman sophistication and refinement and it comes off as a kid wearing his dads suit
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 The new wave of anti-worker democrats taking over the party starting in the 70s and 80s. They called themselves neoliberal until the term took on a derisive meaning due to critiques from the left. Some still proudly self-identify as neoliberal. https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/05/history-of-neoliberal-meaning/528276/ Thomas frank talks about this ideology in various speeches and in his book "Listen, Liberal!" Although hypocritical in practice, the ideology's premise is rooted in the virtues of the 'free market', meritocracy, and foreign intervention. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibDX92b5cnY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9u2aR19P3g
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Liberal in the current american lexicon is the predominant policies of the democrats. Neoliberal draws a distinction between predominant democratic party policy in the mid 70s to now and what it was from the 30s to the 70s. These policies really took root once Bill Clinton became president. The preferred policies of the democratic politicians is often very different from the preferred policies of the democratic voters.
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Sanders' public positions on "socialism" is just to return to and expand the FDR New Deal politics which the democrats have long abandoned. Medicare for All (or a similar program) used to be a mainstream democratic party position during the days of Lyndon Johnson. Sanders' policies are why he is the most popular politician in American politics today. Democrats' abandonment of New Deal politics in favor of anti-worker policies is why their popularity is less than trump's. Today, both Obama and Clinton literally attempted to secretly privatize or cut Social Security with the republicans. The Monica Lewinsky scandal may have saved the nation from the privatization of Social Security.
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real liberals tried to live in communes and now run a bong shop in oregon, neoliberals pay lipservice to minority rights etc to get votes & money & gently caress kids on epstein's private island
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Former DILF posted:real liberals tried to live in communes and now run a bong shop in oregon, neoliberals pay lipservice to minority rights etc to get votes & money & gently caress kids on epstein's private island Roy Moore is half neoliberal.
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reagan was kind of the first neoliberal, he was very much for deregulation and his wife was the blowjob queen of hollywood
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the word neocon came into usage because republicans cant ever be called liberal ever but even bush was all about the free market and young trim
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on economic affairs democrats and republicans are essentially aligned on the big picture and ideologically
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american workers and the public generally hate the idea of manufacturing jobs being offshored at a massive scale. yet, that is exactly the policies that the democrats, republicans, and the capitalist class pushed. if you're dumb you would call this democracy and would try to find tiny differences between the two business parties as meaningful and worthy of praise
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comedyblissoption posted:american workers and the public generally hate the idea of manufacturing jobs being offshored at a massive scale. yet, that is exactly the policies that the democrats, republicans, and the capitalist class pushed. if you're dumb you would call this democracy and would try to find tiny differences between the two business parties as meaningful and worthy of praise actually they're completely fine with outsourcing as long as the "furrens dun cum heyah n tek are jerbs", this is because american workers and the general public are the dumbest motherfuckers on earth and deserve to have their gross flab stripped from their idiot skeletons via nuclear shockwave.
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nice meltdown
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Jose Mengelez posted:actually they're completely fine with outsourcing as long as the "furrens dun cum heyah n tek are jerbs", this is because american workers and the general public are the dumbest motherfuckers on earth and deserve to have their gross flab stripped from their idiot skeletons via nuclear shockwave. 
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Blast of Confetti posted:nice meltdown 
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Death to america
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Jose posted:Death to america
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https://youtu.be/pig-rPUi6Y0?t=19 I'm re-hydrated
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Jose Mengelez posted:actually they're completely fine with outsourcing as long as the "furrens dun cum heyah n tek are jerbs", this is because american workers and the general public are the dumbest motherfuckers on earth and deserve to have their gross flab stripped from their idiot skeletons via nuclear shockwave. Why do you upset about things you don't actually understand, foreign man?
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When I think of unions I think of the guys who recently went to jail in philadelphia for literally beating up people that didn't want to hire them (as well as people from other unions competing for their work). Also those guys who oppose modernization in ports because it'll cost jobs.
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