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The_Rob posted:Yeah man I'm really missing out on those grand artistic statements of the marvel movies. Not everyone cares about grand artistic statements when they are deciding which movie they want to watch.
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MisterBibs posted:- Kvetching about capitalism is stupid. I get it, there's problems with it, but you're only reminding me of that episode of TNG where Q's suggestion to fix a problem is some outlandish thing that the Enterprise can't do*. spoken like a frightened old
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Nov 23, 2017 15:14
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Loud and fun is just as good as quiet and thoughtful. This applies to movies as well as people.
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I get seeing superhero movies with a group of friends, but I can't imagine wanting to buy and watch them again later. The first run through is "shut off your brain and watch these SFX," so I'm not sure where the fun would be repeating that, especially by yourself. Which is probably why I failed to make it through Guardians twice. I can enjoy the gently caress out of something as stupid as Zoolander, though. Multiple times. 
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Nov 23, 2017 19:36
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Randaconda posted:Lol Goscinny was loving trash. Comparing him to Alan Moore, probably the best comics writer ever. He's literally incapable of telling a story in comic form. He's not even a comics writer.
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Nov 23, 2017 19:41
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superhero movies are absolutely soul crushing
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Das Boo posted:I get seeing superhero movies with a group of friends, but I can't imagine wanting to buy and watch them again later. The first run through is "shut off your brain and watch these SFX," so I'm not sure where the fun would be repeating that, especially by yourself. Which is probably why I failed to make it through Guardians twice. Have you tried turning your brain on?
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sassassin posted:Have you tried turning your brain on? But if I do that, I won't like superhero movies at all!
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Nov 23, 2017 22:18
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The marvel movies seriously suck, even just as action movies/sfx and I genuinely don't get why people are still so invested in them. The sfx and the action and the plots and everything are just so loving paint-by-numbers.
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Nov 23, 2017 22:44
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People who don't like superhero movies are usually losers who think it's okay to have anxiety. Lol.
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Nov 23, 2017 23:34
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yeah I eat rear end posted:Not everyone cares about grand artistic statements when they are deciding which movie they want to watch. Saying people are missing out on superhero movies implies that there is something more to them. I understand the social aspect of it I guess but nothing is gained from them after the movie. There are no real discussions to be had about the movie. What exactly are people missing out on by not seeing the new marvel movie?
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Nov 24, 2017 00:29
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Das Boo posted:But if I do that, I won't like superhero movies at all! And perhaps you'll enjoy figuring out why.
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Nov 24, 2017 01:21
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Quad posted:Unpopular Actor Opinions: I don't hate him nearly as much as you seem to but I'm at least sort of inclined to agree. I saw him on a book tour recently that a friend dragged me to, and for something (he paid) that cost $70 to attend it was amazingly half assed. The whole thing seemed barely planned out and he was visibly drunk and just winging super corny jokes for an hour. He seems like he is just coasting through life on his nerd cred . I've never found him particularly noteworthy but I also don't think he is bad either. He's just kind of there. I got an autographed copy of his book I will never read with it. I wonder if I should stick that on SA mart. it's been sitting in the back seat of my car for 2 months.
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Nov 24, 2017 01:24
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Aramek posted:People who don't like superhero movies are usually losers who think it's okay to have anxiety. What about people who don't like the Marvel movies but I do like Batman & Robin?
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Nov 24, 2017 03:36
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The Punisher with Tom Jane was pretty good. Also the new Punisher on Netflix. Deadpool was OK too. Basically comic book movies can be good if there's enough people getting shot in the face.
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Aramek posted:People who don't like superhero movies are usually losers who think it's okay to have anxiety. So are you saying people with anxiety issues are bad or? Like, that's such a weird loving way to end your statement
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:The marvel movies seriously suck, even just as action movies/sfx and I genuinely don't get why people are still so invested in them. The sfx and the action and the plots and everything are just so loving paint-by-numbers. Out of the superhero movies I like probably half of all the Batman movies, Captain America Winter Soldier, Doctor Strange, and both Guardians of the Galaxy movies. That’s about it so I don’t know which boxes that ticks off but probably cool action with comedy
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Saagonsa posted:So are you saying people with anxiety issues are bad or? He's probably talking about the vocal minority who constantly bring their self-diagnosed "anxiety" to get out of doing anything new or that requires effort. And, quite frequently in my country, claim to have it in court to justify their criminal actions.
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I don't get what superhero movies have to do with anxiety tbh.
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I'm not sure what the confusion is about how people can enjoy them. People say they are "paint by numbers" and derivative, but that doesn't mean they are bad. If they paint by numbers well and stay in the lines, it will still be a passable painting. There's not much creative about things like marvel movies but that's not what they are trying to do so it's silly to try and critique it like some art film. Nobody is saying you have to like them or are wrong for doing so, but the reasons why other people like them are clear and obvious even if you don't agree with them.
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yeah I eat rear end posted:the reasons why other people like them are clear and obvious Whether or not they're painting by the numbers, the picture they're painting just isn't worth looking at. They're not good stories, they don't have good characters, they're not exciting, they're not funny. I can't even tell what they're trying to be, honestly. I can see why children would like them, because it honestly doesn't take much to entertain a child, but no, it's not obvious why adults like these movies.
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There's a distinction you are failing to understand. You don't have to agree with what they find funny and exciting to understand that they do due to simpler tastes, or just liking the dumb comic book backstories. I mean, a lot of people like the comic books they are bsaed on (and in general) despite being boring and unfunny to me personally, but I get why some people like them.
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yeah I eat rear end posted:There's a distinction you are failing to understand. You don't have to agree with what they find funny and exciting to understand that they do due to simpler tastes, or just liking the dumb comic book backstories. I mean, a lot of people like the comic books they are bsaed on (and in general) despite being boring and unfunny to me personally, but I get why some people like them. There's a distinction you're failing to understand between understanding that people like something and understanding why people like something. I understand that people like the Marvel movies and that people find them funny and exciting. I don't understand why any of those things. If you say you like something because it's funny that doesn't actually help anyone to understand why you like it. You've just told us what genre it is, not what makes it funny. And as well as being pretty reductive and patronising to say that the people who like something you don't have "simpler tastes" it also doesn't go any way toward explaining why they like it.
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There is no objective reason, the answer will vary from person to person as to why they find a certain thing funny/exciting/interesting. It'd be like someone who doesn't like chicken asking a chicken liker why they like it. I don't know what kind of answer you'd expect from that beyond the admittedly circular answer "I like it because it's good, to me". Plus I wasn't being "patronizing" considering I've posted itt about liking a lot of the marvel movies, I was referring to the bar of quality in entertainment that everyone has. Some have low ones where it doesn't have to be particularly creative or meaningful to be enjoyable, some require it to make them think. Neither is objectively better than the other.
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Why do people like movies in general? Soulless plays in 2D shat out by corporate whores to make the Harvey Weinsteins of the world more money. 
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yeah I eat rear end posted:I'm not sure what the confusion is about how people can enjoy them. People say they are "paint by numbers" and derivative, but that doesn't mean they are bad. If they paint by numbers well and stay in the lines, it will still be a passable painting. There's not much creative about things like marvel movies but that's not what they are trying to do so it's silly to try and critique it like some art film. It's a waste of time to spend hours on something that is barely competent / passable when there are so many things you could do instead that would actually give you something memorable (even if we still speak only about passive entertainment), if you only managed to escape the consumerist malaise and the self imposed lowest common denominator standard for social interactions that comes with it. Superhero movies are the equivalent of staring at drying paint, no matter how skillfully the paint is applied, you aren't getting anything from returning day after day to continue watching it.
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Me, upon seeing a beautiful flower: Pointless. This doesn't appear to contribute to society, no direct practical application or knowledge to glean from this. The flower will die without leaving a lasting impression in the fields of politics and mathematics; wasteful and inefficient.
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steinrokkan posted:It's a waste of time to spend hours on something that is barely competent / passable when there are so many things you could do instead that would actually give you something memorable (even if we still speak only about passive entertainment), if you only managed to escape the consumerist malaise and the self imposed lowest common denominator standard for social interactions that comes with it. Superhero movies are the equivalent of staring at drying paint, no matter how skillfully the paint is applied, you aren't getting anything from returning day after day to continue watching it. I also watch lots of movies with talking puppies in them, you're talking to the wrong guy if you think i value my time or expect to "get things" from all the movies i watch.
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I'm all for artless shlock if it's enjoyable but Marvel movies are seriously boring. I'd say it's a small step up from the worst Hollywood crap like transformers or Battleship or whatever but barely. I can't even remember which movie was which from the ones I've seen. It's just a bunch of visual noise.
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I’d like to see a comic book movie that isn’t presented like a comic book movie. That’s a maybe unpopular opinion. Actually, there probably are some of these already. But it could be done with mainstream characters too. They don’t have to be stereotypical action-things, do they? That’s just the way they are at the moment.
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Nov 24, 2017 10:55
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You should watch Ghost World and From Hell.
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Excellent. Okay. I’m very open to recommendations.
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lemon-lyme disease posted:Excellent. Okay. I’m very open to recommendations. Don't watch Ghost World, it's bad. From Hell is alright.
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It's mostly just that all of these franchise movies are way more concerned with expanding their brand than telling an interesting story or entertaining an audience.
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Dredd is a good comic book movie. Not an unpopular opinion, i'm just adding to the list.
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yeah I eat rear end posted:There is no objective reason, the answer will vary from person to person as to why they find a certain thing funny/exciting/interesting. It'd be like someone who doesn't like chicken asking a chicken liker why they like it. I don't know what kind of answer you'd expect from that beyond the admittedly circular answer "I like it because it's good, to me". yeah I eat rear end posted:Plus I wasn't being "patronizing" considering I've posted itt about liking a lot of the marvel movies, I was referring to the bar of quality in entertainment that everyone has. Some have low ones where it doesn't have to be particularly creative or meaningful to be enjoyable, some require it to make them think. Neither is objectively better than the other.
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veni veni veni posted:Dredd is a good comic book movie. Dredd was pretty good but I like the Stallone version better overall as a movie, mostly because of the tone. I feel like movies in general lately keep trying to get darker and grittier than the last, particularly with reboots, which I'm not a huge fan of. e: side note - if they ever try to make a dark+gritty version of demolition man I'll be upset.
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veni veni veni posted:Dredd is a good comic book movie. The most unpopular opinion: I liked Stallone's version better. 
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Randaconda posted:The most unpopular opinion: I liked Stallone's version better. Dredd is funnier, but the Stallone one was okay.
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The Stallone one was fine and I'll take it's goofiness any day over the modern "wold builder" approach to comic book movies, but the Karl Urban one was the type of tight, tense story I personally enjoy more.
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