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BattleTech
Jun 6, 2010

Is this easy mode?
Fun Shoe
Is the the K9 the police urbanmech?

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TheParadigm
Dec 10, 2009

yes. Its also, from what i hear, a legit terrifying mech.

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

TheParadigm posted:

Scorch, Roughneck Hero, Linebacker hero(redline), Black Knight look to be decent at a glance. Anyone weigh in?

These are all ehhhhhhh. The Scorch is probably the best on that list and is the best brawling Clan assault if you don't have the MCII, but the Onion IIC is also very good and available for C-bills. Redline has a unique Ominpod, but it was only good before the SPL nerf. Partisan (BK Hero) is gimmicky crap and suffers from the dumb belly-belt mounts like all the other Black Knights.

BattleTech posted:

Is the the K9 the police urbanmech?

Yes.

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

TheParadigm posted:

yes. Its also, from what i hear, a legit terrifying mech.

I don't know about terrifying, but it's a robust laser platform. Ever since they normalized the quirks, Urbanmechs have become sturdy little brawlers, and the K-9 is the best among them.

Keep in mind; you cant play an Urbabnmech like a Wolfhound or Firestarter. They're not fast enough to poke butts or pick apart a flank. However, they be tanky as fuuuuuck, so if you stick with the deathball and treat them more like a tiny medium, they can do work.

Skippy McPants fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Nov 23, 2017

Rysithusiku
Nov 10, 2013

Witness the assless man and despair!
All futures point to a world of filled holes.
The K9 is best played with the siren on a macro loop, so it never stops blaring as you charge screaming into the legs of enemy assaults.

...i have this macro if you want it.

TheParadigm
Dec 10, 2009

Post it and put it in the OP. This is crucial goon material.

Cluncho McChunk
Aug 16, 2010

An informational void capable only of creating noise

The K9 might just be my favourite mech as almost every time I take it out I have a blast. I've rotated through a lot of builds for it until I eventually settled on a 5MPL build. This gives you the punch to do damage within your normal fighting ranges, cuts down on required burn time to let you twist more and survive more as the 30-ton assault that you are while still letting you reach out and poke people outside knife fight ranges. You are nimble enough that most assaults can't keep up with your circling and some heavies can't either, but you are at your best working with one of your team's big boys, using them as cover to shoot who they shoot while poking and swinging behind an enemy they are already facefighting and burning their back to the ground while bodyblocking so they can't retreat.

Also if your enemy is fresh out of a kindergarten paste-eating class, you might be able to do this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFHq7ftkfLo

Sterling_Archer
May 10, 2012

"What do you mean we're not in compliance?"

Trauma Tank posted:

The K9 might just be my favourite mech as almost every time I take it out I have a blast. I've rotated through a lot of builds for it until I eventually settled on a 5MPL build. This gives you the punch to do damage within your normal fighting ranges, cuts down on required burn time to let you twist more and survive more as the 30-ton assault that you are while still letting you reach out and poke people outside knife fight ranges. You are nimble enough that most assaults can't keep up with your circling and some heavies can't either, but you are at your best working with one of your team's big boys, using them as cover to shoot who they shoot while poking and swinging behind an enemy they are already facefighting and burning their back to the ground while bodyblocking so they can't retreat.

Also if your enemy is fresh out of a kindergarten paste-eating class, you might be able to do this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFHq7ftkfLo

lmao that guy had Ace of Spades.

TjyvTompa
Jun 1, 2001

im gay

Sterling_Archer posted:

lmao that guy had Ace of Spades.

Only bad players have Ace of Spades....:cry:

Commoners
Apr 25, 2007

Sometimes you reach a stalemate. Sometimes you get magic horses.
It looks like he had arm lock on, so he wasn't able to shoot up at you with his mpls. RIP.

Freakazoid_
Jul 5, 2013


Buglord
a good player is a moderate giver

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener
I've been playing with my K2 again.

I've got an XL315 + 2 UAC10's + 2 ER Med lasers on it. I nearly always get killed by centre torso hits so the XL seems to not make much difference.

It's fun and fairly effective as long as I'm not too drunk ;)

aniviron
Sep 11, 2014


I'm always sad that the best way to run the K2 is with ballistics instead of PPCs. For a while 2PPC/1Gauss was pretty decent if slow, but ghost heat killed that off. Two heavy PPCs on their own feels underwhelming for a 65 ton mech, and balancing odd numbers of PPCs, some of which are outside of the arms, feels awkward.

Lord Dudeguy
Sep 17, 2006
[Insert good English here]

aniviron posted:

I'm always sad that the best way to run the K2 is with ballistics instead of PPCs.

Boomcats and Dakkapults are fun. Embrace them.

aniviron
Sep 11, 2014


When I want a 65 ton IS ballistic platform it's going to be a Jagermech or Roughneck, or maybe even a Dragon.

Lonjon
Jun 26, 2007

Books are the real treasures of the world!
Fun Shoe

Commoners posted:

It looks like he had arm lock on, so he wasn't able to shoot up at you with his mpls. RIP.

I loving hate when I have arm lock on. It prevents me from shooting folks with my Minneapolis.

Also, if you have a good K9 constant siren macro please post it. Please double post it if there is a toggle key that lets me turn it on or off. A hotkey that allows me to roleplay a squad car is exactly the sort of thing I need to play this dumb game more often.

The Repo Man
Jul 31, 2013

I Remember...

Lonjon posted:

I loving hate when I have arm lock on. It prevents me from shooting folks with my Minneapolis.

Also, if you have a good K9 constant siren macro please post it. Please double post it if there is a toggle key that lets me turn it on or off. A hotkey that allows me to roleplay a squad car is exactly the sort of thing I need to play this dumb game more often.

If you turn the K9 siren on, you should also play the Police Squad/Naked Gun theme over voice as well. Or, set up a virtual audio cable and blare it that way.

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

aniviron posted:

I'm always sad that the best way to run the K2 is with ballistics instead of PPCs. For a while 2PPC/1Gauss was pretty decent if slow, but ghost heat killed that off.

Ghost heat didn't touch the 2 PPC/1 gauss builds at all. Those were finally killed by a combination of desyncing the projectile speeds and the gauss charge mechanic.

Goast
Jul 23, 2011

by VideoGames

Great Beer posted:

Ghost heat didn't touch the 2 PPC/1 gauss builds at all. Those were finally killed by a combination of desyncing the projectile speeds and the gauss charge mechanic.

I jumped in after a few months and was wondering why those builds played shittier while looking the same on paper.

Commoners
Apr 25, 2007

Sometimes you reach a stalemate. Sometimes you get magic horses.
Ghost heat is linked to PPCs now, so firing 2PPCs/1Gauss counts as ghost heat for the purposes of firing your PPCs. They did it because if you put the time into it you could completely dominate with builds using that, especially with the night gyr, kodiak, etc.

aniviron
Sep 11, 2014


Yeah, they definitely did add ghost heat to the gauss/PPC combo. I'm not talking out my rear end, have a gander at Smurfy's: http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/equipment if you hover over the little fire icon next to gauss rifle, it will inform you that there is a group penalty which is linked with PPCs. And because ghost heat always takes the highest heat weapon as the multiplier for the penalty, it's not a small increase, it's huge.

I was really good at charging gauss, firing PPC, and firing the gauss in the split second after it to land all 35 damage on the right spot consistently. The projectile speeds and charge time made it so you had to git gud to use PPC/gauss, but they definitely did not kill the combo. What killed it was making it more heat efficient to just fire 3 PPCs instead of 2 PPC 1 Gauss by linking gauss into the PPC ghost heat group.

Stringbean
Aug 6, 2010
I bought a DRG-FLAME. Not that it has any basis on the PPC/Gauss chat, but I thought I'd share that it's not complete garbage. That ballistics hardpoint on the left shoulder is awesome at cockpit level. I slapped a Gauss in it and can hump hills with the best of them. I'm wondering if I could get away with an AC20 build or a UAC20 build with it. I feel it makes a better long range support heavy though.

aniviron
Sep 11, 2014


:pgi: :pgi: :pgi: :pgi: :pgi: :pgi: The second faction play capital event tied as well apparently. :pgi: :pgi: :pgi: :pgi: :pgi: :pgi: :pgi:

johntherussian
Nov 12, 2012

Fallen Rib
From the brown sea.

TjyvTompa
Jun 1, 2001

im gay
The Roughneck whisperer is back boys. Had a vision during a zonked out session of random youtubes. What if I put MRMs on a Roughneck? Whoa! They don't call me the Mech Geniuse for nothing.

Feast your eyes on this bad boy: http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=536&l=e29a134e416bb602ddd67d2be7e75948ead847aa
No heat issues, no ammo issues, tanky as gently caress with maxxed out survival tree. It's got it all.

And of course I have the screenshots to back it up, I always back my boasts up with HARD FACTS!

Soloed the last 4 mechs, STK-3F, HBR-A (HLLs), ANH-1X and a 1 ACH-PRIME. You better believe I had to wipe my mouse off after that one.





Suck it haters.

TjyvTompa fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Nov 27, 2017

aniviron
Sep 11, 2014


I've been wanting to buy a Roughneck- they look cool, have high mounts, and good survival quirks, but every time I think about grinding out another 91 skill points my desire evaporates.

TheParadigm
Dec 10, 2009

I'm surprised they haven't gone and said 'mechs you buy with cash come fully skilled out'.

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

Why would they ever do that? The new skill system is probably making them a fair bit of money off impatient assholes like me who're willing to burn MC on converting XP so they can avoid playing lovely unskilled mechs.

Cause holy poo poo, have you tried playing a laser boat without Ops and Firepower? It is painful.

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

I'd give you my sp if I could. I'm still sitting on something like 1100 of the things. Can't be bothered to play.

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer
I'd sell my Founders account to some nerd for sweet $$$ except that the only people who play this still probably also have Founders accounts.

Riller
Jun 16, 2008

Rysithusiku posted:

The K9 is best played with the siren on a macro loop, so it never stops blaring as you charge screaming into the legs of enemy assaults.

...i have this macro if you want it.

I need this. I got in on this game at release but stopped playing when they added consumables, so it's probably been a couple of years since I've played. I picked up the K9 on sale after reading all the posts about it, and now I just need the macro for the full experience! TIA

BattleTech
Jun 6, 2010

Is this easy mode?
Fun Shoe
10 minutes of new Mech5:Mercs footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8WoNTHMoLc

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat

BattleTech posted:

10 minutes of new Mech5:Mercs footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8WoNTHMoLc



Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer
I like the PPC effects.

BattleTech
Jun 6, 2010

Is this easy mode?
Fun Shoe

Aww I was gonna gif the APC backflip, you beat me too it.

7c Nickel
Apr 27, 2008
At around 5:15 a helicopter blunders into the side of a building. The building breaks, but not the helicopter.

BattleTech
Jun 6, 2010

Is this easy mode?
Fun Shoe

7c Nickel posted:

At around 5:15 a helicopter blunders into the side of a building. The building breaks, but not the helicopter.

Steel beams can't melt helicopters.

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat
The Catapult also wrecked a bunch of buildings trying to path through them to reach the player.

Commoners
Apr 25, 2007

Sometimes you reach a stalemate. Sometimes you get magic horses.
Atlas pilot was recruited directly from T5. He smashed into a building, player ran around it, he chased after the player, smashed into another building. Eventually the player ended up in front of him, he fired one medium laser, and then ran into another building.

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Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule
One Shadow Hawk vs. something like 300 tons of enemies, hmmm

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