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Corrode posted:gently caress are the bolter dudes like 135pts now? I might have to get them back in at that rate. I'm literally going to fill my fast attack slots up with these things in every list. They're the same concept as my jump pack storm bolter vets but better in every single way. Maybe two bolter squads and one plasma along with a Captain and the jump pack lieutenant that I will hopefully be getting. That 18" range will make placement so much easier.
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# ? Nov 24, 2017 20:35 |
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Pendent posted:Remember when the bolters were like 225 for a squad? Someone dropped the ball pretty hard given that these models have seen an almost 50% price drop from when they were first released. Who the gently caress though they should go from 159 for a squad in dark imperium to 225 in imperium 1.
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# ? Nov 24, 2017 20:37 |
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Malanthropes are 140pts now. I was expecting 120ish, but drat. I just hope they dropped Dimachaerons & Hierodules down in line with the codex units
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# ? Nov 24, 2017 21:01 |
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xtothez posted:Malanthropes are 140pts now. I was expecting 120ish, but drat. The sting of this is somewhat lessened by Spore Cysts and the Kraken relic but still
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# ? Nov 24, 2017 21:15 |
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Well poo poo! My 18 Inceptors with Assault Bolters just got a lot better!
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# ? Nov 24, 2017 21:16 |
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xtothez posted:Malanthropes are 140pts now. I was expecting 120ish, but drat. I'll still run them I think, they were a steal for 90 points. 140 is a lot but not nonviable I think. xtothez posted:I just hope they dropped Dimachaerons & Hierodules down in line with the codex units I have an unreasonable need to know this, where is the source for this new information?
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# ? Nov 24, 2017 21:17 |
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Next preview for CA: Campgains. And a new Slytherin game Gladius: Relics of War
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# ? Nov 24, 2017 21:24 |
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Pendent posted:I'm literally going to fill my fast attack slots up with these things in every list. They're the same concept as my jump pack storm bolter vets but better in every single way. Maybe two bolter squads and one plasma along with a Captain and the jump pack lieutenant that I will hopefully be getting. That 18" range will make placement so much easier. Let's say 3 squads of 3, for 405pts. 27 T5 Sv3+ wounds putting out 54 S5 shots, BS3+. Effective range 30", no penalty for moving. At CA points costs you get 3 Asscan Razorbacks for 70 + 44 = 114pts, or 3 for 342pts. 36 S6 shots on 30 T7 Sv3+ wounds. Effective range of 36", but you're at -1 for moving, plus you don't have Fly. You do save 63pts though. 3 squads, 3 Assbacks and 8-12 lascannons looks like a solid foundation.
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# ? Nov 24, 2017 21:26 |
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goose willis posted:I'm kind of underwhelmed at Mantic's Black Friday sales so far FLGS sold off all their Mantic stuff on clearance today for 50% off. A large neckbeard bought most of it as soon as the store opened. I got some Kabalite warriors for $1/model
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# ? Nov 24, 2017 21:26 |
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xtothez posted:I just hope they dropped Dimachaerons & Hierodules down in line with the codex units This is a good joke.......
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# ? Nov 24, 2017 21:43 |
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Corrode posted:Let's say 3 squads of 3, for 405pts. 18 wounds, they're not any tougher.
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# ? Nov 24, 2017 21:44 |
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They're tougher in the sense that you get to keep them off the table in reserves so you don't have to worry about losing them before they shoot. They're also far more useful in that deepstriking allows you to punish mistakes that your opponent makes with positioning. Fly also gives you more flexibility in that you can tie up an enemy vehicle or something one then and then get to shoot the next. Inceptors are going to be extremely my poo poo. I'm really hoping Dante gets some cool aura so that I can drop him alongside a few squads to wreck everything in sight.
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# ? Nov 24, 2017 21:48 |
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How do they hold up to asscan tarantulas? Same price, more mobile, less firepower, fewer wounds.
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# ? Nov 24, 2017 21:50 |
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Artum posted:18 wounds, they're not any tougher. Oh I thought they had an extra wound before, 18 then.
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# ? Nov 24, 2017 21:51 |
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Markerlight Uplink just single handedly made me keep two Cadre Fireblades in my Tau list.
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# ? Nov 24, 2017 21:52 |
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Strobe posted:Markerlight Uplink just single handedly made me keep two Cadre Fireblades in my Tau list. It does mean that it is far more likely that you can get 5 lights on a target each turn, a fireblade and a 5+ unit of pathfinders is all but guaranteed to get enough on target. Almost even more importantly this means that you can have a few sources spread around such that you have a decent chance of having enough survive into later turns of the game to get +1bs. Potentially you could even have two targets marked first turn without a ridiculous investment.
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# ? Nov 24, 2017 23:01 |
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TKIY posted:So according to the Twitch stream, Celestine is now 350pts. Woof, she's used a ton at the LFGS but maybe now my sisters won't be putting her in the ground so often.
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R0ckfish posted:It does mean that it is far more likely that you can get 5 lights on a target each turn, a fireblade and a 5+ unit of pathfinders is all but guaranteed to get enough on target. Almost even more importantly this means that you can have a few sources spread around such that you have a decent chance of having enough survive into later turns of the game to get +1bs. Potentially you could even have two targets marked first turn without a ridiculous investment. Bingo. Fireblades having a 2+ markerlight that drops an average of 3 stacks is worth a lot. It means the entire army gets significantly more mobile because you can average a first shot to negate heavy weapon penalties. Or on a Mont'ka you can get the +1/reroll even if your entire markerlight corps advanced.
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# ? Nov 24, 2017 23:43 |
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The shrieking but interesting hellscape that is 40kg posted:Helping set up the open day displays right now. Things ive seen Interesting if true. primaris jetbikes would help my mobility troubles if the price is right. If those lion leaks are accurate and hes strictly better guilliman I'm gonna flip a table, I'm already disinclined to bring guilliman with him being so damned powerful.
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# ? Nov 24, 2017 23:54 |
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Artum posted:If those lion leaks are accurate and hes strictly better guilliman I'm gonna flip a table, I'm already disinclined to bring guilliman with him being so damned powerful. Bring both.
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# ? Nov 25, 2017 00:01 |
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Bigly jetbikes can go right to hell. Give me plastic dickbikes.
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# ? Nov 25, 2017 00:15 |
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Bigly moritati, Bigly cataphractii, give me ALLLLLLLL the legion marine poo poo.
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# ? Nov 25, 2017 00:22 |
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Phoenix Terminators? Huh.
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# ? Nov 25, 2017 00:31 |
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Curious about unique Ynnari units. Suicide Elves ho?
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# ? Nov 25, 2017 00:37 |
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If I could pre-order that Arbites judge right now I would, I don't even need to see it.
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# ? Nov 25, 2017 00:58 |
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Soviet Commubot posted:If I could pre-order that Arbites judge right now I would, I don't even need to see it. I'll hold my judgement until I can see the squareness of it's chin.
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# ? Nov 25, 2017 01:06 |
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xtothez posted:Malanthropes are 140pts now. I was expecting 120ish, but drat. Surprise motherfuckers, they made the heirodules more expensive
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# ? Nov 25, 2017 01:11 |
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Technowolf posted:And a new Slytherin game Gladius: Relics of War Please be good Please be good
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# ? Nov 25, 2017 01:12 |
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Hencoe posted:Surprise motherfuckers, they made the heirodules more expensive Barbed goes up by 2pts net due to the scytal points changes, Scythed is down by 30, Harridan down by 38. It's worth noting that while the Hierophant went up by 10%, nearly all the equivalent or bigger titan units went up by 30-60%. Warhounds are now the same points as a Hierophant and not as good, Warlords have gone from 4000 to 6000. Looks like a pretty straightforward way to take titans out of ~2k tournament lists. Celestine is 200pts in the leaked pics. The guys on twitch earlier must have been drunk or something. xtothez fucked around with this message at 01:53 on Nov 25, 2017 |
# ? Nov 25, 2017 01:40 |
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Jetbikes? How weird would it be for Marine to actually have several viable choices for fast attack?
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# ? Nov 25, 2017 01:56 |
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My last two weeks have been decently productive, I just finished some Zoanthropes and last week I did 20 hormagaunts it would be difficult to get 20 gauts in a picture so have 5 of them instead
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# ? Nov 25, 2017 02:06 |
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xtothez posted:Barbed goes up by 2pts net due to the scytal points changes, Scythed is down by 30, Harridan down by 38. Oh, I was just shown the 420 base with a laughing face next to it. They are still kinda bad.
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# ? Nov 25, 2017 02:15 |
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I'm not near my index to check adjusted point values, but it seems like both the sicaran venator and fire raptor are dropping by 60ish points. I think I'll be running both of those a lot more.
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# ? Nov 25, 2017 02:20 |
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Excited to see some new Eldar models, even if they are Ynarri-specific! When is this open day thing? I have just finished a cracking 3-way game, 1k per player. We did run into the classic problem where 2 players clash, then one comes in to clean up, but not quite in a standard way: - Player 1, using Crimson Fists, all bikes and landspeeders, comes steaming at my Eldar, causing a few wounds but is out of rapid fire range and moving with heavy weapons; fails to get first blood. Player 2, Space Wolves including Logan on his christmas sled, some thunderwolves, and squads in asscan razorbacks, moves up toward the action. Player 3, me, with Eldar (Shining Spears, Vypers, 2 characters). I completely roll through the Crimson Fists army with shooting and the shining spear +autarch charges. Literally kill the entire 1k army except a landspeeder and his wounded captain. Space Wolves then start to shoot me up. Finishing the Crimson Fists, I try to take down Logan but am a bit unlucky and he survives on 2 wounds. Space Wolf riposte guts my army. We then fenced on tactical objectives and tried to finish each other off. Game ended turn 5, 16-15 to me (we both had good luck on our draws and accomplished loads of objectives). He had more stuff remaining, but wouldn't have been in a position to table me anyway. I was down to 2 wounded Vypers and my wounded Farseer. Great game. Shining Spears rule. Vypers rule. Saim Hann forever.
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Genghis Cohen posted:Excited to see some new Eldar models, even if they are Ynarri-specific! When is this open day thing? Tomorrow and Sunday, Warham Community should have a live blog for it.
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# ? Nov 25, 2017 02:28 |
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Hencoe posted:Oh, I was just shown the 420 base with a laughing face next to it. I'm actually considering using a Scythed Hierodule again. Honestly the main thing separating them from Knights was the lack of invuln, but we have a few extra ways to mitigate that now. I've also been checking changes for other armies and have been finding it kinda hilarious that everyone else's massive units are getting points hikes up waaaay more than Tyranids for once. Most titans are up by at least 30%, Thunderhawks and Tau'nar armour doubled in cost, and all those FW greater daemon characters got sizeable increases. Pretty sure GW don't want folks bringing all this poo poo to competitive games.
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# ? Nov 25, 2017 02:36 |
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Where are people seeing the the points costs for forgeworld stuff?
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# ? Nov 25, 2017 03:00 |
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Pendent posted:Where are people seeing the the points costs for forgeworld stuff? https://www.instagram.com/p/Bb5U_nflpU2/
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# ? Nov 25, 2017 03:30 |
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I wonder if CA will fix the Tarantulas.
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Taunar is 1500 base loving way to kill that list really, really dead. A shame we didn't get any other Tau leaks.
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