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Nancy Pelosi is an effective leader, but awful, awful, awful at TV appearances and needed to stop doing them years ago.
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Joementum posted:Nancy Pelosi is an effective leader, but awful, awful, awful at TV appearances and needed to stop doing them years ago. Effective as in a 1000 total lost down ticket races? After such a loss she said she wanted to maintain the status quo....
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Nov 26, 2017 19:07
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I don't even think she's effective in the context of an opposition business party paid to lose
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:wrong if theres one thing i learned in japan you can listen to like 40 at once AKB48 was created to be essentially a minor celebrity factory. With 48 members they can regularly bring in new people and create spinoff subbands. Some former AKB members have gone on to have successful solo music or acting careers, but I think most of the just retire or go into gravure. AKB48's success led to copycat groups throughout Asia. Idol groups with huge membership aren't a product of Asian cultural taste so much as they are a product of horrifying late-stage capitalism
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etalian posted:Effective as in a 1000 total lost down ticket races? After such a loss she said she wanted to maintain the status quo.... Effective in terms of keeping the House caucus in line. She's been leader for so long most people don't remember what it's like without her in charge, but expect the House Dems to behave a lot more like the House Republicans when she's gone. But yes, in terms of media appearances and campaigning, she's garbage.
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Nov 26, 2017 19:09
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Joementum posted:Nancy Pelosi is an effective leader, but awful, awful, awful at TV appearances and needed to stop doing them years ago. I wish people would stop saying the first part of this statement.
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Nov 26, 2017 19:09
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Guy Goodbody posted:AKB48 was created to be essentially a minor celebrity factory. With 48 members they can regularly bring in new people and create spinoff subbands. Some former AKB members have gone on to have successful solo music or acting careers, but I think most of the just retire or go into gravure. AKB48's success led to copycat groups throughout Asia. excuse me this is clearly nogizaka46
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Nov 26, 2017 19:10
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Nancy Pelosi has been instrumental in silencing progressives and excusing Obama's terrible presidency.
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Nov 26, 2017 19:17
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Joementum posted:Effective in terms of keeping the House caucus in line. She's been leader for so long most people don't remember what it's like without her in charge, but expect the House Dems to behave a lot more like the House Republicans when she's gone. Oh right, that's why the Dems were able to accomplish so much when they controlled the legislature in 2009. Wait, that's wrong! They accomplished almost nothing!
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logikv9 posted:I can only do a month or a week A week. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Nov 26, 2017 19:22
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i guess nancy pelosi might've been effective at serving the interests of capital and ensuring no pro-union or pro-worker legislation would be passed or entertained
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Frijolero posted:Nancy Pelosi has been instrumental in silencing progressives and excusing Obama's terrible presidency.
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Crowsbeak posted:A week. enjoy!
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Nov 26, 2017 19:24
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Obummer Nancy!
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For his crimes of sexual misconduct congressman Conyers is being sent to his office without dessert,
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Nancy Pelosi is the grim spectre of death that this Hellworld government will visit upon us all.
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Joementum posted:Effective in terms of keeping the House caucus in line. She's been leader for so long most people don't remember what it's like without her in charge, but expect the House Dems to behave a lot more like the House Republicans when she's gone. thats pretty hosed if she's the bastion there but like just peel that scab off and let it bleed already otherwise its just perpetuity as she strives for the status quo god forbid that those house democrats in her absence just galvanizes the left more~
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Pelosi, meanwhile, also said the reaction to sexual misconduct accusations against former President Bill Clinton from that era versus today represent “obviously a generational change.” “The concern that we had then was that they were impeaching the president of the United States, and for something that had nothing to do with the performance of his duties, and trying to take him out for that reason," Pelosi added. "But let's go forward. Let's go forward. I think that something wonderful is happening now, very credible. It's 100 years, almost 100 years, since women got the right to vote. Here we are, almost 100 years later, and something very transformative is happening.”
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Guy Goodbody posted:Oh right, that's why the Dems were able to accomplish so much when they controlled the legislature in 2009. the house did a great job in 2009, it's just most of their bills died in the senate
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Pelosi joined the House in 1987 and just kinda stayed there.
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punk rebel ecks posted:While I definitely agree with you, I can see Matt's point of how some of the white rurals are suffocating their children to a life of minimal opportunity in order to spite the liberals. Obviously a Latino who graduates from college will be paid less and have less opportunities than a white person who does the same. But they will more than likely be better of than a walking stereotype in bumfuck nowhere who barely scraped by their GED. These people will go to trade schools and technical colleges to get local okay paying jobs within their social economic demographic. This is something they've done and will do, as hands on technical/mechanical work will always be needed. Those who are more educate will go to higher level institutions that either share their social ideology (avoiding liberal colleges), or deal with the conflicts on campus (see many tropes about college clique interactions). The people that are on the low end of power will ultimately have no real effect on what really happens as their position is literally within the status quo that has existed for longer than I've been alive. The people with power are the rich who go to college anyway and graduate despite their skills, which they are more likely to have honed due to the benefits they have for being more well off than the poor saps who are still in debt over 10 years later for even the small amount secondary technical schooling costs. The thing about trade schools and technical colleges is academic liberals have the same disdain for them and the social class that frequent them as do the people who dislike college liberalism. So all the Academia vs Trade/Technical training BS is just an extension of greater social cultural clash and worth literally nothing as nothing has changed nor will change. ThndrShk2k has issued a correction as of 19:49 on Nov 26, 2017 |
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Lastgirl posted:thats pretty hosed if she's the bastion there but like just peel that scab off and let it bleed already otherwise its just perpetuity as she strives for the status quo I mean, unless you’re a federal employee in suburban Maryland, Minority Leader Hoyer ain’t gonna be a treat.
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https://twitter.com/benjaminwittes/status/934816928081858560 this whole thread is an amazing encapsulation of elite liberal “Trump is the disease, not a mere symptom” thinking
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etalian posted:I hope they build the 2nd HQ in a miserable rust belt city like Rochester or Cleveland. It should be in Buffalo NY so that nobody wants to use Amazon anymore
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:only 59% of people who enter college graduate though, so thats still around 35% with an actual degree That's irrelevant to the topic at hand though, which is related to people paying for college. Presumably those people who didn't graduate still had to spend money in most cases to attend for the time they did.
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sleep with the vicious posted:Bernie is the sexist, actually If they claim that someone else is something bad with a huge amount of gusto, but deny they are that something bad, then they are indeed that something bad, if not more. Especially if they have literally little to no amount of evidence defending their initial claim against the other, and yet the same if not more evidence for the claim against them. Just remember, even the Republicans call Bernie Sanders honest to a fault as a compliment to him as a person but detriment to his character and genuine political opinions, and we got Democrats calling him one of the most corrupt and grifting politicians ever and his supporters equally compromised. Literally straight up projection.
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Guy Goodbody posted:AKB48 was created to be essentially a minor celebrity factory. With 48 members they can regularly bring in new people and create spinoff subbands. Some former AKB members have gone on to have successful solo music or acting careers, but I think most of the just retire or go into gravure. AKB48's success led to copycat groups throughout Asia. Also one dude is responsible for a lot of them and he does the molesting at them all the time
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there's a specter haunting the suck zone the specter of nancy pelosi
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Barry Convex posted:https://twitter.com/benjaminwittes/status/934816928081858560 The Suck Zone: A political manifesto in eighteen tweets.
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Can't ya'll just protest quietly outside of town? It's just so gosh darn rude y'know?
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it's a little weird given the amount of downballot losses in the past decade that there hasn't been the same push to replace democratic leadership that there was among republicans in the wake of of their losses in 06-08, which were nowhere near as severe
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The Muppets On PCP posted:it's a little weird given the amount of downballot losses in the past decade that there hasn't been the same push to replace democratic leadership that there was among republicans in the wake of of their losses in 06-08, which were nowhere near as severe The base of the Democrats has no real political power, and the people at the top are the ones with wads of cash. The base can't influence the leadership to do poo poo, because leadership is in safe districts and control all the finances.
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Nov 26, 2017 20:43
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just walk around and point at things and say "nationalized" already bernie
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Nov 26, 2017 20:44
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The world in which pelosi would/should be replaced would be a hell of a lot more clear if everytime it was brought up the instant response wasn't "OH SO YOU WANT THE HOUSE DEMS LED BY TIM RYAN" or whatever lameass currently has seniority/position rather than picking from all available options.
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The Muppets On PCP posted:it's a little weird given the amount of downballot losses in the past decade that there hasn't been the same push to replace democratic leadership that there was among republicans in the wake of of their losses in 06-08, which were nowhere near as severe
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