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nesbit37 posted:Thanks for all the suggestions, those all look like great options. Here's a related question. I have access to a laser cutter with a 12"x24" bed. Do any of you know of any decent AI files, free or sold, for laser cutting out Necromunda terrain? I don't know how good you are with Corel (I assume that's what you still use for laser cutting?) but there are scans of the original NM terrain out there. You could make yourself a really sharp looking OG NM table from MDF PDQ IMO. Sorry. I had to do that. Can you get access to that super thin MDF? I was looking around in the US, and it's pretty rare, as far as I can tell - most of the places that carried it were in the UK and shipping was prohibitively expensive.
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nesbit37 posted:Thanks for all the suggestions, those all look like great options. Here's a related question. I have access to a laser cutter with a 12"x24" bed. Do any of you know of any decent AI files, free or sold, for laser cutting out Necromunda terrain? There's a guy on Patreon called Marchen Play who does plans and has a giant set of platform and gantry scenery. I give him a couple bucks every time he puts out a plan. I really like his work. https://www.patreon.com/marchen/posts
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What is super thin? Based on what I got from Promethium, I think they are actually using clipboard blanks as their cutting base - so you might want to consider looking outside raw suppliers for functional equivalents.
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berzerkmonkey posted:I don't know how good you are with Corel (I assume that's what you still use for laser cutting?) but there are scans of the original NM terrain out there. You could make yourself a really sharp looking OG NM table from MDF PDQ IMO. Sorry. I had to do that. I actually use Adobe Illustrator for this, but it would be totally doable, if I had scans of the NM terrain, to just trace them and do laser cuts that way. I may try and do that... Seconding Ashcans, what do you mean by superthin? Is it actually MDF or are you talking about chipboard (the same stuff board game pieces are made out of)?
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Beerdeer posted:There's a guy on Patreon called Marchen Play who does plans and has a giant set of platform and gantry scenery. I give him a couple bucks every time he puts out a plan. I really like his work. This looks pretty promising, though I wish you could get a preview pic of the stuff that is for patreons only. I would totally throw him some bucks if I knew what I was getting for it.
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Started painting necro. Put a layer of Rarkarth Flesh on two goaliaths, threw soem Reichland Fleshtone on top, scared to proceed. Will try to follow the steps in the WD painting guide, see if it works better than "block out the entire miniature, be disgusted at how it looks, finish painting it all a month later"
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I saw they're doing a gang painting contest, but do I need to be on FB to enter?
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nesbit37 posted:Seconding Ashcans, what do you mean by superthin? Is it actually MDF or are you talking about chipboard (the same stuff board game pieces are made out of)?
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LashLightning posted:Does that include that £18 Gor-bountyhunter? Cuz bugger me sideways, that's a lot of money for a singular dude and I was just thinking of taking a Wargames Foundry metal beastman and kit-bashing some stuff from the bitz-box rather than pony up the money for that. As was mentioned, that's a FW resin, that's just how FW rolls. The thing with specialist games at the moment is that to make their projects satisfying and affordable for customers, meet the internal expectation of quality (no cardboard buildings), and actually get product produced in quantity, they are having to make things primarily in plastic. This presents a huge problem (caused by their success) in that they are borrowing time on Citadel's production line. They also desperately need more plastic designers who are technically qualified, willing to work for FW money, and willing to live in the blighted poo poo hole that is Nottingham. And those are not common. So unless and until they have covered the cost of their own production tools and can absorb the cost of a failure, they live and die on the success of each project. Which is just the reality of business. It's only the benevolence of the parent company that is even letting them try to do what they are with these games.
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:As was mentioned, that's a FW resin, that's just how FW rolls. If you've got any more neat tidbits like this keep 'em coming, makes up for the lack of announcements this year.
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Got my NM box tonight and realized that I'm missing the range ruler. Anyone else missing theirs? Is it stuck is some weird spot and I'm just missing it? And is there one or two? Also, was there a NM poster in the box, or just the model instructions/separator?
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Played the last match of the BB season last night. Necro vs Lizards, which is a horrible match up for Necro - against most teams they have a strength or speed advantage, but Lizards outclass them in both areas. Low point was losing two Wolves and a Flesh Golem to Sweltering Heat at the start of the second half. Had to score INCREDIBLY quickly so I could bring them back onto the pitch. Still, managed to hold on for a 2-1 victory at the last whistle. Would have been 3-1 if my Wolves could have picked up the bloody ball in either of the last two turns. Topped the table, so that gives me a bye for the first round of the play-offs... where I'll either be facing Skaven or the brutal Undead player I've already had to face once this season. I'm praying for the Skaven to go through.
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Played a fun game of Blood Bowl where I was reminded why I play Blood Bowl. My best vampire rerolled his death into death with an apothecary, then managed to regen. Chaos did manage to kill my only Thrall with a skill on one of the first blocks of the game. Two MVPs wasted!  Praise Nuffle.
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glitchkrieg posted:Played the last match of the BB season last night. Necro vs Lizards, which is a horrible match up for Necro - against most teams they have a strength or speed advantage, but Lizards outclass them in both areas. Are byes good to have? Seems like you'd get screwed on advancement
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Lord_Hambrose posted:Played a fun game of Blood Bowl where I was reminded why I play Blood Bowl. My best vampire rerolled his death into death with an apothecary, then managed to regen. Chaos did manage to kill my only Thrall with a skill on one of the first blocks of the game. Two MVPs wasted! That was a very fun game. It was unfortunate that you couldn't stop sucking off your men the whole game though. It made things significantly easier for me to lock the ball down.
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Having received my NM set and Gang War, I have to say that I am very disappointed in GW's decision to split these up. The 3-D battlefield section in Gang War is literally 5 pages, mostly images, and could have easily been added to the core rules under "Advanced Rules" or "Hey - you have a Sector Mechanicus kit? Check this poo poo out!" without alienating any first time players. Hell, it might get them psyched for playing "real" NM. To add to that, who thought it was a good idea to make one set of stats for the 2-D version, then tell people to toss them out the window if playing on a 3-D table? I'm late to this particular discussion, but I have to side with the MWG guy who said he was really disappointed. I am really having a hard time understanding why the guy had to do an apology video, since everything he said was pretty much spot on. I was really psyched for this release, and now I'm kind of bummed upon seeing the result.
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Ashcans posted:I didn't realize that there were different sets of stats for the two versions. What's the difference? I think stuff is cheaper in Underhive as it's meant to be for one-off games vs. a campaign.
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moths posted:Wasn't the apology for getting all the rules wrong and making the game look awful? No, it was for bad talking the game and talking over and interrupting the guy that was with him. I don't think he was being a jerk about anything, and was rightly annoyed at being on the losing side of the game 5 out of 6 times. I haven't watched the batreps, but they were talking about how badly his game was outclassed in terms of the stats. His opponent caused more casualties to his own gang than he did. The last game was a win for him because he got tabled so fast that his opponent didn't have time to get to the objectives. berzerkmonkey fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Dec 2, 2017 |
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berzerkmonkey posted:Having received my NM set and Gang War, I have to say that I am very disappointed in GW's decision to split these up. The 3-D battlefield section in Gang War is literally 5 pages, mostly images, and could have easily been added to the core rules under "Advanced Rules" or "Hey - you have a Sector Mechanicus kit? Check this poo poo out!" without alienating any first time players. Hell, it might get them psyched for playing "real" NM. To add to that, who thought it was a good idea to make one set of stats for the 2-D version, then tell people to toss them out the window if playing on a 3-D table? far be it from gw to wring every red cent they can from their customers i watched the mwg video that caused all the hubbub and the dude wasnt out of line at any point. mostly seemed to be people getting their panties in a twist because he wasnt pleased with the game out of the box
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TheChirurgeon posted:Are byes good to have? Seems like you'd get screwed on advancement Depends if your objective is team advancement or to win the playoffs. One less chance to be knocked out. I'm in the same situation where I topped our TT league division, so get a bye on the first round of playoffs. Having been knocked out at that stage before I'm very happy for the bye this time round!
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:far be it from gw to wring every red cent they can from their customers As I said the other day, one failed game can, at this point, end the the Specialist Games revival project. If they need to use the current model of charging money for products to continue then I'm okay with that.
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MWG has the Vault, which is a two-tier paywall: silver gets you all the gaems and many of the painting tuts, gold gets all the tuts too. So Matthew probably feels the need to prostrate himself before the OMG UNSUBSCRIB!!1! masses so as not to lose money or whatever. I hate it when youtubers do that.
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bonds0097 posted:I think stuff is cheaper in Underhive as it's meant to be for one-off games vs. a campaign. Oh I thought it meant model stats, like there were two different profiles for units/weapons depending on the version (which would hosed up and a total mess). Changing weapon or gear costs is also not great, but not a complete disaster.
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Just checked, the model stats and costs are the same, while the weapon prices are super different. Also, Brute cleaver doesn't make an appearance in Underhive Armory in gangwar book, while all the fancy Escher gear does. Kinda annoying.
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It sort of makes sense to value gear differently for campaign vs. one-off missions and particularly for use in a confined zone mortalis type space vs more open 3D area. I'll have to get a bunch of games in both ways to figure out if its annoying or good.
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:As I said the other day, one failed game can, at this point, end the the Specialist Games revival project. If they need to use the current model of charging money for products to continue then I'm okay with that. And that's fine, and I totally defended GW's explanation as to why they split the game up. But after seeing both the base game and Gang War, I feel that it was less of a "we don't want to alienate new players" and more "we can wring $30 extra out of people for the game they really want to play." They could have easily charged $15 extra and combined the base rules and Gang War and NM17 would have been a good release. This DLC format worked with Blood Bowl because they didn't change the game - regardless if you have Death Zone or not, teams play the same. You can still play your buddy if you only own the base BB and he wants to run a team from DZ. DZ is completely optional, whereas Gang War really isn't. You can argue that it is optional, but most people are going to want to play on a 3-D surface. I'm all for GW (especially Specialist Games) making money and putting out more stuff, but withholding those crucial 5 pages and charging a premium for them was pretty crappy on their part. Gang War should have been strictly campaign rules and about $10 cheaper.
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Eifert Posting posted:I thought it was a bit of a cash grab so I just bought it off a 3rd party website with a ~20% discount. You'd have to be mad to buy GW products straight from the source - unless it was something that online retailers don't carry. Apparently there's going to be a bounty hunter gang in a white dwarf next year (along with the two cult gangs, all probably in different issues), thinking I'll get a box of tempestus scions and then use a ganger or two from each house for it. Probably going to hold off on getting any more gang war books though and hope they do an almanac next year but if they're releasing a gang war with every new gang then the 4th quarter gang (Delaque I believe) will probably be too recent for them to have a collected edition out that year.
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MrFlibble posted:You'd have to be mad to buy GW products straight from the source - unless it was something that online retailers don't carry. On a side note, I really wish the US didn't have bullshit laws that allow GW (and others) to demand retailers keep pricing at a certain point. Getting a maximum of 15% off sucks when you hear that UK retailers offer up to a 25% discount coupled with cheaper prices when you factor in the exchange rate.
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MrFlibble posted:You'd have to be mad to buy GW products straight from the source - unless it was something that online retailers don't carry. I do it when I want to keep the local store in business so I have a place to play, but in general it's hard to see a point in paying full price.l
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