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Rugoberta Munchu posted:Meanwhile on YouTube they are eating their own. This is the weirdest poo poo I have ever seen.
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Rugoberta Munchu posted:Meanwhile on YouTube they are eating their own. summary for those of us without youtube?
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Nov 28, 2017 02:25
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Mr Interweb posted:summary for those of us without youtube? A cartoon bat and the worlds most pathetic nerd get into an arguement over a cartoon bulls antisemitism.
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Nov 28, 2017 02:26
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Pros: thinning the ranks may weed out the shittier YouTube intellectuals. Cons: making it potentially more difficult to discredit because their message is more coherent and the messenger less terrible.
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Nov 28, 2017 02:26
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OwlFancier posted:When you believe that you cannot help but see detestable injustice being actively perpetrated against every human being you meet every moment of their lives. It is automatically radicalizing. Which is why I don't trust people who identify as leftist but lack that conviction. Something doesn't add up. All strands of the economic left I know of, recognize that fundamental truth, that the status quo is not just passively suboptimal, it is actively taking from people. It is not a thing to be improved when convenient, it is a crime to be stopped. This is a really good way to put it. Like, regardless of the specific things they say, the specific nature of their reaction betrays how they really feel. It's not that liberals* can't understand real injustice - as I mentioned before, many react with appropriate urgency towards things like bigotry (though this is usually limited to younger liberals; older ones are also kind of poo poo on social issues) - but that they just obviously don't think issues of material inequality are as serious or important. *One thing I should mention is that when I say "liberals" here I'm specifically referring to people aware of the whole leftist/liberal debate who choose to not identify as leftist. Many, and probably a majority of, liberals are just choosing what is obviously the better of the two most prominent and visible ideologies in the US. I can't really fault these people, because they generally don't know much about the left and aren't really making a conscious choice to reject it. They just see how bad Republicans are and make the reasonable choice to oppose them. Even if they do know about the radical left, it's usually a skewed and biased image, particularly among older generations. But on the SA forums, and D&D in particular, most liberals probably have enough familiarity with leftists/the radical left that rejecting it is an actual choice on their part.
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Nov 28, 2017 03:50
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I watched part of some other video that cartoon bat man did criticising No Bullshit and the examples of him debating people (from about the 6 minute mark) are remarkably bad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBnLUPyeFtU
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Nov 28, 2017 03:56
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Rugoberta Munchu posted:Meanwhile on YouTube they are eating their own. this is far and away the worst stupid avatar any of these guys use holy poo poo
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Nov 28, 2017 04:47
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Josef bugman posted:A cartoon bat and the worlds most pathetic nerd get into an arguement over a cartoon bulls antisemitism. I see. Are any of these people involved (well, minus NB) actually good people in any way?
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Nov 28, 2017 04:56
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noether posted:this is far and away the worst stupid avatar any of these guys use holy poo poo i dunno, it's pretty normal to use a, uh *squints* head of lettuce hastily spray painted black
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Nov 28, 2017 05:01
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Mr Interweb posted:I see. Are any of these people involved (well, minus NB) actually good people in any way? nah
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Nov 28, 2017 05:13
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The bat is really poorly drawn
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Nov 28, 2017 05:52
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I still think Mr. Dapperton is worse because he went through all that effort to look "cool" (like an outfit slapped together for a cosplay convention).
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Nov 28, 2017 06:41
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Krotera posted:The bat is really poorly drawn whaddaya mean, "other tools?" the circle tool is the only one I need!
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Nov 28, 2017 07:18
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Krotera posted:The bat is really poorly drawn Straight from the local bat's mouth 
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Nov 28, 2017 07:51
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Rugoberta Munchu posted:I still think Mr. Dapperton is worse because he went through all that effort to look "cool" (like an outfit slapped together for a cosplay convention). Oh my god it took me this long to realise Dappterton is mean to be an anarcho-capitalist symbol as a mask Like, as a design element, if it were just that, it'd be pretty okay, but then there's the random little red lines, and the blue suit, and the monocle and cane and gloves and hat (all worn while indoors, natch), and it's just so painfully someone's high school notebook doodle that I can't even begin to take him seriously If I were in a discussion with him I'd just go full ad hominem and question every pathetically faux-masculine character design decision, I wouldn't be able to stop myself
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Nov 28, 2017 11:34
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Does he really complain about teachers and tests?
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Nov 28, 2017 11:56
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Ancaps are sad parodies of human beings, so probably.
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Nov 28, 2017 12:00
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Yardbomb posted:Ancaps are sad parodies of human beings, so probably. Ancaps, at best, think that capitalism has reached enough forward momentum that they can rip the wheels, brakes, power steering, and unibody of the car they're riding in and just lash themselves to the now hurtling engine block and be just fine. However, they fail to account for the fact that the car was speeding towards a cliff.
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Nov 28, 2017 13:11
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Mr Interweb posted:summary for those of us without youtube? Battening made a video about how No Bullshit said some problematic/antisemitic stuff, then someone else made a video defending No Bullshit, so Battening made a video to defend his initial video. The stuff No Bullshit said that people are defending: "Hitler did nothing wrong", getting into a weird twitter slapfight with someone who lost family in the Holocaust, complaining about multiculturalism in movies. People are defending this by saying No Bullshit is a parody conservative account, or that he was just joking. Also Battening takes the cake for the worst intro of any of these YouTube bloggers
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Nov 28, 2017 14:44
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Rugoberta Munchu posted:Meanwhile on YouTube they are eating their own. Jesus this is so illegible. I want to see more layers, more white guys who talk almost the same each one with a progressively stupidshit ava... *looks around SA* oh no
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Nov 28, 2017 14:50
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Verisimilidude posted:Also Battening takes the cake for the worst intro of any of these YouTube bloggers 
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Nov 28, 2017 15:09
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Guavanaut posted:I assume the intro is part of how to become a parody Brilliant. Also apparently Destiny debated No Bullshit not too long ago, and recently put out this much shorter highlight video. It's amazing. Here's the full video. It's a massacre. Destiny is defending the stance that incest is morally neutral, and No Bullshit is arguing that incest is wrong. Verisimilidude fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Nov 28, 2017 |
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Nov 28, 2017 15:39
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I want to watch that but I don't want to know what youtube's going to recommend me if I watch videos about incest.
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Nov 28, 2017 16:15
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OwlFancier posted:I want to watch that but I don't want to know what youtube's going to recommend me if I watch videos about incest. The soy boy diet apparently....
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Nov 28, 2017 16:17
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Verisimilidude posted:Destiny is defending the stance that incest is morally neutral, Wat. I thought it was morally inept?
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Nov 28, 2017 16:39
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Strongly correlated with immoral (abusive) behavior, at the very least.
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Nov 28, 2017 16:44
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Goon Danton posted:Strongly correlated with immoral (abusive) behavior, at the very least. I think this is the point No Bullshit is trying to arrive at. Destiny holds the stance that incest is ultimately bad, and he's defending the stance that "incest is morally neutral" for the sake of the debate.
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Nov 28, 2017 16:52
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loving goons. Avenging_Mikon posted:Wat. "No, morally inept was dogs, not cousins." There.
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Nov 28, 2017 16:59
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Yeah it's quite possible to construct an argument either way, the funny bit is that youtube opinion man can't do that.
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Nov 28, 2017 16:59
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The topic of that debate was irrelevant, really. The joke is that Destiny knows what a debate is & NB doesn't, so Destiny could just lead him around in circles & watch him say silly things.
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Nov 28, 2017 17:06
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Goon Danton posted:Strongly correlated with immoral (abusive) behavior, at the very least. Verisimilidude posted:I think this is the point No Bullshit is trying to arrive at. Destiny holds the stance that incest is ultimately bad, and he's defending the stance that "incest is morally neutral" for the sake of the debate. The way I heard it Destiny was saying that incest is morally neutral but that its the imbalance in power that often accompanies these relationships (parent and child for example) that is problematic. NBS's arguments were along the lines of "it's wrong because it wrong", its icky, and they will have freakish babies.
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fallenturtle posted:The way I heard it Destiny was saying that incest is morally neutral but that its the imbalance in power that often accompanies these relationships (parent and child for example) that is problematic. That's pretty much the best reading you can get of it really, it's the authority and age gaps that can be present in the relationships that make it a problem, not some "Ewww" factor. If two consenting adults who are related want to get together, sure it's odd but who cares, it's not hurting anyone and not really anyone else's business, even the "But the hypothetical children!" thing has shown to be a poor argument the more we've learned, because even if they did, it takes more than one instance of relatives screwing to give you Charles II.
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Nov 28, 2017 18:10
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Verisimilidude posted:Brilliant. I got almost four minutes into the highlight reel, and hit the "bluh bluh bluh bluh, I'm steven, I have stupid fans" bit. This is incredible. 
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Nov 28, 2017 18:11
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I really liked this Rational Disconnect video on No Bullshit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RP6C-0DLLI
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Nov 28, 2017 18:43
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Verisimilidude posted:Also Battening takes the cake for the worst intro of any of these YouTube bloggers
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Nov 28, 2017 19:00
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It moves like it's chasing you in a laggy mmo.
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Yardbomb posted:"But the hypothetical children!" thing has shown to be a poor argument the more we've learned, because even if they did, it takes more than one instance of relatives screwing to give you Charles II. Back when I believed morals and ethics were natural things that could be derived and discovered with almighty science, I used to be against incest on the basis of genetic defects... Until I learned the increased risk in cases other than parent/child inbreeding is comparable to a 35-40-year-old woman conceiving. Given I could never suggest a 35-40 year old women should be banned from conceiving, I couldn't justify banning incest even with my braindead objectivist epistemology. Nowadays I just don't have a problem with any non-exploitative incestuous relationships because, well... Live and let live I guess?
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Nov 28, 2017 19:46
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it's loving weird. but it's not loving strange.
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Nov 28, 2017 19:53
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Kamrat posted:I really liked this Rational Disconnect video on No Bullshit: I'm always impressed by how NBS is able to express absolutely stupid thoughts with complete and utter certainty. it's like a superpower or something
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noether posted:I'm always impressed by how NBS is able to express absolutely stupid thoughts with complete and utter certainty. it's like a superpower or something all white men have this power
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