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The real problem is, if I understand it, that there's an issue with ISPs having a monopoly in certain areas? In the UK, I think what would happen is the one ISP to say "yeah, we're not doing that" would clean up, but that can only work if you have something approaching an open market.
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Nov 21, 2017 22:18
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Except that looks like it's specifically a mobile data plan? In Portugal?
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InitialDave posted:Except that looks like it's specifically a mobile data plan? In Portugal? Yes and yes, but they have no Net Neutrality laws and they’re spinning it up to be that way across everything
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Yeah, they're going to charge you for every type of data, or at least "prioritize" their partner's data over everything else. This is what happens when you put a shill for the cable companies in the top seat at the FCC. Even if they don't *all* do it, I have exactly two options for ISP where I live. What are the odds?
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I'm concerned about what this is going to do to data transit costs. ISPs up here in Canada could get massively hosed if the exchanges in the US start charging premiums on certain traffic. Ugh.
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Kazinsal posted:The proper use of cheese curds is on top of fries and covered in a dark turkey or veal gravy and I will not hear otherwise There's a sandwich joint up here that puts poutine on one of their offerings. I believe it's the "Strange Brew".
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Olympic Mathlete posted:Everytime someone over here mentions 5 Guys, the following words appear either preceding the name or following it: "it's so expensive" Orrrr you can go to Spoons/Flame and Grill/Hungry Horse and get a nice cheap burger and a pint.
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Maybe making the bread and circuses more expensive will be the final straw that gets Americans to pay attention to the poo poo that's being shoveled our way. I doubt it. I'm frankly astounded at how much unlubricated non-consensual butt-loving we've taken so far.
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Just in case you hoped the states would help: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/fcc-will-also-order-states-to-scrap-plans-for-their-own-net-neutrality-laws/ This motherfucker is a piece of work.
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Got home from work a little after 7am. Did a blitz-cleaning until around 9am when my hydro got disconnected. Old and crusted*:  New hotness:  *Not busted, fuseboxes are fine, mine was just undersized for 21st century living and had a bunch of double-taps. E: Ignore the lack of labelling, the electrician is making up a schedule for the new panel and dropping it off tomorrow. Fermented Tinal fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Nov 21, 2017 |
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Darchangel posted:Maybe making the bread and circuses more expensive will be the final straw that gets Americans to pay attention to the poo poo that's being shoveled our way. I'd like this to be the case, but 90% of the population is just gonna hear about how this is removing BIG GUMMIMENT REGULATIONS from the internet, so it's a good thing in their eyes.
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ExplodingSims posted:I'd like this to be the case, but 90% of the population is just gonna hear about how this is removing BIG GUMMIMENT REGULATIONS from the internet, so it's a good thing in their eyes. This is 90% of the comments on my local news facebook, and I think the chair of the fcc worded it very carefully to confuse those types. I just hope it doesn’t hurt my small rural co op isp.
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You should ask them how much they like road tolls when traveling out of state.
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rdb posted:This is 90% of the comments on my local news facebook, and I think the chair of the fcc worded it very carefully to confuse those types. I just hope it doesn’t hurt my small rural co op isp. Yeah, I saw where he was talking about "removing government micromanagement" and freeing up the telecoms to try new service models, and encourage them to expand and build out, as if these were things that were totally not happening under the current rules. angryrobots posted:You should ask them how much they like road tolls when traveling out of state. This is a good analogy. We're experiencing that first hand right here in Dallas-Fort Worth, where literally every "improvement" of any highway is now involving toll lanes, and any new highways are outright tollways.
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Darchangel posted:Just in case you hoped the states would help: b-b-b-b-b-b-ut her emails! another sterling accomplishment by president shitlord, who will deregulate everything he can to the detriment of every single person in this country
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Metal Geir Skogul posted:This motherFUCKER wut?!?!?!
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But guys have you tried... the power of positive thinking
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why the gently caress is it so hard to find cavatappi pasta or large elbow macaroni? what kind of terrible hosed up mac and cheese is the rest of America putting up with?
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Seminal Flu posted:wut?!?!?! Ajit at the FCC
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:why the gently caress is it so hard to find cavatappi pasta or large elbow macaroni? I...actually had this conversation with someone last week. Cavatappi is almost impossible to find. I found some at Whole Foods and at a local international market.
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Previa_fun posted:But guys have you tried... Thoughts and prayers for our internet connections
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InitialDave posted:The real problem is, if I understand it, that there's an issue with ISPs having a monopoly in certain areas? In the UK, I think what would happen is the one ISP to say "yeah, we're not doing that" would clean up, but that can only work if you have something approaching an open market. Yeah, you see the thing is that the ISPS own most of the copper and fiber. Thanks to our addiction to graft, we didn't build that poo poo out as a utility, just gave subsidies to telecoms to do it. So outside of places with strong competition, most of the US is straight hosed because 1 or at most 2 companies can even provide broadband to them without needing to build a whole parallel infrastructure first.
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angryrobots posted:You should ask them how much they like road tolls when traveling out of state. That's an odd analogy. Not sure who you are arguing for. I mean a toll is a toll which goes to the owner of the private roadway. No matter where you are from if you are using their road you have to pay. Makes sense. I'm for net neutrality by the way. e: nm. You mean a toll on public roads when travelling interstate because the driver is using the infrastructure of another state. I've been in the sun too long today sorry. General_Failure fucked around with this message at 03:17 on Nov 22, 2017 |
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General_Failure posted:That's an odd analogy. Not sure who you are arguing for. I mean a toll is a toll which goes to the owner of the private roadway. No matter where you are from if you are using their road you have to pay. Makes sense. gently caress toll roads. Our taxes are supposed to be funding the Interstate system, but the funds were turned into a slush fund by Congress and many state legislative groups. None of them are 'private roadways' they are public roads.
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General_Failure posted:That's an odd analogy. Not sure who you are arguing for. I mean a toll is a toll which goes to the owner of the private roadway. No matter where you are from if you are using their road you have to pay. Makes sense. See the post above yours. The infrastructure was paid for with public funds but someone sets up a toll booth so you pay extra to use it. The new bridge in Louisville KY I use on occasion for example. It irks me because this is a clear handout to a few corporations at the expense of millions of people, yet so many are blinded by right wing propaganda that they don’t see it that way. People will now either be bombarded with injected advertising, have speeds capped to certain sites, or charged extra to access things that used to be treated equally. AT&T has already shown bias towards directv now by having it not count towards your data cap. They can go a step further now and slow down netflix, hulu and youtube or charge extra for those sites to work at all. It will wind up being like Chinese internet, except censored by private companies with no VPN work around.
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:why the gently caress is it so hard to find cavatappi pasta or large elbow macaroni? If any supermarkets near you carry DeCecco pasta they'll probably have cavatappi, it's my go-to since it holds sauce nicely.
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Anyone ever sell anything on Facebook marketplace? What is it that makes people respond to something you've posted for sale that flatly says "I am interested in this item"? It feels like bots but it happens often enough that it sorta feels like an app or something that auto-conversates with you when someone hits a button in an app somewhere.
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KakerMix posted:Anyone ever sell anything on Facebook marketplace? That's an automated part of the marketplace.
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General_Failure posted:That's an odd analogy. Not sure who you are arguing for. I mean a toll is a toll which goes to the owner of the private roadway. No matter where you are from if you are using their road you have to pay. Makes sense. all roads should be owned by the state, not by individuals or corporations so should all means of production
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:so should all means of production Now THAT is politics. And I can sum up any argument that follows by saying "most theoretical forms of government are viable only in theory. In actuality, the ideal gets all hosed up by corruption and greed and ultimately results in revolution." Also keep in mind that the longest-lived modern government is a constitutionally-backed monarchy.
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No, Mein Fuhrer. I'm from Arizona.
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Seminal Flu posted:the ideal gets all hosed up by corruption and greed and ultimately results in revolution." That's it. Greedy people wreck things for everyone. Anyone remember that lube ad with the elephant and the ant? I just discovered silicon spray is like that for heater hoses. I'm cobbling together something to let me them the goddamn heater off completely in my car.
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That you see people as inherently greedy and self-serving is merely a reflection of the society that we live in
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Having been here on this planet for a while now and doing some thinking, it's pretty hard to see people as anything but. I would strongly imagine cavemen thought to themselves "If only Thog wasn't such a greedy oval office fuckface, we could all have some mammoth steak but no, he's got to let half of it rot simply because his dad managed to steal a bigger club from the dinosaurs than the rest of our dads did" so I don't know that anything's going to change because there's always some permawrongist who insists The Habit is better than In & Out and the electoral college caters to people like that
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So remember I asked about Philo the other day? I'm digging it enough that I went ahead and paid for a month I don't do sports, and if I want news, I just watch local news or fire up the CBS News app (free streaming). A major downside at the moment is their only app is for newer Roku devices (their more mature .edu offering has apps for most platforms, it's expected they'll do the same for the retail offering) - my Roku was too old for it. My stepdad, however, bought a Roku 3 a year ago, and promptly threw it in the closet, still sealed in the box. Asked him how much he wanted for it tonight over dinner, he said it was mine if I could find it. Philo app works drat well on the Roku 3, and holy poo poo is an early 2016 Roku 3 a night and day difference from a ~2013 Roku 1. So much smoother and faster. The headphone jack in the remote is nifty too - I'm sitting in the next room listening to stuff playing on the Roku. It's tempting to bring it out to the living room and replace my 1st gen Fire TV Stick (which is loving PAINFULLY SLOW) with it, and leave the Chromecast in the bedroom. But I'm sure the FCC is gonna clamp down on my internet speeds and data caps soon, which will put an end to MAH STREAMING TV.
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We see the world through glasses with lenses we are completely in control of. A lot of people just don't realize it.fridge corn posted:That you see people as inherently greedy and self-serving is merely a reflection of the society that we live in I generally choose to see individuals as inherently good, and they usually live up to it. Adiabatic fucked around with this message at 10:36 on Nov 22, 2017 |
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