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khy posted:I don't condone this but honestly I really am having a difficult time working up any sympathy for him either.
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Best case he will get rid of their common carrier status but with a year long "phase out" period so maybe everyone forgets. Alternately so the 2018 elections sort of seal the coffin on the topic if Ds lose / Give him a platform to be loudly idealistic with no consequences if Ds win.
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Stop polluting space. we have a perfectly good ocean they can be thrown in, or perhaps a very deep mine, or a volcano. If you put them in space then someone will likely find them again one day. And imagine what aliens would think of us if their first contact with humanity was that bag of turds... 
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Nov 28, 2017 10:12
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khy posted:Ajit Pai is also apparently suffering from Harassment. I think I'm about 80% ok with it.
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Nov 28, 2017 11:48
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Pai and everyone involved with him deserve whatever ill fortunes they receive.
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Oh no, they....put up publicly available information on a cardboard sign outside his publicly listed house. It's not exactly doxxing. If it was like "here's the schedules of pai's children, hope nothing happens" I'd be all , but this is just wiki info.
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Neurolimal posted:Oh no, they....put up publicly available information on a cardboard sign outside his publicly listed house. It's still creepy and intended to be creepy.
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Nov 28, 2017 12:52
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I guess I just have a higher bar for creepy info when it comes to public figures. If anything the sign has a point: is a world where free speech democratic organization that much harder what he wants to hand off to his kids? To put the "my dad killed free & fair internet" albatross around their neck?
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Not that it really matters, but putting Pai's kids' names on the sign just feeds his feigned concern/ignorance of why the internet needs to be controlled/pay-walled.
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Nov 28, 2017 13:04
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Neurolimal posted:I guess I just have a higher bar for creepy info when it comes to public figures. If anything the sign has a point: is a world where free speech democratic organization that much harder what he wants to hand off to his kids? To put the "my dad killed free & fair internet" albatross around their neck? And you think Pai wants a world where Wikipedia can continue to exist on donations? Sinclairpedia, sponsored by Xfinity, will definitely be shutting that site down.
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Chilichimp posted:It's still creepy and intended to be creepy. Well tbh the government should fear the people.
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GOP is proposing a 20% tax on Puerto Rican imports to the US Mainland.
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CommieGIR posted:GOP is proposing a 20% tax on Puerto Rican imports to the US Mainland. This is maybe one of the worst ideas they've ever had, and that's really saying something.
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Neurolimal posted:I guess I just have a higher bar for creepy info when it comes to public figures. If anything the sign has a point: is a world where free speech democratic organization that much harder what he wants to hand off to his kids? To put the "my dad killed free & fair internet" albatross around their neck? I do like the idea of continually sending him pizzas though.
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Nov 28, 2017 13:58
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CommieGIR posted:GOP is proposing a 20% tax on Puerto Rican imports to the US Mainland. They really want the Puerto Ricans to declare independence don't they?
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CommieGIR posted:GOP is proposing a 20% tax on Puerto Rican imports to the US Mainland. Are internal US tariffs even a thing? I thought there was a constitutional ban on that kind of thing. edit, oh wait, that's between states
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khy posted:Ajit Pai is also apparently suffering from Harassment. Oh no! They sent pizza to his house! The horror! The HORROR!!
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hangedman1984 posted:Oh no! They sent pizza to his house! The horror! The HORROR!! he's lactose intolerant and it had extra cheese
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Condiv posted:he's lactose intolerant and it had extra cheese so it's attempted murder then. 
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hangedman1984 posted:Oh no! They sent pizza to his house! The horror! The HORROR!! You can read it as a "we know where you live" type threat.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:You can read it as a "we know where you live" type threat. or maybe even this kind of threat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB871SVYMhI&t=42s
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Chilichimp posted:It's still creepy and intended to be creepy. It is, and also the temperature is very clearly rising in the US and the traditional limits of politics are clearly being broken down.
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Nov 28, 2017 14:48
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I saw briefly something about a write in candidate in Alabama, some former aide to John Kelly. Supposedly he’s running independently, but...when would we find out if he’s got RNC support, if any? I’m super curious if he’s an ‘official’ spoiler candidate.
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MoaM posted:Not that it really matters, but putting Pai's kids' names on the sign just feeds his feigned concern/ignorance of why the internet needs to be controlled/pay-walled. I think that involving the kids is unnecessary and ill-advised but the rest is fine.
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Nov 28, 2017 15:05
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Condiv posted:or maybe even this kind of threat: Ok I was wrong: ending the internet would be good
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Lightning Knight posted:I think that involving the kids is unnecessary and ill-advised but the rest is fine. If the people are trying to change his mind (and assuming that doing so could lead to reversal of the decision), then I'd agree. If they're just trying to punish him by ruining his family life, then I have no complaint.
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MizPiz posted:If the people are trying to change his mind (and assuming that doing so could lead to reversal of the decision), then I'd agree. If they're just trying to punish him by ruining his family life, then I have no complaint. Bleh, I don’t think that targeting children for political activism like that is necessary or valuable and just ends up making the aggressive party look bad even if the defensive party is the bad one. There’s also been a lot of racism tied up in the response to him, predictably, which is also not ok. He’s just going to hide behind “the mean libs are triggered about my plan to make the internet more competitive and innovative  “ and people who don’t understand net neutrality (I.e. most people) will just see people posting this poo poo aimed at his kids and side with him.
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if you target kids you are loving scum
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Seems less like any sort of dangerous targeting and more "is this what you want your kids to know you for?" I don't think any weird stalkers are going to be empowered by the fact that the cardboard sign maker googled his kids' first names. If one wanted to go further in defending the sign, you could make the argument that his children are in the best position out of anybody to convince him, and should not complacently live in a bubble from their father's actions. It's not like they're 50 years old and the internet is some weird mystery entity to them. (caveat: I have no idea how old they actually are, if they're like 5 then disregard this)
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MoaM posted:Not that it really matters, but putting Pai's kids' names on the sign just feeds his feigned concern/ignorance of why the internet needs to be controlled/pay-walled. ending net neutrality won't make it magically impossible to figure out the names of public officials' kids
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Nah I don’t agree at all, it’s both scummy and bad from a strategy perspective. They should’ve just plastered his picture everywhere with the subtitle “Trump appointed this man to make you pay more for the same internet” and let his neighbors be pissed at him. Involving the kids wasn’t necessary and is honestly just lovely on top of being ineffective.
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At the same time though, attempting to shame people who make a career out of being lovely and hated aren't going to suddenly stop when you go "this guy is lovely and hated!". He's well aware how it makes him look when he accused mass net neutrality support of being bots (while that happens for anti-NN) If you want to shame someone for being a clown you wouldn't go "that guy's such a clown!", you'd hit him where it hurts. And if their kids aren't stopping him from squirting water from his flower on peoples' papers then they're fair game, being the closest and most influential to him.
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Neurolimal posted:At the same time though, attempting to shame people who make a career out of being lovely and hated aren't going to suddenly stop when you go "this guy is lovely and hated!". He's well aware how it makes him look when he accused mass net neutrality support of being bots (while that happens for anti-NN) Nah it’s not his kids’ responsibility to deal with his lovely politics, what is wrong with you? He’s 44, how old do you think his kids are? His kids aren’t going to end net neutrality, nor is he going to change his mind because people involved his kids. You can advocate for harassment tactics all you like and I’m ok with that but defending the involvement of the kids is inexplicable to me, it is both lovely and isn’t going to accomplish anything.
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Lightning Knight posted:Nah it’s not his kids’ responsibility to deal with his lovely politics, what is wrong with you? He’s 44, how old do you think his kids are? His kids aren’t going to end net neutrality, nor is he going to change his mind because people involved his kids. Seriously, his kids probably don't even know what he does for a living and couldn't tell you if you held a gun to their heads other than 'daddy works for the government.' Maybe. Order all the pizzas you want, just leave his kids out of it.
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Why are y'all acting like you're talking to the people who did it? No one here attacked this man's kids. So going "This is wrong and no one should ever do it" seems loving pointless, who do you think your audience is?
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Alter Ego posted:I do like the idea of continually sending him pizzas though. It worked for Joe Biden.
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mynnna posted:I saw briefly something about a write in candidate in Alabama, some former aide to John Kelly. Supposedly he’s running independently, but...when would we find out if he’s got RNC support, if any? I’m super curious if he’s an ‘official’ spoiler candidate. He's not going to get RNC support because an officially sanctioned write-in spoiler is practically guaranteed to hand the election to Jones.
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WampaLord posted:Why are y'all acting like you're talking to the people who did it? Well this is the same forum that predicted Joe Biden as Obama's VP choice via unsolicited pizza delivery... EDIT: Dammit Instant Sunrise, well played!
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WampaLord posted:Why are y'all acting like you're talking to the people who did it? This is an argument against any political discussion on the forums, almost.
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Lightning Knight posted:This is an argument against any political discussion on the forums, almost. Not really, I just don't see the point in you wagging your fingers and going "shame on these people" when they're not around for you to yell at.
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