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chapter 7 is very short, chapter 8 is huge, chapter 9 is regular chapter length but in a whole new area.
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Zaggitz posted:chapter 7 is very short, chapter 8 is huge, chapter 9 is regular chapter length but in a whole new area. Ah cool that's good to know. I don't get a lot of free time these days to play in long sessions, so I should plan a day or two to play through chapter 8.
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Nov 21, 2017 02:38
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I guess I could use some advice for the first Zwei. Most of my troubles appear to be with just dealing with the UI, but I also wandered around in general and couldn't immediately figure out what to do and/or what I should be focusing on to progress. I guess it's a Odin Sphere system where you level up by eating food? Anyway I just got my cat/pet so I'm still super early on.
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Nov 21, 2017 02:54
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First make sure you bought the shove glove at the item store in town, you need it to push big weights around (don't just leave it equipped, it tanks your stats, also only the boy can push heavy things). After that you've got 3 places you can go: the garden, the forest, and the cave. There's a 4th location, the volcano, but you can't do anything there yet. Each location starts with a hub that has a lot of doors or door-like objects that you can't get through, and one or two that you can. Basically you just go down the paths that are open to you until you find something that opens up paths elsewhere, that's the entire game. It can be hard to remember all of them so it's not a bad idea to just write down what all of the locked doors are in every hub. Generally go in ascending level order when you can, it's a Falcom game so it matters (so save the first cave until you've gotten a level or two). Your first destination of actual note is down the lvl 3 path in the forest (stand on the switch for a second to open it), but don't forget to visit the other places too, there's valuable stuff in them. Wrt food, chow down when you need heals but the most efficient use is saving up 10 of a kind and then trading them for a higher tier food at the bar in town and then eating that. BTW don't just sell any random junk you pick up, everything has a use eventually. lets hang out fucked around with this message at 03:18 on Nov 21, 2017 |
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Nov 21, 2017 03:06
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Pegnose Pete posted:Ah cool that's good to know. I don't get a lot of free time these days to play in long sessions, so I should plan a day or two to play through chapter 8. I dunno if you are using a guide for the game, but consider popping one out for chapter 8 because you get all of Liberl to get around to do a buttload of sidequests and side events. Also it's wise to just stick cloak on yourself for that whole chapter since none of the old areas got stronger random monsters so you won't get any real exp
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Nov 21, 2017 03:24
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Zaggitz posted:I dunno if you are using a guide for the game, but consider popping one out for chapter 8 because you get all of Liberl to get around to do a buttload of sidequests and side events. Also it's wise to just stick cloak on yourself for that whole chapter since none of the old areas got stronger random monsters so you won't get any real exp I've been using a quartz guide just to min/max spells and such, and I will look up a sidequest or two if it's obscure like the Blueblanc stuff. I generally avoid combat unless I'm looking for items or quartz, and then just kill a few poms in the towers in each area. Death scream has made that way easier.
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Nov 21, 2017 04:55
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I think I ended up killing like six Shining Poms one chapter with Wild Cry 2: Cry Harder abuse, it’s so silly how much easier they are to kill.
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Nov 21, 2017 06:07
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One thing to note for Chapter 8 is that Grancel has a new shop. This new shop is good and you should make sure that you spend all your money at that shop before you deliver the last unit, since after that you'll be railroaded into the chapter finale and won't be able to return to the shop. I think there's also a way to abuse that shop, but I forget the specifics.
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Nov 21, 2017 09:44
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The thing I recall about that shop is that it's hilariously expensive to the point where grinding shining poms may be a more efficient way to get sepith.
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Nov 21, 2017 10:34
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The best new Chapter 8 sales are all in Bose.
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lets hang out posted:First make sure you bought the shove glove at the item store in town, you need it to push big weights around (don't just leave it equipped, it tanks your stats, also only the boy can push heavy things). After that you've got 3 places you can go: the garden, the forest, and the cave. There's a 4th location, the volcano, but you can't do anything there yet. Each location starts with a hub that has a lot of doors or door-like objects that you can't get through, and one or two that you can. Basically you just go down the paths that are open to you until you find something that opens up paths elsewhere, that's the entire game. It can be hard to remember all of them so it's not a bad idea to just write down what all of the locked doors are in every hub. Generally go in ascending level order when you can, it's a Falcom game so it matters (so save the first cave until you've gotten a level or two).
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Nov 21, 2017 14:29
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If it's anything like Zwei II, or Ys Origin and Felghana, then 1 stat point can make a huge difference.
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Nov 21, 2017 14:34
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A single point does matter, if you equip them you'll see that they actually have a greater effect than that on your stats, but I wouldn't bother with anything that reduces stats or makes you weak to an element so that leaves like 3 things worth buying at the store. The best equipment in the game is only +2 to multiple stats.
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Nov 21, 2017 15:47
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The only things in the store that aren't weak to something and don't decrease something else is the Power Stone (+1 Attack) and Haramaki (+2 Luck), if that's what you're referring to. E: The Power Stone made my attacks go from dealing 1-2 damage to 15+ so its value is self-evident, at least. Nate RFB fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Nov 21, 2017 |
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Nov 21, 2017 21:55
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Just finished Sen 3. What the gently caress? You can't do that! edit: I'm all too aware of the cliffhanger being an integral part of the series but in the past they've generally done it once someone has at least finished talking rather than just going BANG credits. That last screen felt like a bit of a taunt too! "See you with your money in a year," basically. uiruki fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Nov 22, 2017 |
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Nov 22, 2017 17:27
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This showed up on my twitter TL just now: https://twitter.com/XSEEDGames/status/933472008389533696
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Nov 23, 2017 00:14
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Alright, restarted SC since I was only 2 hours into it. Really should have grinded more in the final dungeon of FC, my poor Estelle is only 37. Ah well, I'll sit down and catch up. Man I forgot the gut punch the game throws right at the start.
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BrightWing posted:Alright, restarted SC since I was only 2 hours into it. Really should have grinded more in the final dungeon of FC, my poor Estelle is only 37. Ah well, I'll sit down and catch up. Man I forgot the gut punch the game throws right at the start. It's tough. I had to give up on Hard, my first playthrough because I was just hitting wall after wall. -- I'm really glad, having found this thread, that Olivier is pretty much universally loved. He was my favorite character right of the bat, when, after being introduced as something of a joke, he effortlessly diffuses the argument between a veteran bracer and an army general that's spiralling out of control. I've only played the first of the Cold Steel games, but I kept hoping that Olivier would run into a battle when you're about to wipe, and - "My love, I give to thee" heal my party - a la Mickey in Kingdom Hearts 2. But what're you gonna do.
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Nov 23, 2017 06:43
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BrightWing posted:This showed up on my twitter TL just now: Thanks Trails of Queen Brittney-sama, Goddess of Alcohol and Sean Chiplock.
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Nov 23, 2017 08:43
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Captain Lavender posted:I've only played the first of the Cold Steel games, but I kept hoping that Olivier would run into a battle when you're about to wipe, and - "My love, I give to thee" heal my party - a la Mickey in Kingdom Hearts 2. But what're you gonna do. You'll like the next two games. 
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Nov 23, 2017 13:51
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Zaggitz posted:You'll like the next two games.  Can't wait.Srs, I didn't expect to find my favorite JRPG series so long after SNES and Playstation era. Thought I was done with the genre pretty much.
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Nov 23, 2017 14:22
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I found Olivier way more annoying in Sky than Steel.
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Nov 23, 2017 17:25
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Olivier is great, I brought him and Kloe to the final boss with me in FC
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Nov 23, 2017 18:32
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Justin_Brett posted:I found Olivier way more annoying in Sky than Steel. I found him hilarious, though I suspect I'd also find him extremely aggravating to be around if I had to hang out with him like that in real life. The difference makes sense though. In Liberl, he could afford acting like a gadfly all the time, which was also his way of deflecting suspicion and prying questions. In Steel, he had an agenda and a purpose that hinged on him acting like a responsible adult. They're two extremely different situations.
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Nov 23, 2017 19:05
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Tokyo Xanadu ex has a release date, December 8th: https://gematsu.com/2017/11/tokyo-xanadu-ex-pc-launches-december-8quote:About
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Nov 23, 2017 19:48
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On this blessed day, I am thankful for this image.
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Nov 23, 2017 20:47
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Thanks, Terper. Back from the holidays, back in Zwei 1, still kind of confused. I just got (Lv. 5) to the Sylph village and have gotten the first idol and hookshot thing, and now am seemingly gated by being too low level on the rest of my paths. I have some sort of flower offering item but I don't know where to use it yet; I thought I might be able to drop it into the pond in the spoiler but to no avail. Am I just stuck on a loop of running through my paths for a couple of hours until I'm a high enough level to proceed? Nate RFB fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Nov 24, 2017 |
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Nov 24, 2017 23:02
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flower offerings are for unlocking a secret dungeon
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Nov 24, 2017 23:30
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So, pretty much just run the forest, level up where I can, and eventually make my way to the level 8 path on the forest 3->8 path?
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Nov 25, 2017 00:20
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SC feels like it's slightly too long But at the same time I can't think of a single moment I'd want to take away from it Maybe I'm just not ready to be a
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Nov 25, 2017 01:59
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Billzasilver posted:SC feels like it's slightly too long Could probably shave a floor off of the other space areas of each tower in chapter 7. Maybe. Not much else I can think of off the top of my head.
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Nov 25, 2017 02:14
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Finally beat Trails SC. That was really enjoyable and Estelle is the best.
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Nov 25, 2017 09:46
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The 3rd's even better.
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Really Pants posted:The 3rd's even better. Started it right after finishing SC. That was like a James Bond opening.
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Nov 25, 2017 16:49
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So seriously are you expected to tackle doors in Zwei 1 at a lower level than it says? It's taken 6 hours to get to level 7, even with using food I've gotten from the bar by exchanging 10 copies. The next door I'm shooting for is level 8 and I can already tell that's going to take a couple of hours more. Either I'm missing something obvious in some of the other locations or I'm grabbing the wrong food. Maybe for example the level 2 path in the cave would be better than the level 5 path in the forest I'm currently grinding? There was another level 5 path in the garden that was blocked off by a water key lock, assuming that's something I was supposed to pick up at this juncture.
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what areas have you visited, have you gone to the garden area yet there should always be a door corresponding to your level where you can progress a bit further e; never mind i skipped over part of your post, the problem is there are so many places to go in zwei it's kind of hard to name a specific one without knowing your level and everything because the game doesn't have any kind of map, grinding just shouldn't be necessary because progressing should always be opening up new paths. have you gone to the volcano? The Colonel fucked around with this message at 17:44 on Nov 25, 2017 |
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I have not been to the volcano yet because I thought that didn't open up until much later. I have found: Forest: 0-Dead End 3-4-Boss 3-5-Sylph Village 3-8-? 10-? 33-? Garden: 1-5-Water Key Lock 1-11-? 1-12-? 13-? 31-? Cave: 2-Dead End 9-? 20-? 28-? Anything that is below my level (currently 7) I have not attempted/beaten. E: Yeah I can't do anything in the volcano yet, there are doors at level 4 and 6 but it's blocked by magic barriers that I presumably need water magic or something for. Nate RFB fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Nov 25, 2017 |
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Nov 25, 2017 18:06
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I'll just drop this here cuz it's funny
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you get water magic in the garden, so i'm gonna say you probably missed something in there
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The Colonel posted:you get water magic in the garden, so i'm gonna say you probably missed something in there
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