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UPDATE: National MP Brett Hudson comments: posted:
Makes sense to me, answer the questions and this wouldn't have happened.
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cptn_dr posted:Mine vibrated a whole bunch, but I feel that given I sleep through earthquakes on the reg, it should probably go a bit further and make some loud noises.
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Nov 26, 2017 23:30
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Ghostlight posted:Mine made such an awful din that I legitimately thought it was warning me my battery was about to explode or something. Mine started beeping like crazy while I was in a call on Discord, scared the crap out of everyone present. Probably smart to make sure that it works. 
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Nov 26, 2017 23:51
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Also, if anyone's curious about those 7,000 questions from Trevor Mallard, they're all of a very similar format but instead of "who did such and such meet with on this day" gossip poo poo they're slightly more substantive like "how many X bedroom properties does Housing New Zealand have tenanted in Suburb" and "How many properties does Housing New Zealand lease in Suburb", almost as if there was a housing crisis being covered up.
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Nov 27, 2017 00:20
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I wonder if you could create a botnet that drowned the other guy in constant minor requests. Also I never received a disaster thing guess I'm dead in an earthquake lol.
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Nov 27, 2017 02:09
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SurreptitiousMuffin posted:I wonder if you could create a botnet that drowned the other guy in constant minor requests. Evidently only about a third of the phones in NZ can actually recieve those so whoops.
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Nov 27, 2017 02:34
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They can't guarantee it works with parallel imported phones, which I feel would be a pretty significant percentage.
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Nov 27, 2017 02:41
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That's like making a traffic light they can't guarantee works with imported cars. FWIW I'm rolling a nexus 5 and didn't receive jack poo poo.
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Nov 27, 2017 02:47
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Slavvy posted:Evidently only about a third of the phones in NZ can actually recieve those so whoops. There's not much they can do if only newer phones are capable of receiving the alert system. Also FYI the nexus 5 stopped receiving new android update support about 2 years ago so that's probably why you didn't get it
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Nov 27, 2017 03:14
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The last time I got a system update was like three months ago but I don't know poo poo about gadgets so you're probably right. Suffice it to say if a smartphone from a couple of years ago can't get them then they're poo poo out of luck and need to come up with something else.
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Nov 27, 2017 03:40
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I have an S7 and got an update on Saturday morning, and got no alerts. I think I have alerts turned on, but because it's Samsung that option is tied into the stock messaging app which I don't use and don't know if it is set up and just failed, or if it's being restricted somehow, or if I just shouldnt expect it because the phone is only the last flagship model but one, not the current flagship. e: a+ system well done all Big Bad Beetleborg fucked around with this message at 03:45 on Nov 27, 2017 |
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Nov 27, 2017 03:43
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You can warn some of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, but you can't warn all the people all of the time.
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Nov 27, 2017 03:47
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Can't they just make the skytower start flashing or something? People who aren't in LOS of that thing don't really matter anyway.
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Nov 27, 2017 03:49
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Big Bad Beetleborg posted:I have an S7 and got an update on Saturday morning, and got no alerts. I think I have alerts turned on, but because it's Samsung that option is tied into the stock messaging app which I don't use and don't know if it is set up and just failed, or if it's being restricted somehow, or if I just shouldnt expect it because the phone is only the last flagship model but one, not the current flagship. Missus has an s7 and got the alert.
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Nov 27, 2017 03:53
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Just think of buying a new phone as an investment in not dying. 
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Nov 27, 2017 03:56
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Slavvy posted:The last time I got a system update was like three months ago but I don't know poo poo about gadgets so you're probably right. Suffice it to say if a smartphone from a couple of years ago can't get them then they're poo poo out of luck and need to come up with something else. Yeah but the major android versions are no longer going out, it's from 2013 so ancient in terms of phones these days. Have to say the google updates don't last all that long for their phones though, kind of silly. Here's the support lifespan for nexus devices: https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/4457705#nexus_devices I think if you have the latest android version you received the alert. That seems to be just how this system works and i'm assuming there is nothing lil ol NZ civil defence can do to change it
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Nov 27, 2017 04:02
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The plan is for all the poors who don’t own the latest phone to die.
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Nov 27, 2017 04:24
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Wandle Cax posted:I think if you have the latest android version you received the alert. That seems to be just how this system works and i'm assuming there is nothing lil ol NZ civil defence can do to change it Sure there is, it's called coming up with a different system.
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Nov 27, 2017 04:53
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Is there an app that older phones and devices can download? If not then that is a pretty major failing given a huge number of Kiwis have budget Vodafone branded Android phones like me.
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Nov 27, 2017 04:56
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They expect about 30% of people will get the warnings. So unless you live alone, chances are someone in your house will get it. That % will increase in time of course.
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Nov 27, 2017 05:47
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Wandle Cax posted:Yeah but the major android versions are no longer going out, it's from 2013 so ancient in terms of phones these days. Have to say the google updates don't last all that long for their phones though, kind of silly. Here's the support lifespan for nexus devices: https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/4457705#nexus_devices gently caress all phones have the latest android version so it won't be that. Even some flagship phones from this year haven't been updated to that.
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Nov 27, 2017 05:57
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Taitale posted:gently caress all phones have the latest android version so it won't be that. Even some flagship phones from this year haven't been updated to that. Good point yeah, probably not the very latest then Slavvy posted:Sure there is, it's called coming up with a different system. I guess they could just give everyone a phone call or email or SMS text? or maybe send out pigeons or something?
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Nov 27, 2017 06:02
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Taitale posted:gently caress all phones have the latest android version so it won't be that. Even some flagship phones from this year haven't been updated to that. I'm guessing it is actually relying on your telco rolling it out in their bundle.
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Nov 27, 2017 06:05
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I was in a group of like 50 people when the Civil Defence message happened and almost everyone got about 5 messages. I still have android 5.1.1 I think, and I got it. Mostly it seemed to vary based on which telco people were with.
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Nov 27, 2017 06:07
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Wandle Cax posted:Good point yeah, probably not the very latest then A text would be a good idea because literally everyone communicates using those yeah.
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Nov 27, 2017 06:12
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Slavvy posted:A text would be a good idea because literally everyone communicates using those yeah. I'm assuming they wanted this system to be a bit more than a text, i.e. come through on a special reserved channel, since in an emergency normal channels are congested, and it will take priority over everything else and display on the screen immediately, make noise even when the phone's on silent, etc, which is why I imagine they are using this system for their disaster alerts
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Nov 27, 2017 06:18
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Couldn't they just use regular text messages in the meantime?
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Nov 27, 2017 06:42
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Having 30% of phones go off like that with an easy to read yet detailed message is still pretty good in such a shattered OS environment. I don't doubt they will send mass text if need be, but having your phone do that is an unmistakable message of something is happening and you need to pay attention as well as a way to authenticate. How many people here would ignore normal text messages until later?
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Nov 27, 2017 06:51
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Nobody would get a text message if it were in the middle of the night. Better than nothing, maybe, but still basically ineffective
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Nov 27, 2017 07:07
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bike tory posted:Nobody would get a text message if it were in the middle of the night. Better than nothing, maybe, but still basically ineffective Also many people wouldn't receive a text at all or in a timely manner in an emergency either as the network would get overloaded very quickly
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Nov 27, 2017 07:22
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Varkk posted:The plan is for all the poors who don’t own the latest phone to die.  I have an iphone 5s, a phone released September 2013, over 4 years ago.. I received the warning on my phone
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Nov 27, 2017 11:20
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Don Brash 'utterly sick' of use of Te Reo Maori by reporters, is still a huge piece of poo poo.
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Nov 27, 2017 23:19
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Lmao that guy ran for Prime Minister and was supported by a large number of people.
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Nov 27, 2017 23:22
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Even worse he pulled National from their lowest ever support to almost winning by whining about the Maoris.
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Nov 28, 2017 01:05
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redleader posted:Don Brash 'utterly sick' of use of Te Reo Maori by reporters, is still a huge piece of poo poo. Well then don brash should stop listening to Radio New Zealand then.
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Nov 28, 2017 03:00
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Someone slapping DTB in the face would signal virtue very well, imo. He writes articles for this e-local magazine that gets delivered in south auckland and his article always have this undercurrent of pettiness over completely innocuous things. Amazingly he managed to write one where he acknowledged that the labour party had won the election fairly, so I guess his hate for the people who dumped him from the national party overrode his usual hate.
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Nov 28, 2017 03:38
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The OWM who publishes the e-local wrote several editorials for it a while back alleging a pre-Maori Celtic civilisation in New Zealand which is being covered up by a Government/UN conspiracy, which means that because he knows the REAL STORY that The Treaty of Waitangi is invalid and therefore The usual white supremacist  nonsense basically.
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Nov 28, 2017 04:21
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Bunch of journalists think they have a "gotcha" moment with Golriz Ghahraman's past in human rights law because she had worked as defense for people accused of genocide. She had been open about this before but hadn't included it in any of her bios, so a bunch of people are calling for her to resign as claiming that she is a genocide denier. It's ugly https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/344871/green-mp-under-scrutiny-for-role-in-rwandan-genocide-trials
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Nov 28, 2017 04:25
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Edit: ^^ Yeah, it seems to publish a lot of borderline conspiracy theories. On a completely different note, what is NZ's status regarding net neutrality?
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I'm just glad we could move on from people fundamentally misunderstanding politics to people fundamentally misunderstanding the justice system.
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