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Infiltration Lens seems like a comedically bad not-Skullclamp. Basically says get a free 1/1 through every turn until I have a fat Champion or Pridemate. Equip a sister, swing, stare directly into my opponents eyes
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Kazu Negri took the most recent modern classic with a throwback (still w/ devoted druid) abzan company deck that's heavy on black cards, including four maindeck tidehollow sculler along with distended mindbenders in the sideboard. Definitely a cool approach to the deck. There was probably some inspiration from all the humans/taxes doing well lately. Disruptive weenies are where it's at right now. EDIT: Also only five one-mana dorks, that's the lowest I've ever seen. uninverted fucked around with this message at 02:09 on Nov 23, 2017 |
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Makes sense, I've been playing around with the Bant Knightfall version and have a lot of games where my best chance at disrupting my opponent is to get lucky off a Collected Company, rather than just jamming the combo as fast as possible. Slowing the deck down slightly in exchange for ensuring you survive long enough to combo off is a good approach, and the Scullers will draw removal away from your combo pieces. It's win-win.
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Nov 24, 2017 20:45
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Hell yeah, someone 5-0'd a Modern MTGO league with my cheap-rear end Goblins deck that I used to play. I should pick the Goblin Guides back up and run it again...
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Nov 29, 2017 06:23
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C-Euro posted:Hell yeah, someone 5-0'd a Modern MTGO league with my cheap-rear end Goblins deck that I used to play. I should pick the Goblin Guides back up and run it again... 8 whack is decent, I used to play a list like that on mtgo.
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What matchups would you want the Kari Zev's expertise in?
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C-Euro posted:Hell yeah, someone 5-0'd a Modern MTGO league with my cheap-rear end Goblins deck that I used to play. I should pick the Goblin Guides back up and run it again...  I'm still running this. I haven't managed to Top 8 anything with it in forever but I've been running modern mono-red goblins for like a decade and I refuse to stop. Mostly because I'm too lazy to build anything else.
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Nov 29, 2017 14:40
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Other than Burn, what beats up on Storm in modern? I'm coming back to modern as larger legacy events have tapered off until next spring, and I've been told there's an absolute glut of storm in the LGS lately.
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Nov 29, 2017 14:56
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Walked posted:Other than Burn, what beats up on Storm in modern? I'm coming back to modern as larger legacy events have tapered off until next spring, and I've been told there's an absolute glut of storm in the LGS lately. Taxes? OG Thalia seems like a really tough card for Storm to beat. Bring lots of graveyard hate too- Grafdigger's Cage and Relic of Progenitus are both great turn 1 plays against the deck.
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Nov 29, 2017 15:04
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Walked posted:Other than Burn, what beats up on Storm in modern? I'm coming back to modern as larger legacy events have tapered off until next spring, and I've been told there's an absolute glut of storm in the LGS lately. Have you heard the good word of our saviour, Thalia, Guardian of Thraben? Aside from the obvious taxes decks it really depends... if eldrazi tron has chalice in the opener, that's a big game. Humans is good vs storm. Affinity is faster but that's more of a draw vs. play situation. Grixis shadow has enough discard and interaction to beat storm, but it's not a slam dunk matchup. edit: almost forgot RW prison, that's a pretty terrible matchup for storm. Game 1 RW needs a chalice, but game 2 they have chalice and 4 leylines usually, plus plenty of ways to deal with the familiars or a resolved empty the warrens.
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Nov 29, 2017 15:07
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Fingers McLongDong posted:Have you heard the good word of our saviour, Thalia, Guardian of Thraben? I used to play RW Prison a ton; so that may be a good move. But straight Taxes seems like a good approach. I've got all the pieces, even. Slam dunk. 
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Nov 29, 2017 15:14
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The various faeries lists do pretty well against storm, since it has a nice mix of counters, spot removal, and hand disruption, along with and a decent clock from bitterblossom that Storm isn't generally well equipped to handle. There are both a grindy discard-heavy version and a more tempo-oriented version of it floating around and they're both fun (though not cheap). Just be aware that most every Faeries list struggles against the traditional g/b and u tron lists if that's big in your meta and they also basically fold to dredge.
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Nov 29, 2017 15:19
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Walked posted:I used to play RW Prison a ton; so that may be a good move. Can't go wrong. I've played taxes at the last few events I've been to and done well, and I love playing taxes anyway. Storm is a free win, particularly if you want to try the mono-white or BW eldrazi lists, although I prefer monowhite. Have fun watching people get irritated that they are losing to overly fair cards and don't be scared to call people on out fetching when you have an arbiter out.
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Nov 29, 2017 15:25
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Fingers McLongDong posted:Have you heard the good word of our saviour, Thalia, Guardian of Thraben? Tell me what decks run Thalia, I have a playset that I really want to use but I don't know how to do so. AFAIK she's only run in Taxes decks and Humans, and I need Vials to drop off before I can build Taxes. Maybe she would be good in that GW Value Company deck?
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C-Euro posted:Tell me what decks run Thalia, I have a playset that I really want to use but I don't know how to do so. AFAIK she's only run in Taxes decks and Humans, and I need Vials to drop off before I can build Taxes. Maybe she would be good in that GW Value Company deck? Could play her in BW eldrazi
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C-Euro posted:Tell me what decks run Thalia, I have a playset that I really want to use but I don't know how to do so. AFAIK she's only run in Taxes decks and Humans, and I need Vials to drop off before I can build Taxes. Maybe she would be good in that GW Value Company deck? Taxes and humans is pretty much it, although I think you're right and I've seen some in those GW value decks but not always. Vials might drop a little more but it's hard to say. Vials are like hierarchs, it sucks biting the bullet on them but once you have them you can build a lot of fun stuff.
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Nov 29, 2017 15:41
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Yeah some of those GW lists that I've seen have straddled the line between Company decks and more Taxes-y builds, maybe I will just pick up all of the cheap Taxes creatures for now and see where they take me.
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Nov 29, 2017 15:50
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C-Euro posted:Yeah some of those GW lists that I've seen have straddled the line between Company decks and more Taxes-y builds, maybe I will just pick up all of the cheap Taxes creatures for now and see where they take me. Flickerwisps, resto angels, and blade splicers are on sale at school right now I'm going to buy a set of each.
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Nov 29, 2017 15:54
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Walked posted:Other than Burn, what beats up on Storm in modern? I'm coming back to modern as larger legacy events have tapered off until next spring, and I've been told there's an absolute glut of storm in the LGS lately. 8 rack. I love playing against storm with it.
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Errant Gin Monks posted:8 rack. I love playing against storm with it. Bant spirits is great against storm.
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play the magic card Rule of Law or ethersworn canonist (worse because they run 3ish bolts) or the rule of law on a stick (see above) or rest in peace or any other manner of storm hosers pair these hate cards with some plan that isn't "do nothing for five turns"
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Fingers McLongDong posted:What matchups would you want the Kari Zev's expertise in? Death's Shadow I think
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The best way to beat Gifts Storm is to take the storm player outside and punch them in the face while screaming that they're the reason Ponder and Preordain are banned in Modern. Or, just play cards like Chalice of the Void, Eidolon of Rhetoric, Rule of Law, Ethersworn Canonist, Leyline of Sanctity, Grafdigger's Cage, Relic of Progenitus, Inquisition of Kozilek, Thoughtseize, Duress, and Surgical Extraction
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My land destruction is probably 60/40 with storm, mostly game 1 is awkward. 4 out of 5 times a game 1 turn 2 blood moon and removing their Baral/Electromancer is just game, but it all depends on their draws. With my luck, they just always draw all 4 Manamorphose in the top 15 of their deck and win anyway. After board I just bring in Grafdigger's Cages. As long as I can keep their cost-reduction creatures clear (not hard to do with Bolts and Bonfires), they generally can't go off without Past in Flames. If I lose game 1, though, game 3 I need to aggressively mulligan to a turn 1 Cage or I guarantee I'm dead, since I can't get ahead of their curve with blowing up lands. Hooray for the sideboard roulette format! It feels like it's in the same place WOTC was with Dredge a while ago. They wanted to ban it out of dominance, but didn't want to actually ban a card with the word dredge on it. They keep taking storm's rituals or whatever, but also keep printing more cantrips and things like Baral, so it's a wash. Even though you could beat Pod with sideboard hosers, that ate a ban, so I'm not really sure why storm continues to get a pass. Even when I crush it, it's not a fun deck to play against (and I can't see how it's fun to play solitaire). Either way, it feels like one player is always sitting there not playing magic, which doesn't make for particularly interesting games to me.
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extremely my poo poo that Ponza Guy is concern trolling about both players having fun in a match of Magic: the Gathering
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Yeah if it isn't clear I loving hate Modern and make no apologies for playing a troll deck. I'm just as bad as anyone who plays storm. I honestly just have it together in case it's all that launches at an FNM (which is pretty often, lately). I wish there was a Legacy community around here  I've been having a lot of fun with Vintage on MTGO, though. I mostly just rock Cube drafts when I can get the people together.
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Confession: I am building Ponza (and I'm almost done with it!) I've had middling success at best with Valakut Breach over the last few months and need an excuse to use my RG lands. In truth what I really want to do is take the Emrakuls and Through the Breaches from that deck and make UR Breach but ugh Scalding Tarns.
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C-Euro posted:Confession: I am building Ponza (and I'm almost done with it!) Protip: Play a full playset of Stormbreath Dragon. loving all star right now. Inferno Titan sucks. My list if you wanted to take a look: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/491719#paper
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BaronVonVaderham posted:Protip: Play a full playset of Stormbreath Dragon. loving all star right now. Inferno Titan sucks. Word, I have three already. Thanks. How essential is Chandra ToD? Most builds I've seen are running one or two (maindeck) but like hell I'm spending $30+ on a Standard-legal card.
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I honestly haven't played her enough yet to say. I'd say you can survive just fine without her, I did for the longest time, though she gets so much play outside Standard already I don't know how cheap she'll be long-term. Those sideboard slots used to be a pair of Sudden Shock to deal with Infect and Affinity, but online I think they're actually Shatterstorms right now because the latter is rampant on there.
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So I'm strongly considering selling off my collection. I rarely actually get to play paper legacy or vintage, and most of the tournaments I've been going to recently have been full proxy vintage anyways. At least getting rid of the expensive cards like moats, duals, fetches etc. Legacy has been pretty dull for me since top got banned, and the new miracles just doesnt feel as much fun as the old one was. Looking for some advice/thoughts.
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L0cke17 posted:So I'm strongly considering selling off my collection. I rarely actually get to play paper legacy or vintage, and most of the tournaments I've been going to recently have been full proxy vintage anyways. At least getting rid of the expensive cards like moats, duals, fetches etc. Legacy has been pretty dull for me since top got banned, and the new miracles just doesnt feel as much fun as the old one was. Looking for some advice/thoughts. Sell all of your cards to me for almost no money.
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Also me for no money I call dibs on Tundras.
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L0cke17 posted:So I'm strongly considering selling off my collection. I rarely actually get to play paper legacy or vintage, and most of the tournaments I've been going to recently have been full proxy vintage anyways. At least getting rid of the expensive cards like moats, duals, fetches etc. Legacy has been pretty dull for me since top got banned, and the new miracles just doesnt feel as much fun as the old one was. Looking for some advice/thoughts. I did it. It felt great. Nothing like selling an UNL U Sea you spent $180 on for $400.
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suicidesteve posted:I did it. It felt great. Nothing like selling an UNL U Sea you spent $180 on for $400. Even better my seas were 110 when I got them 
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steve texts me every day lamenting that he can't play vintage anymore so DON'T DO IT e: in real talk, i haven't really been that interested either and I think lots of us are in the same position and just moving on to things we enjoy. For some it's cube, I'm picking up old school, maybe for you it's just proxy vintage. i recommend my option the least because I have to keep all of the expensive cards
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I'm selling my cards and I used the money to buy a computer to play better games, you should do it too.
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I'd play 75 proxy old school but the format kind of by definition makes it impossible to have a budget deck. Cube is fun and if I could ever get anyone to actually play it I'd still have mine. I no longer have the cards for even 15 proxy vintage, and they killed my deck so hard that I have no interest in it anyway. Legacy is boring af now and I pretty much only go to hang out with my friends and play commander so I can listen to people whine that I put unfun cards like Counterspell in my deck before we die to something degenerate because I played my stupid Grenzo deck and I'm the only one who puts any counters in my decks. Magic is bad is what I'm getting at, and selling your cards and paying off bills or whatever is awesome.
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For the first time in a long time I actually have a guy I know who I can meet up for FNM and stuff, but I don't have nearly the time to play that I wish I had. He even has more than one Legacy deck! I should sell off a couple of decks that I don't get to play anymore but they're all too incestuous to sell off as complete decks, and parsing the cards out seems like a lot of work I don't feel like doing right now.
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