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Mikl posted:Gunarm dude at least had a personal vendetta against Kenshin, for denying him a warrior's death. Puppet dude was just a creep, and... I don't actually remember the one who fought Yahiko, which goes to show how forgettable he was. Wasn't it the flying explosion dude?
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Kyoto arc of Kenshin is still probably the best top-to-bottom shounen arc I've seen or read. Arguably some in One Piece have gotten close, but Kyoto will always be my favorite. Jinchuu was honestly kind of a letdown; it certainly got a lot of attention at the time it first got scanlated based on the premise that it was the "real" ending arc that the anime had botched, but outside of Enishi himself none of the fights or story content really measured up. That said, while I do prefer the general positive nature of Kenshin as a series, in Jinchuu the apparent death of Kaoru is insane and part of me wishes it had been for real. I don't know how the series could have possibly ended satisfactorily if it had been, but it still kind of felt half-assed what they went with instead.Caros posted:Holy poo poo that translation is painfully bad. I mean, thanks on behalf of other people, but that is just horrendous.
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:Wasn't it the flying explosion dude? No, he was the one Yahiko fought in the Kyoto arc. The one I can't remember is the one from the Enishi arc.
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yahiko fought the lovely assassin in the enishi arc. his whole gimmick was that he was a low tier fighter but had a bunch of assassin tools, i do like yahiko tho and it was cool seeing him mature
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Yahiko had quite a few fights that arc. Think he might've gotten more than Sano did actually. He fought the lovely assassin, then the giant with the machine gun, then that final fight with one of the 4 randos before Kenshin got to fight Enishi.
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Nate RFB posted:Kyoto arc of Kenshin is still probably the best top-to-bottom shounen arc I've seen or read. Arguably some in One Piece have gotten close, but Kyoto will always be my favorite. Jinchuu was honestly kind of a letdown; it certainly got a lot of attention at the time it first got scanlated based on the premise that it was the "real" ending arc that the anime had botched, but outside of Enishi himself none of the fights or story content really measured up. That said, while I do prefer the general positive nature of Kenshin as a series, in Jinchuu the apparent death of Kaoru is insane and part of me wishes it had been for real. I don't know how the series could have possibly ended satisfactorily if it had been, but it still kind of felt half-assed what they went with instead. There was an interview a couple of years back that talked about the Kaoru thing where the author went over the same back and forth of how he decided to let Kaoru live. His answer is thst it was basically the Kyoto arc that saved her. Originally the Kyoto arc was supposed to be the Jinchuu arc, and Kaoru was supposed to get offed permanently. With fan reaction to her, and his own growth as an author, he decided that kenshin deserved to have a happy ending, which you are never going to get if she ended up dead.
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New chapter dropped in the 11/6 issue of Jump, for the record. God I missed these characters. 
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Holy poo poo, Yahiko almost blocked a Kuzu Ryu Sen with his bare hands. Also lol forgot about Sano's Brother going to the Dojo.
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Hopeford posted:I'm not even sure why, but Yahiko giving back the sword kinda made me sad. Hope he appears again in the series, would be a bummer if he stays out of this whole arc from now on. Fairly certain that he will in some form or another. I did like what they did with it, and how they acknowledged that Kenshin's 'non-lethal' fighting style consists of beating someone to within an inch of their life with a few feet of steel. Nice to see the acknowledgement that part of what makes Kenshin so scary is that he is capable of beating such high level opponents while also having to constantly reserve himself from caving in their skulls. Also, I'm surprised they slipped the 'stamina' joke in there about Kenshin and Kaoru. Cute touch, and the faces were priceless.
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Seems like the return will be a brief one? https://twitter.com/Cheesemeister3k/status/932859280918683648
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The article's only in japanese but google translating is enough to get the gist https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20171121-00050067-yom-soci
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Contrary to what that other tweet is saying about not being shocked, this feels really out of the blue for me. Rurouni Kenshin was really, really, really detatched from that sorta content, and the same goes for what I remember of Busou Renkin.
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idk what to say to that other than it sucks and I'm disappointed. now that's gonna be associated with kenshin and busou renkin forever whenever I think about them
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Dude. Watsuki was like, an inspiration to me when I was younger. Reading Rurouni Kenshin and all the notes he put in about the process of getting it created and published made me wanna create stuff too. I loving love RuroKen and Buso Renkin so much, and I thought the author was like, this incredible creator for making both of those and for being a teacher to Oda and Takei. I kinda don't know how to process this. This is....extremely hosed up. 
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Nov 21, 2017 08:23
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Wow, that's surprising. I can't believe this is the second time I heard of a mangaka getting arrested (the first was Toriko's mangaka).
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Nov 21, 2017 08:32
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jeez what the gently caress there are a shitload of manga artists that I could believe are closet pedophiles but Watsuki was not one of them
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Mraagvpeine posted:Wow, that's surprising. I can't believe this is the second time I heard of a mangaka getting arrested (the first was Toriko's mangaka). I'm still amazed that the author was allowed to return.
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quote:According to investigators, Nishiwaki admitted to possession of multiple DVDs in October, with videos showing naked girls in the early 10's. "I liked girls from elementary school high school grade to second grade junior high school students."  Well, there goes my ability to enjoy his work 
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Mraagvpeine posted:Wow, that's surprising. I can't believe this is the second time I heard of a mangaka getting arrested (the first was Toriko's mangaka). iirc the Log Horizon guy went to jail for tax evasion also I didn't know that Toriko's creator got arrested for having sex with a child prostitute and still managed to have a successful career anyway. wtf Japan 
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Yeah it's really hosed up. https://twitter.com/NeutralMacaron/status/932871046834917376
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"Rurouni Kenshin is back, baby!" And the baby sprints away.
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Motherfuck. And I was just looking forward to this months chapter.
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HorseRenoir posted:also I didn't know that Toriko's creator got arrested for having sex with a child prostitute and still managed to have a successful career anyway. wtf Japan It happened before he got famous and made Toriko (over half a decade, in fact) so it was easy enough to sweep under the rug for a while. Of course, the social climate, both in Japan and globally, was also a little different, and he'd be in a lot more trouble today. VJeff posted:Dude. Watsuki was like, an inspiration to me when I was younger. Reading Rurouni Kenshin and all the notes he put in about the process of getting it created and published made me wanna create stuff too. I loving love RuroKen and Buso Renkin so much, and I thought the author was like, this incredible creator for making both of those and for being a teacher to Oda and Takei. This is where I'm at as well. Kenshin (or "Samurai X", as I watched the Animax dub as a teen living in Indonesia with Aussie satellite) was absolutely formative in terms of me discovering "good anime" and that animation could be used for more than gags, and I had a lot of respect for Watsuki for loosening the boundaries between "boys" and "girls" stories. While The Videogames of my youth inspired me to enter the field I did, Kenshin was especially crystallizing for young SpaceDrake in terms of making me want to help bring to English the Cool Stuff that was clearly happening outside the Anglosphere and could have a positive effect on people (I knew a lot of other teens my age who liked Kenshin, too). While in some ways Kenshin is bigger than just Watsuki, it'll never be quite what it once was. At the very least, the revival is over. I expect news of the cancellation of Hokkaido-hen to drop within the next 72 hours, tops. (Fake edit: hah, it dropped as I was writing this post. And hiatus means "poo poo's donezo, kids".) And certainly the planned animated adaptation is going to be cancelled. Hell, I've seen some folks wondering if the Kenshin characters in Puzzle and Dragons will remain, because public scandal and disgrace of this sort tends to result in everything a creator did just disappearing. I think the worst part of this is, we say we didn't see this coming, and I still didn't... but this does put a few things in a completely different light. Namely, Misao. That point where they harp on the fact that she looks 12-13 despite being 16 (12 would be the upper age bracket of what Watsuki admitted being attracted to). Her showing up in an arc where she really kind of clashed with the tone otherwise, and being bolted onto an existing group that felt like a bit of a mismatch for her. That always weird as hell attraction she had to Aoshi. Her eventual hooking up with him in the epilogue. It always felt a little strange, but in light of what we know now, it all comes across very, very differently. God dammit. edit: Dexo posted:lmao only up to one year/1 million yen(~9k usd) for child porn That's per-charge, evidently. From reports, he could easily be facing multiple charges (at the very least, he made multiple transactions) so he'd be going away for years. There's almost certainly going to be public pressure for a significant prison sentence (though since he got roped as a tangent to a different investigation, it's possible he might get a plea deal if he can provide testimony to collar a distributor). SpaceDrake fucked around with this message at 14:13 on Nov 21, 2017 |
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Ahhh loving Christ. This really bummed my day, that dude was an idol of mine.
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When I saw like 20 new posts I was expecting the new chapter lmfao this blows what a scumbag
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well, at least he didn't insert his pedophilia into his work.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:well, at least he didn't insert his pedophilia into his work. word to Aoshi
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:well, at least he didn't insert his pedophilia into his work. Kaoru is like twelve years younger than Kenshin. 
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VJeff posted:Dude. Watsuki was like, an inspiration to me when I was younger. Reading Rurouni Kenshin and all the notes he put in about the process of getting it created and published made me wanna create stuff too. I loving love RuroKen and Buso Renkin so much, and I thought the author was like, this incredible creator for making both of those and for being a teacher to Oda and Takei. they either die early and devastate you(steve irwin) or have horrific secrets that ruin them forever(everyone in 2017 it seems)
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Steve Irwin died a loving hero, and his kids and wife kick rear end. Godspeed, you crazy aussie.
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There's about a million mangaka I'd have expected for this to happen too before the guy who drew no titties and instead delivered just nice, wholesome violence and traced Venom. Perhaps it was the lack of titty that should have tipped us off... (this fuckin sucks, enjoy prison you Jeffery Jones pos)
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VJeff posted:Kaoru is like twelve years younger than Kenshin. Even with what we now know, I don't think Kaoru and Kenshin's relationship comes off as too grody; there is an age gap, but the whole manga is unambiguous about presenting Kaoru as an adult (she owns and operates her own business, she teaches others, she's supposed to be a top-class kendoka and only ends up in peril a lot because the series is populated by freaks of nature (also the demands of ~plot~), and her affection for Kenshin develops fairly naturally over the course of the narrative and she has agency in the relationship). The age gap was certainly always a little eyebrow-raising, but part of the reason the manga was so successful was because of the relatively realistic, adult relationship between its protagonists (inasmuch as Jump's editors sometimes wanted more shonen action and less romance). Like Dexo pointed out, it's really Misao and Aoshi where things take a turn for the , since RK can't shut up about how childish Misao is, says she looks like a 12 year old at one point, she practically throws herself at Aoshi (and has loved him since she was explicitly a little girl), and so on. That's the one where we're left to wonder if she exists primarily to express Watsuki's desires and her whole character comes across differently in light of what we now know.The situation's hosed, either way, but Kaoru & Kenshin are still okay-ish, I think (in as much as one is able to separate RK from the overall taint of what Watsuki did). I wouldn't blame people for still being a bit skeeved out by it in light of what's now known, though. Captain Invictus posted:never have heroes I've been hearing this advice recently, but I think it's unrealistic; human beings, by nature, seek out others to emulate. Having no heroes at all would make for a miserable existence. (granted, welcome to 2017, all our heroes are dead or fallen and our enemies are in power) SpaceDrake fucked around with this message at 18:14 on Nov 21, 2017 |
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Watsuki was one of my inspirations to go into a creative field and Ruroken is the only manga I own a complete collection of. It was always a treat to pick up one of them and read a story with adult characters that didn't exploit women for titillation and had such a good mix of action, humor and drama. I'm not sure I can go back and enjoy them as I once did. Nor will I be able to recommend the series with a clear conscience either. gently caress. I'm going to sit in this corner here and be depressed for a while.
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