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Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
Question about the Imp Gunboat. Say you are running the one that has the title that lets you fire missiles even after you slam. Say you move 2 then slam two more does that count as a 4 move for cruise missiles?

The card reads "You may roll additional attack dice equal to the speed of the maneuver you executed this round" That seems like some bad FFG wording to me since slam is considered a maneuver. My opinion is that only the last move would count not both. As usual, I am probably wrong.

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Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



Cinnamon Bear posted:

How is the Upsilon Shuttle?

I'm trying to work out purchasing enough new trilogy ships to have a 100pt list for each side. Resistance is easy between TFA Core + Heroes of the Resistance, but I'm having more difficulty coming up with something out of the First Order stuff thats been released. Really curious about the TIE Silencer, since otherwise I'm thinking the answer is either Upsilon+TIE/fo or TIE/sf or just lots more TIE/fos.

I’ve had real good luck running the lower skilled named pilots with either Hux or Kylo as crew. The 4-dice primary goes a good ways towards persuading people to stay away from your arc, and it goes well with 2 TIE/SFs.

Friction
Aug 15, 2001

Icon Of Sin posted:

I’ve had real good luck running the lower skilled named pilots with either Hux or Kylo as crew. The 4-dice primary goes a good ways towards persuading people to stay away from your arc, and it goes well with 2 TIE/SFs.

Never not Stridan.

Omega Squadron Pilot (17)
Snap Shot (2)

Omega Squadron Pilot (17)
Snap Shot (2)

Omega Squadron Pilot (17)
Snap Shot (2)

Major Stridan (32)
Fire-Control System (2)
Operations Specialist (3)
General Hux (5)

Total: 99

View in Yet Another Squad Builder

Focus for days.

hoiyes
May 17, 2007

Raged posted:

Question about the Imp Gunboat. Say you are running the one that has the title that lets you fire missiles even after you slam. Say you move 2 then slam two more does that count as a 4 move for cruise missiles?

The card reads "You may roll additional attack dice equal to the speed of the maneuver you executed this round" That seems like some bad FFG wording to me since slam is considered a maneuver. My opinion is that only the last move would count not both. As usual, I am probably wrong.

There's a similar issue with a TLT attacking Viktor Hel with a stealth device. If the TLT hits on the first attack, does the attacker receive a stress, as Hel defends with 3 dice first then two.

hoiyes
May 17, 2007
Someone please try 4 Nu Gunboats with the missile title, unguided rockets and advanced slam, once you get a lock they're like a striker on steroids.

enigmahfc
Oct 10, 2003

EFF TEE DUB!!
EFF TEE DUB!!

Raged posted:

Question about the Imp Gunboat. Say you are running the one that has the title that lets you fire missiles even after you slam. Say you move 2 then slam two more does that count as a 4 move for cruise missiles?

The card reads "You may roll additional attack dice equal to the speed of the maneuver you executed this round" That seems like some bad FFG wording to me since slam is considered a maneuver. My opinion is that only the last move would count not both. As usual, I am probably wrong.

I would assume you would count the maneuver as a 2....since you did a 2. It doesn't say anything about combining moves.

Seldom Posts
Jul 4, 2010

Grimey Drawer

Friction posted:

Never not Stridan.

Omega Squadron Pilot (17)
Snap Shot (2)

Omega Squadron Pilot (17)
Snap Shot (2)

Omega Squadron Pilot (17)
Snap Shot (2)

Major Stridan (32)
Fire-Control System (2)
Operations Specialist (3)
General Hux (5)

Total: 99

View in Yet Another Squad Builder

Focus for days.

This is the version I run, Omega Ace mini swarm--he reliably gets off 4 crit shots, plus the four dice on the upislon and fanatical devotion on one of the epsilons is a lot of damage. You use the remaining 3 points to season it to your taste, sometimes I put a stealth device on OA, or put two pattern analyzers on the Epsilons instead, since OA can get his focus and TL from the Upsilon but they need their evade actions for him to fire the swarm leader shot.


Epsilon Squadron Pilot (15)

Epsilon Squadron Pilot (15)

"Omega Ace" (20)
Swarm Leader (3)
Pattern Analyzer (2)

Major Stridan (32)
Fire-Control System (2)
General Hux (5)
Targeting Synchronizer (3)

Total: 97

View in Yet Another Squad Builder

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you
Man, I feel like Hux hasn't had his day yet.

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



canyoneer posted:

Man, I feel like Hux hasn't had his day yet.

One of the guys I normally play says he fears my Hux list more than my Kylo list. That being said, I’ve had better luck with this one:

Exp2 (100)

•Lieutenant Dormitz (37) - Upsilon-class Shuttle
Collision Detector (0), •Kylo Ren (3), Hyperwave Comm Scanner (1), •Kylo Ren's Shuttle (2)

•"Quickdraw" (32) - TIE/SF Fighter
Collision Detector (0), Hyperwave Comm Scanner (1), Special Ops Training (0), Lightweight Frame (2)

•"Backdraft" (31) - TIE/SF Fighter
Veteran Instincts (1), Collision Detector (0), Hyperwave Comm Scanner (1), Special Ops Training (0), Lightweight Frame (2)

Everyone deploys at PS12, the SFs get a focus for deploying near the shuttle, then get another one when they do their focus action later on. Range 2 ahead of the shuttle + a speed 4 move forward almost guarantees a first-turn engagement with something and sometimes even a kill :getin:

Cinnamon Bear
Aug 29, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
Thanks for all the great Upsilon shuttle ideas, I'm looking forward to taking it for a spin!

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



My best piece of advice for the Upsilon is to keep the upgrades to a minimum. You can balloon the thing out to over 50 points if you want to (Kylo pilot + Hux crew can be hilarious, true), but in my experience so far it has served better as a support platform than anything else. Backdraft at PS9 is decent enough to start with, but when you start throwing out PS0 crits with Kylo he starts to get downright ugly.

lazerus06
May 19, 2004

Seldom Posts posted:

This is the version I run, Omega Ace mini swarm--he reliably gets off 4 crit shots, plus the four dice on the upislon and fanatical devotion on one of the epsilons is a lot of damage. You use the remaining 3 points to season it to your taste, sometimes I put a stealth device on OA, or put two pattern analyzers on the Epsilons instead, since OA can get his focus and TL from the Upsilon but they need their evade actions for him to fire the swarm leader shot.


Epsilon Squadron Pilot (15)

Epsilon Squadron Pilot (15)

"Omega Ace" (20)
Swarm Leader (3)
Pattern Analyzer (2)

Major Stridan (32)
Fire-Control System (2)
General Hux (5)
Targeting Synchronizer (3)

Total: 97

View in Yet Another Squad Builder

This seems like it could be fun. Would weapons engineer be a good choice?

TIE/FO Fighter: •"Omega Ace" (25)
•Swarm Leader (3)
Pattern Analyzer (2)

Upsilon-Class Shuttle: •Major Stridan (45)
Fire-Control System (2)
•General Hux (5)
Weapons Engineer (3)
Targeting Synchronizer (3)

TIE/FO Fighter: Epsilon Squadron Pilot (15)

TIE/FO Fighter: Epsilon Squadron Pilot (15)

Total: 100/100

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
Probably only Ausgoons will care, but most players favourite store Three D6 is shutting down :(

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you
It's always a sad day when a cool and good store shuts down :(

Seldom Posts
Jul 4, 2010

Grimey Drawer

lazerus06 posted:

This seems like it could be fun. Would weapons engineer be a good choice?

TIE/FO Fighter: •"Omega Ace" (25)
•Swarm Leader (3)
Pattern Analyzer (2)

Upsilon-Class Shuttle: •Major Stridan (45)
Fire-Control System (2)
•General Hux (5)
Weapons Engineer (3)
Targeting Synchronizer (3)

TIE/FO Fighter: Epsilon Squadron Pilot (15)

TIE/FO Fighter: Epsilon Squadron Pilot (15)

Total: 100/100

Yeah it's really fun. Weapons engineer turns it into a target lock machine which would be hilarious but probably too many eggs in one basket. If you're looking for other ideas, KRS is basically free stress to help set up shots.

LanceKing2200
Mar 27, 2007
Brilliant!!
So my FLGS is having a black Friday sale tomorrow, all X-wing is BO GO 50% off. Assuming I have none of these sets, and they are all MSRP, what's my best bet?

Ghost
Guns For Hire
Most Wanted
Upsilon
Shadowcaster
U-Wing
Decimator
Jumpmaster

I'm thinking Ghost and Upsilon, or Ghost and Decimator, but I also want to get Most wanted and start my scum collection.

Tequila Ranger
Sep 11, 2004

host after host after host ...

LanceKing2200 posted:

So my FLGS is having a black Friday sale tomorrow, all X-wing is BO GO 50% off. Assuming I have none of these sets, and they are all MSRP, what's my best bet?

Ghost
Guns For Hire
Most Wanted
Upsilon
Shadowcaster
U-Wing
Decimator
Jumpmaster

I'm thinking Ghost and Upsilon, or Ghost and Decimator, but I also want to get Most wanted and start my scum collection.

Pretty sure you can slap together a top tier list with Most Wanted, G4H, and the Shadowcaster.

hoiyes
May 17, 2007
If you want to play scum get a jumpmaster and shadowcaster.

banned from Starbucks
Jul 18, 2004




You pretty much cant go wrong with any of those except maybe the u-wing(aka the expertise expansion). My personal faves would be the ghost and shadow caster tho.

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




My store is doing...20% off. :effort:

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





Better than mine, which was tacking on a big markup before discounting.

Take a $30 item, pretend it $50, then offer 50% off! Huuuuuge savings, folks!

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
Mine is having a sale, but I already own everything I want to own :(

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




ConfusedUs posted:

Better than mine, which was tacking on a big markup before discounting.

Take a $30 item, pretend it $50, then offer 50% off! Huuuuuge savings, folks!

Did the owner used to work with companies that did store closings? That's modus operandi for them.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





Nah they’re just assholes.

I spend most of my money at Covenant, who didn’t really have a sale, but this store is literally next door to me, so I stopped in after lunch.

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
I really wish scavager crane came in more stuff. I really don't want to own multiple quadjumpers.

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
Had a chat with players in the major cities Syd, Canberra and Brisbane to find out the current meta since I live in a rural area. Sad to report it's wookies, wookies and yep you guessed it wookies.

FML regional season is going to be painful. Harpoons and scav crane looking better every day.

banned from Starbucks
Jul 18, 2004




All wookiees is when you bring out the hera and ezra crewed ghost and flip the bird to their worthless tactitians as you 5 K behind their silly asses.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
Bring Fenn, get to range 1, nuke the fuckers, ignore their paltry 2ish results each.
Add Talonbane and Guri.
Enjoy.

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



Since this is going to come up...I can use Crack Shot on the added Evade result given by a Reinforce action, right? Since it happens at the “compare results” step of an attack?

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you

Icon Of Sin posted:

Since this is going to come up...I can use Crack Shot on the added Evade result given by a Reinforce action, right? Since it happens at the “compare results” step of an attack?

Yep. Crack Shot can be used on evade results added by evade tokens, reinforce tokens, and titles.

hoiyes
May 17, 2007

canyoneer posted:

Yep. Crack Shot can be used on evade results added by evade tokens, reinforce tokens, and titles.

Crack swarms are a good 3 wookie counter, they have a decent shot at ps killing one, and then scattering and coming at the two remaining from multiple angles. 4 wookies is tougher because once crackshot is used up its easy to fall behind damage race with the extra gun.

Also every other meta list is murder to them.

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



One of my most often-flown lists is 4x Omega Squadron pilots with Crack Shot and Omega Leader (normal set up). Aka the "gently caress your evade results and dice bullshit" list. There's a small-ish tournament coming up for pre-TLJ X-Wing fun, and I'm thinking about running that, the Upsilon/TIE S/F list I posted previously, or a list involving Inq, Mauler, Omega Leader, and Pure Sabaac (the Crazy 8's! :v: ) I'm not sure which one just yet, but they've all done me well in the past.

EdBlackadder
Apr 8, 2009
Lipstick Apathy
My LGS had confirmed we're getting the next wave next week in the UK.

LanceKing2200
Mar 27, 2007
Brilliant!!
Fresh and juicy spoilers if you can read/translate French:



Translations courtesy of Reddit:

Asteroid Gambit. Action: Assign one evade token to your ship for each obstacle at range one of your ship, to a maximum of two evade tokens.

Threat Tracker. When an enemy in your firing arc at range 1-2 activates during the combat phase, you may spend your target lock token you have on that ship to perform a boost action or a barrel roll action from your action bar.

Blackout. When you attack, if the attack is obstructed, the defender rolls 2 less defense dice (to a minimum of zero).

LanceKing2200 fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Nov 28, 2017

Secret Machine
Jun 20, 2005

What the Hell?

LanceKing2200 posted:

Fresh and juicy spoilers if you can read/translate French:



Translations courtesy of Reddit:

Asteroid Gambit. Action: Assign one evade token to your ship for each obstacle at range one of your ship, to a maximum of two evade tokens.

Threat Tracker. When an enemy in your firing arc at range 1-2 activates during the combat phase, you may spend your target lock token you have on that ship to perform a boost action or a barrel roll action.

Blackout. When you attack, if the attack is obstructed, the defender rolls 2 less defense dice (to a minimum of zero).

Those cards all seem... kinda underwhelming? I’m definitely going to get the Silencer but so far nothing leaked has really blown me away.

With threat tracker, if I already have an enemy in my arc, why would I trade modifying my attack dice to reposition?

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008
THE HATE CRIME DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON
Wrt threat tracker, maybe on a lower PS ship to go for the block? Or on a ship that has natural dice mods?

(Still real bad tho)

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you


That dial looks amazing :stare:

LanceKing2200
Mar 27, 2007
Brilliant!!

Secret Machine posted:

Those cards all seem... kinda underwhelming? I’m definitely going to get the Silencer but so far nothing leaked has really blown me away.

With threat tracker, if I already have an enemy in my arc, why would I trade modifying my attack dice to reposition?

I think it's intended to either get you into range 1/out of range 3, or to get you out of their arc so you can still shoot them while not getting shot yourself.

Also if you're a higher PS and already shot them, you can trade a TL you didn't use to avoid being shot at if you can BR out of arc.

Still a niche use, but kinda cool.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





Secret Machine posted:

With threat tracker, if I already have an enemy in my arc, why would I trade modifying my attack dice to reposition?

Low PS aces will love it, to arc dodge at PS infinity. That card alone would make Carnor Jax, Old Teroch, and others viable (if they could take it, which they can't, but you get the idea).

And it might remove the need to staple PTL to arc dodgers, too. Maybe we can use other EPTs now?

The problem is that it's super expensive. I really think that it should be 1 or 2 points given you have to have a lock and spend that lock, and that the reposition action has to be in your action bar.

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canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you
10 green moves, 4 white, 3 red. And native boost/BR, lol

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