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Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



an actual dog posted:

the NYT should do a sympathetic profile of someone who really hates white people, just to mix it up.

they used to write nice things about obama pretty often

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Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

https://twitter.com/michaelwhitney/status/934487778544545793

:thunk:

Prav
Oct 29, 2011

yowza that black sun confederate battleflag

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/status/934452204597121025

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

Prav posted:

yowza that black sun confederate battleflag

There was an rear end in a top hat I knew who was into southern-heritage focused NSBM when I was a whelpling punk in Richmond Virginia about a decade and a half ago, in the past. He would have worn one of those on every limb.

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


I'm not going to look it up, but I think we all know the NYT would never right a column like that about anyone vaguely leftist.

e: oh yeah there it is just a couple posts up:

here's how the NYT treats the Left


The Kingfish has issued a correction as of 16:22 on Nov 26, 2017

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

sad, failing https://nytimes.com/2017/11/25/opinion/sunday/myanmar-aung-san-suu-kyi-rohingya.html

quote:

What is clear is that Aung San Suu Kyi’s reticence has favored obfuscation. It has left the field open for a ferocious Facebook war over recent events. The Rohingya and Buddhists inhabit separate realities. There are no agreed facts, even basic ones. This is the contemporary post-truth condition. As the Annan report notes, “narratives are often exclusive and irreconcilable.”

CombineThresher
Apr 10, 2006

GIT R DONNE

Over Easy posted:

There was an rear end in a top hat I knew who was into southern-heritage focused NSBM when I was a whelpling punk in Richmond Virginia about a decade and a half ago, in the past. He would have worn one of those on every limb.

I briefly knew the jerkoffs in Empire Falls as a teenager, back when they were pretending to be an apolitical hardcore band, and I'm sure they're all over this poo poo now.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/934881971507023872?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
hahaha omg

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 20 days!)


Male libido is the movie Shivers.

Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005


Don't forget gouging their eyes out!

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747
https://mobile.twitter.com/BroncoBob360/status/934884526098145280

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void



Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

It's not that ironic considering Nietzsche's philosophy was a constructive one, and valued creativity over all other pursuits. The reactionaries of Nietzche's day, and the Nazis who would follow, glorified the past and sought to elevate their own ersatz imitations of perceived past glories instead of a genuine and creatively original culture. The Nazis took this all a step further by destroying actually existing German and European cultures to supplant them with their own perverse vulgarities.

Nietzsche certainly is a reactionary thinker in his own right, but in an individualistic way. To inflict misery and suffering was contrary to his idealistic framework.

I've actually tried to decide how much of a reactionary* Nietzsche was when it comes to his vision for a way forward, and it is genuinely hard. He's a brilliant critic of any number of topics IMO but he does seem to have this "return to the old ways" thrust in his thought. This is made complicated still further by some of his assumptions being wrong, so you get this thing where Nietzsche is super concerned about X but X is a misunderstanding of some sort and we really wouldn't think about it today.

*You may be using the term in a different way, I mean it in the sense of "a shitload of change is happening, we should go back to these previous values and ways etc."

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

More on topic, I think the NYT is genuinely worried they are missing out on the hot Nazi trend sweeping rich white America, and also realize trolling is the best way to harvest dem clicks

which is a win/win as far as they are concerned

Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005

Nebakenezzer posted:

More on topic, I think the NYT is genuinely worried they are missing out on the hot Nazi trend sweeping rich white America, and also realize trolling is the best way to harvest dem clicks

which is a win/win as far as they are concerned

Alternatively, they aspire to be a knockoff Daily Heil (since Rothermere did a better job at it in the 30s/40s).

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

land of contrasts

Trumps Baby Hands
Mar 27, 2016

Silent white light filled the world. And the righteous and unrighteous alike were consumed in that holy fire.

chuds gonna start murdering their dads and sleeping with their moms to own the libs

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 20 days!)

Nebakenezzer posted:

I've actually tried to decide how much of a reactionary* Nietzsche was when it comes to his vision for a way forward, and it is genuinely hard. He's a brilliant critic of any number of topics IMO but he does seem to have this "return to the old ways" thrust in his thought. This is made complicated still further by some of his assumptions being wrong, so you get this thing where Nietzsche is super concerned about X but X is a misunderstanding of some sort and we really wouldn't think about it today.

*You may be using the term in a different way, I mean it in the sense of "a shitload of change is happening, we should go back to these previous values and ways etc."

By reactionary, I mean that Nietzsche was opposed to equitable justice, socialism, etc., and embraced an aristocratic idealism. Though to his credit, Nietzsche's aristocracy was the creative leadership of the Overman, and not determined by lineage. I don't see how that's distinguishable from Capitalism to be honest. I mean, you can claim that capitalists obfuscate the true creatives in society by claiming credit through their bourgeois social relations - and while that's true - it's not something I think Nietzsche could really grasp the implications of considering his background. His ideology was deeply flawed, but there's more value to his philosophy and writing than any of his contemporaries in the German reaction.

Pikavangelist
Nov 9, 2016

There is no God but Arceus
And Pikachu is His prophet



Trumps Baby Hands posted:

chuds gonna start murdering their dads and sleeping with their moms to own the libs

Ron Paul 2012

Durf
Aug 16, 2017




this is probably just a rehashed highlight reel of twitter jokes but lol whatever

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/11/a-nazi-cooks-pasta/546737/

quote:

“The schools are full of coloreds,” says Stephanie, smiling wryly. Her teeth shimmer in the reflected glow of the neon and the flaxen colored nacho cheese. She is wearing a cotton-wool hoodie and her hair is in a hasty ponytail, spilling out in places like spaghetti in a full pot, in an attractive way. “I know I’m not supposed to say that, I know it’s not P.C. or whatever, but they are.”

She is wearing an arm band with an embroidered swastika. It is available for purchase here. [Link redacted.]

Willie Tomg
Feb 2, 2006

Durf posted:

this is probably just a rehashed highlight reel of twitter jokes but lol whatever

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/11/a-nazi-cooks-pasta/546737/

in old lf t-paine would do these posts where he'd garnish copypasted newspaper articles with little bursts of horrible little fictions of his own authorship and it wasn't until like halfway through the sentence you'd realize he was Doing That Thing again and it was usually pretty funny because when he'd do it it'd turn out the most horrifying parts were just more copypaste. i mention this because

quote:

Stephanie Stevenson is followed by a normal dog, who walks into the room with a slight limp, and Stephen pets it. He leans in.

“The Jews control all the money, and the world would be better off if they were dead,” he says, petting the dog. “Who’s a good boy?”

The question is rhetorical. I ask about the wallpaper.

Some people disagree with Stevenson’s political views.

“He’s a nice enough guy,” said the local grocer, Butch Tarmac, a registered Democrat. “He buys apples and pancake mix. I also like those things. But I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree on the bit about the one true race cleansing the soil and commanding what is rightfully theirs.”

“It’s totally hosed up,” said one person, whose name I didn’t catch.

they read exactly like that

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
I'm not reading the defense again, but if memory serves it was like

quote:

I wrote the article with one question in mind. Why did Stephanie Stevenson, who spent three summers babysitting to save up for a car, adopt such a hateful ideology?

How could she be normal and also a Nazi? Nazis are obviously bad but she's otherwise good.

I talked to my editor about it and decided not to bother doing any more research besides the initial interview. Because what could I possibly learn?

Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007

https://twitter.com/dansinker/status/934986444422119424

lol

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Yesterday's Nazi

Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007

I think it was Current Affairs that tweeted that basically every nazi in America has their own personal journalist

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

Badger of Basra posted:

I think it was Current Affairs that tweeted that basically every nazi in America has their own personal journalist

:roflolmao:

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/26/reader-center/readers-accuse-us-of-normalizing-a-nazi-sympathizer-we-respond.html

quote:

Readers Accuse Us of Normalizing a Nazi Sympathizer; We Respond


We assigned Richard Fausset, one of our smartest thinkers and best writers


lol

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

why the hell did they even bother issuing this half-assed "apology"

it accurately lists many of the reasons people hated the article, but doesn't actually acknowledge or respond to any of them. it just issues a generic "sorry you were offended" at the end

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

WaPo takes a shot:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/compost/wp/2017/11/27/nazis-theyre-just-like-us/

quote:

I spoke to the man who starts fires. He thinks everything ought to be on fire. He wants the whole world to burn. (I live in a fireproof house.) He wore a nice tie. He had a tattoo of a smiley face. He loves pop culture. As we spoke, he lit everyone around us on fire. He did not light me on fire, because I was interviewing him. (I could not believe this.) He was neat and polite. (He said that everything should be on fire.) I had no further questions for him.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 20 days!)

Sad day when you're getting savaged by the Jeff Bezos-owned Washington Post for being too soft on Nazis.

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Main Paineframe posted:

why the hell did they even bother issuing this half-assed "apology"

it accurately lists many of the reasons people hated the article, but doesn't actually acknowledge or respond to any of them. it just issues a generic "sorry you were offended" at the end

sorry you plebs just didnt understand the genius of our editorial decisions

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010
https://twitter.com/urbanophile/status/934883687677792256

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 20 days!)

Where's the New York Times profile on Jason Unruhe?

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Main Paineframe posted:

why the hell did they even bother issuing this half-assed "apology"
Why does anyone in anything other then a personal context apologize for anything? It makes no sense.

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Where's the New York Times profile on Jason Unruhe?

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Where's the New York Times profile on Jason Unruhe?

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991


it's a shame they got terminally unfunny nepotism case alexandra petri to write it

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Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

very uncharacteristic for a stalinist to have a bad sense of humour

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