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MrLonghair posted:AB, right? You already know the answer in your heart.
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Planes should have an accuracy penalty if they try to shoot pointing up or down, unless they're a "Boom and Zoom" class plane, where their accuracy will be buffed.
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Nov 22, 2017 10:13
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Artless Meat posted:Planes should have an accuracy penalty if they try to shoot pointing up or down, unless they're a "Boom and Zoom" class plane, where their accuracy will be buffed. Thanks for reminding me that World of Warplanes is a thing that we can mock.
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Nov 22, 2017 12:01
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Wait, what? Is that a real thing in that game?
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Nov 22, 2017 12:04
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Artless Meat posted:Planes should have an accuracy penalty if they try to shoot pointing up or down, unless they're a "Boom and Zoom" class plane, where their accuracy will be buffed. I was planning to check WoWP 2.0 (it's never bad to see how the competition does things) but yeah, thanks for reminding me not to bother.
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Nov 22, 2017 12:06
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Alkydere posted:Wait, what? Is that a real thing in that game? Yup, and that's literally the most innovative thing about what is otherwise 'World of Tanks but now the tanks have wings'.
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Nov 22, 2017 12:43
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Nickiepoo posted:Yup, and that's literally the most innovative thing about what is otherwise 'World of Tanks but now the tanks have wings'. What does that even simulate or anything? And as someone who isn't that great at planes in the first place, all I've seen of WoP has everything moving surprisingly slow and more like some sort of plane-shaped balloon than what WT has gotten me used to. And it's just bags of HP against each other instead of component damage. So, blech.
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Alkydere posted:What does that even simulate or anything? Yeah, for all I cry about fires not doing anything anymore or certain cannons only ever sparking, the idea of having to shoot until the HP run out is horrifying. All the WoT gameplay I've seen just looks silly.
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It was good for what it was back in the day. I put like 10k games into WoT and was doing top tier clan battle poo poo when it’s only competition was like BF2 mods, but it really doesn’t compare well to War Thunder CARB/Sim at all if you actually want a tank game and not just a HP based third person shooter type game. Honestly though I will say it makes about as much or more sense mechanically than WT AB tanks, in its own way. The spotting and aiming mechanics are goofy but do the job they’re meant to. AB tanks doesn’t really do anything well past like BR 2.3. The mechanics make sense and everything works to an extent but once you stop playing you really see just how lovely of a game it is, especially if you want something closer to a tank sim than Halo. Mazz fucked around with this message at 14:24 on Nov 22, 2017 |
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Nov 22, 2017 14:21
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Alkydere posted:What does that even simulate or anything? It's meant to encourage players to gain an alt advantage over other players and they have to mechanically encourage that because there's literally nothing in the game that would do that naturally like it would in any other flight game ever. Mazz posted:It was good for what it was back in the day. We're talking about World of Warplanes specifically (EDIT: Except that one guy you were replying to, right). World of Tanks fully works nicely until you stick propellers on the tanks and try to call it a new game. As an added lol I just checked the WoWP tech tree and the P-47 isn't even on it even though that's the closest thing you could call a tank with a propeller.
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WoWP may be bad but its techtree just taught me that this  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vought_XF5U wikipedia posted:The only completed XF5U-1 proved to be so structurally solid that it had to be destroyed with a wrecking ball.  E: ^^^^^^ P-47s are in under multirole fighters. GrossMurpel fucked around with this message at 15:58 on Nov 22, 2017 |
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Nickiepoo posted:We're talking about World of Warplanes specifically (EDIT: Except that one guy you were replying to, right). World of Tanks fully works nicely until you stick propellers on the tanks and try to call it a new game. I remember getting into the WoP Beta way back at its introduction and after like 2-3 hours it just feeling awful from top to bottom. I honestly thought they killed it off for like several years. GrossMurpel posted:WoWP may be bad but its techtree just taught me that this Someone didn’t play Secret Weapons over Normandy.
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Nickiepoo posted:As an added lol I just checked the WoWP tech tree and the P-47 isn't even on it even though that's the closest thing you could call a tank with a propeller. That's a strange way to spell IL-2. That one was nicknamed Betonflugzeug (concrete plane) by the germans for a reason.
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Das Butterbrot posted:That's a strange way to spell IL-2. That one was nicknamed Betonflugzeug (concrete plane) by the germans for a reason. Okay this is true and fair. Good point.
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Das Butterbrot posted:That's a strange way to spell IL-2. That one was nicknamed Betonflugzeug (concrete plane) by the germans for a reason. Until it takes 1 bullet in the tail and loses all elevator and rudder control, first time, every time.
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Nov 22, 2017 20:33
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Mazz posted:Someone didn’t play Secret Weapons over Normandy. God, I want a Flying Flapjack in WT so badly. That would get me to play the everloving poo poo out of Planes for hours.
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Nov 22, 2017 21:34
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It'd be a limited-availability snowflake plane gated behind two weeks of solid grinding and you know it.
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lmfao this guy talking about ball ammunition: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QAFN0Gz0Mc&t=116s
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Thief posted:lmfao this guy talking about ball ammunition: He didn't have enough RP yet for belts.
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Nov 23, 2017 02:37
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I want war thunder to get retarded like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qxpKsaqAh8
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Nov 23, 2017 05:34
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Are we just going to ignore that guys name being Goatse?
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Nov 23, 2017 12:38
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Why does the Potez 633 sound like it's powered by two idling lawnmowers?
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FaustianQ posted:Why does the Potez 633 sound like it's powered by two idling lawnmowers? French intelligence agents demand to know where you got the plans to the Potez 633!
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Nov 23, 2017 16:00
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I really like the potez 633, the 2x200kg loadout is good for hard targets and the single 7.5 is surprisingly effective against light ground units. Also it’s just plain fun to fly.
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Nov 23, 2017 16:15
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The Potez 633 is a worse ground attacker than the air defense Potez 631.
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mlmp08 posted:The Potez 633 is a worse ground attacker than the air defense Potez 631. For real, the AP rounds on the Hispanos can kill AI light tanks from the rear with only a short burst.
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The Me410 B6 with the 2 Mk103s is basically an A-10 in all but name. Get any semblance of clear skies and just make everything burn. Unlike the 229 they didn’t touch the HVAP belts. You have to attack from above and the flanks but if you do you can pen drat near everything you strafe, all the way up to Chieftain 10s. Honestly as much fun to me as the old US lineup.
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I heard the me410 had just enough power to execute a tight 3km radius turn without dropping altitude.
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So skygods, tell me about how to gitgud at the MiG-15Bis. It feels at times that everyone is better at everything than me, but I'm sure it's more to do with me not knowing what I'm doing.
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that's normal with jets you have to train your predictive eye to know when your opponent is cutting speed because scissoring plays a massive role in gun based jet combat otherwise,  try to be especially aggressive at first with the Russian jets then reload ASAP otherwise the allies will beat you in an endurance battle. the sooner you engage and reload the sooner it offsets their entire pacing. accuracy is also incredibly important in Migs because you don't get to rely on spray and pray as easily as something like a Sabre. base gampley wise think of mig15/17s as energy fighters and always try to attack from above
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Xerxes17 posted:So skygods, tell me about how to gitgud at the MiG-15Bis. It feels at times that everyone is better at everything than me, but I'm sure it's more to do with me not knowing what I'm doing. All the allied jets are more maneuverable than you and better on the deck. They also have a lot more ammo than you. This means that you do not have as much endurance in a protracted fight as an allied jet. You are faster (except maybe in the case of the Hunter) and better at high altitudes. So Sabre pilots especially will try to drag you down to the deck. So you will be best at *strictly* booming and zooming, that is, diving on someone, firing one burst with minimal corrections, extending away and then climbing back up. You must always retain your momentum. If you play their game at all and start scissoring or turning they will wreck your face.
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Being part of a half dozen Mustangs in formation is a thing of beauty. WE pretty much massacred the japanese over Saipan forcing everyone to the deck and then did the same thing to the germans over Berlin.
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So, working on the French tree...what are the advantages/disadvantages to the early planes? Besides the early bomber looking like some adorable puppy with giant ears for wings.
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Their main strength is that they have very early access to 20mm Hispanos mounted through the prop hub.
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Alkydere posted:So, working on the French tree...what are the advantages/disadvantages to the early planes? Besides the early bomber looking like some adorable puppy with giant ears for wings. Disadvantages - Slow Poorly armored Very limited ammo Advantages - Cannons on everything!
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:Their main strength is that they have very early access to 20mm Hispanos mounted through the prop hub. NickBlasta posted:Disadvantages - I will admit I have noticed people will head-on a D.501 and not realize I'm shooting stealth rounds from my centerline hispano until I peel off and they start exploding. You also forgot Style on the advantages list Nick. These sky-tanks at least look sexy.
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Alkydere posted:I will admit I have noticed people will head-on a D.501 and not realize I'm shooting stealth rounds from my centerline hispano until I peel off and they start exploding. I love stealth rounds on center-mounted cannons, gets 'em every time.
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McSpanky posted:I love stealth rounds on center-mounted cannons, gets 'em every time. I've noticed the second bomber, the N.C.223.3, has hispanios on its rear-facing turrets as well which tend to shred anyone on your tail. Taking that sucker out I end up with 1-2 plane kills more often than not.
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I had a 200% and 300% RP booster and I used them like a schmuck and both times it was miserable garbage rounds with poo poo teams and they were wasted. Its what I get for not just letting them expire.
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