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Stunt Rock
Jul 28, 2002

DEATH WISH AT 120 DECIBELS
T2 cost reduction and 6* Blue Marvel for beating story mode good.

Putting characters in chests only very very bad.

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fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

Stunt Rock posted:

T2 cost reduction and 6* Blue Marvel for beating story mode good.

Putting characters in chests only very very bad.

Actually I ran the numbers and casinowall characters is in fact extremely ftw!

The Dave
Sep 9, 2003

Surprised people care about the chest-only characters that much. I don't really know them that well so it's all whatever to me. I actually enjoy this sort of downtime to work on fleshing more things out.

Jeabus Mahogany
Feb 13, 2011

I'm mad because of a thorn in my impenetrable hide

The Dave posted:

Surprised people care about the chest-only characters that much. I don't really know them that well so it's all whatever to me. I actually enjoy this sort of downtime to work on fleshing more things out.

Well good news, friend! Because you were so apathetic and let this slide, you've encouraged us to put [YOUR FAVORITE MARVEL CHARACTER] in the next lootbox-only round!! We've also put a bunch of poo poo you don't want in there to make sure the chance of getting what you want is close to zero!!! Were they in the game already? Well now they're only in the lootbox!!!! HAVE FUN GIVING US LOTS OF MONEY FOR VERY LITTLE GAIN!!!!

Wizchine
Sep 17, 2007

Television is the retina
of the mind's eye.
Just don't go for the lootbox characters? I mean, OCD can be crushing but the rest of us are safe.

Wilmott Snipes
May 29, 2002

It's daddy shithead, where's the bourbon?

Wizchine posted:

Just don't go for the lootbox characters? I mean, OCD can be crushing but the rest of us are safe.

Which is the option I am going for. I am not gonna quit, I have too much whale juice in this game. Just not gonna spend anymore money.

The Dave
Sep 9, 2003

Jeabus Mahogany posted:

Well good news, friend! Because you were so apathetic and let this slide, you've encouraged us to put [YOUR FAVORITE MARVEL CHARACTER] in the next lootbox-only round!! We've also put a bunch of poo poo you don't want in there to make sure the chance of getting what you want is close to zero!!! Were they in the game already? Well now they're only in the lootbox!!!! HAVE FUN GIVING US LOTS OF MONEY FOR VERY LITTLE GAIN!!!!

Breathe. It's okay. We can get through this together.

Mr. Meagles
Apr 30, 2004

Out here, everything hurts


The Dave posted:

Surprised people care about the chest-only characters that much. I don't really know them that well so it's all whatever to me. I actually enjoy this sort of downtime to work on fleshing more things out.

I don't really care about the new characters outside of Blue Marvel and Nova, but I've got the roster at 6*, mastered and at least 17/17/17/17, with about 55 T2s. So new characters are kinda "my new content" for the next month outside of 8 new story levels.

I'm not F2P by any means and will spend money if I know what I'm getting, I just hate gacha lootbox bullshit and how its worming its way into every game, and the timing for Netmarble is REALLY tone deaf on this decision. Like there could not be a worse time to shift over to lootboxes.

I still need to see how much they cost, how many bios you get, and how many characters there are to muck up the pool. Notice they don't put the cost of these new boxes in the notes. It's gonna be something real dumb.

The Dave
Sep 9, 2003

Tom Gorman posted:

I don't really care about the new characters outside of Blue Marvel and Nova, but I've got the roster at 6*, mastered and at least 17/17/17/17, with about 55 T2s. So new characters are kinda "my new content" for the next month outside of 8 new story levels.

I'm not F2P by any means and will spend money if I know what I'm getting, I just hate gacha lootbox bullshit and how its worming its way into every game, and the timing for Netmarble is REALLY tone deaf on this decision. Like there could not be a worse time to shift over to lootboxes.

I still need to see how much they cost, how many bios you get, and how many characters there are to muck up the pool. Notice they don't put the cost of these new boxes in the notes. It's gonna be something real dumb.

Yeah I think all of your points are totally valid. I'm not like going scorched earth over it because I don't think this is the future of the game or anything. Keke seems to like to try new things with how to acquire characters and then not really taking it past that group, so I feel like there's going to be this little speed bump and they never do this again.

Holyshoot
May 6, 2010
bunch of high level whales are going crazy over this. Was the costume thing ever this bad? Maybe they will reverse it?

Zokari
Jul 23, 2007

They really couldn't have picked a worse time to try this. Even if the crates are pretty generous (big if), a lot of people are pretty riled up about loot crates and are opposed to them just on principle.

Wizchine
Sep 17, 2007

Television is the retina
of the mind's eye.
I'm sure this was already done before the Battlefront thing hit the press.

Kegslayer
Jul 23, 2007

The Dave posted:

Surprised people care about the chest-only characters that much. I don't really know them that well so it's all whatever to me. I actually enjoy this sort of downtime to work on fleshing more things out.

Aside from the current uproar over loot boxes I think it's just the principle of it.

A lot of other gatcha games do it without issue but one of the big draws of Future Fight was that Netmarble didn't.

Ramadu
Aug 25, 2004

2015 NFL MVP


I'm surprised how much i give a poo poo about this but this is really dumb of them to do.

my daily dopamine dispenser why do you do this :smith:

Ramadu
Aug 25, 2004

2015 NFL MVP


Holyshoot posted:

bunch of high level whales are going crazy over this. Was the costume thing ever this bad? Maybe they will reverse it?

The costume thing is like a match compared to the bonfire thats going on with this now.

punchymcpunch
Oct 14, 2012



has az leedo weighed in yet?

Alien Rope Burn
Dec 5, 2004

I wanna be a saikyo HERO!
It feels like they're testing the waters; I mean, I can't imagine where were a ton of people waiting for Anti-Man, though Nova definitely has a b-lister sort of fanbase. But it doesn't really fit their moneymaking model, which seems to be mostly people getting subscriptions just to bump up their daily experience and putting up an endless variety of mini-paywalls to slow freebies like me down.

In any case, it seems to clash with their existing monetization strategy and I'm sure somebody will drop $1000 or whatever to get a 6☆ Anti-Man, but it's weird and tacky, and I can't see it making dolphins into whales... at least not yet.

punchymcpunch
Oct 14, 2012



you know how you hook rats up to a pellet dispenser and sometimes they get a pellet and sometimes they dont and that makes the addicted to the gambling? and so in games you add rng elements to trigger those same brain problems. netmarble is doing that with good/bad patches to inception skinner box people

NmareBfly
Jul 16, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!


I just starked again 4 days ago. :smith:

Bleah. I like collecting things and seeing the numbers go up. Paywall people I've always been pretty meh on in general but I understand the monster needs to eat. This one's a little too much, though. Only thing that could really make it okay is if there's a way to grind the chests without spending crystals -- make one the reward for doing all your daily challenges for a week or something. And even then they'd better have more than a handful of bios. If it's like 600 crystals for 64 bios then lol, just lol. My guess is 500 cystals for... hm. 320 bios? Seems too generous.

I have a friend that is going to be terribly excited by Quasar, too. It'd be neat if they brought her back in the comic and actually had her do something. I'm gonna guess she's Hyperion tier in game though.

Stunt Rock
Jul 28, 2002

DEATH WISH AT 120 DECIBELS
I would normally get a Stark Stash to save up for Christmas deals or do a bio sub to get 2099 to 420 and get Valk/Quasar, but I may hold off and see how keke responds to this.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

I think in the grand scheme of things in won't be that big a deal. If they're in the random boxes I assume that means they work the same way the AForce does. You might not get lucky and grab one of the new characters, but you'll get 8 of their bios and you can use that on them. They'll get unlocked soon enough and then everyone who has tickets will get them up anyway. At least that's how I think I understand it.

I'm disappointed because I don't have a ton of saved tickets to just waste on random characters I'm not familiar with, but you know, whatever. Its a game. Some stuff is hard and some stuff is easy.

I'm a little sad we got this update instead of a Runaways one (just because those are characters I'm familiar with) to go with their Hulu show. But I'll probably wait for another update and a 3rd pay character and then get the 20 a day when I can grab Valkyrie, Quasar, and whoever comes next and then use the rest to get Agent Venom/2099 to 4/20.

Nilbop
Jun 5, 2004

Looks like someone forgot his hardhat...
I don’t remotely care about these characters but anyone even tacitly defending this loot-box poo poo is being a Grade A Dum-Dum.

Ramadu
Aug 25, 2004

2015 NFL MVP


STAC Goat posted:

I think in the grand scheme of things in won't be that big a deal. If they're in the random boxes I assume that means they work the same way the AForce does. You might not get lucky and grab one of the new characters, but you'll get 8 of their bios and you can use that on them. They'll get unlocked soon enough and then everyone who has tickets will get them up anyway. At least that's how I think I understand it.

I'm disappointed because I don't have a ton of saved tickets to just waste on random characters I'm not familiar with, but you know, whatever. Its a game. Some stuff is hard and some stuff is easy.

I'm a little sad we got this update instead of a Runaways one (just because those are characters I'm familiar with) to go with their Hulu show. But I'll probably wait for another update and a 3rd pay character and then get the 20 a day when I can grab Valkyrie, Quasar, and whoever comes next and then use the rest to get Agent Venom/2099 to 4/20.

※The Ultimate Hero Chest also contains other characters except those that can be obtained from the 20 Biometrics Daily Packs and X-Men characters. (Added)

Stunt Rock
Jul 28, 2002

DEATH WISH AT 120 DECIBELS

STAC Goat posted:

I think in the grand scheme of things in won't be that big a deal. If they're in the random boxes I assume that means they work the same way the AForce does. You might not get lucky and grab one of the new characters, but you'll get 8 of their bios and you can use that on them. They'll get unlocked soon enough and then everyone who has tickets will get them up anyway. At least that's how I think I understand it.

I'm disappointed because I don't have a ton of saved tickets to just waste on random characters I'm not familiar with, but you know, whatever. Its a game. Some stuff is hard and some stuff is easy.

I'm a little sad we got this update instead of a Runaways one (just because those are characters I'm familiar with) to go with their Hulu show. But I'll probably wait for another update and a 3rd pay character and then get the 20 a day when I can grab Valkyrie, Quasar, and whoever comes next and then use the rest to get Agent Venom/2099 to 4/20.

With A-Force you can get bios from the free box. You cannot get these from the free box - the free box already has everyone but paywall in it. Why would they do a separate box that works the same way but costs crystals? That would be dumb as gently caress.

Basically if you want Nova or Anti-Man, you have to pay money to get a 1 in 100 chance at part of a character.

blue.eyed.ash
Jul 17, 2006

Winner of the 'How Badly Will A Phone Game Milk Us Idiot Cash Cows?' Contest!

Answer: About $70USD for a bad character that unlocks the grind for another.


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Okay, finally cleared out the new Shadowlands levels and finished the Spidey Quest Pack, so I'm trying to figure out how best to use these Mythic Costume tickets.

I've got Thor - Ragnarok at Legendary, but am fine grinding out bios to naturally Mythic that one.

I've got Loki - Ragnarok and Kid Kaiju, so those both totally make sense to get upgrades, but it's also tempting to wait for the next costume sale and pick up Hela's for an easy CTP for Cable.

Thoughts? I know for sure I want those two ridiculous Loki cards, just trying to figure out whether it's better to Mythic the paywall character or get a guaranteed CTP.

Mr. Meagles
Apr 30, 2004

Out here, everything hurts


Ramadu posted:

※The Ultimate Hero Chest also contains other characters except those that can be obtained from the 20 Biometrics Daily Packs and X-Men characters. (Added)

Holy poo poo lmfao

This is true by the way, Ramadu isn't loving around. They stealth added this in after the Korean forums asked about it.

Zokari
Jul 23, 2007

Tom Gorman posted:

Holy poo poo lmfao

This is true by the way, Ramadu isn't loving around. They stealth added this in after the Korean forums asked about it.



???? What that ever in doubt? It already said the box was only a "chance" at bios for the new characters.

Ramadu
Aug 25, 2004

2015 NFL MVP


Zokari posted:

???? What that ever in doubt? It already said the box was only a "chance" at bios for the new characters.

I, and everyone i talked to and saw on the reddit, assumed it was the 5 on the box picture. So the new 3 and BP and Carol.

SLAP IN THE FACE

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

Ramadu posted:

I, and everyone i talked to and saw on the reddit, assumed it was the 5 on the box picture. So the new 3 and BP and Carol.

SLAP IN THE FACE

No, this is the reason everyone was so upset about it

Ramadu
Aug 25, 2004

2015 NFL MVP


fart simpson posted:

No, this is the reason everyone was so upset about it

gently caress, i was upset just form those 5! now im even more mad at video games

i need that frog to tell me not to be mmad

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Stunt Rock posted:

With A-Force you can get bios from the free box. You cannot get these from the free box - the free box already has everyone but paywall in it. Why would they do a separate box that works the same way but costs crystals? That would be dumb as gently caress.

Basically if you want Nova or Anti-Man, you have to pay money to get a 1 in 100 chance at part of a character.

I actually misread it and thought it was going to be the same as A-Force and the box we were talking about was that daily free one.

Ok, I take it back then. Its dumb and I can't see myself ever spending money to gamble to get characters I don't even really know. Mea culpa.


edit: Also in general game stuff I've got a new best in Shadowland at Floor 23 but I can't get past that because it threw like 4 villain floors in a row at me and I'm all out of effective ones. I still have Phoenix, Quicksilver, Cable, Wolverine, and a bunch of T2s available but none of them can do jack against the two robots. I'm trying to build up Hela to do it with her new costume but my villain press clearly must continue.

STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 04:42 on Nov 29, 2017

Mr. Meagles
Apr 30, 2004

Out here, everything hurts


Ramadu posted:

gently caress, i was upset just form those 5! now im even more mad at video games

i need that frog to tell me not to be mmad

Ramadu
Aug 25, 2004

2015 NFL MVP



i am a dumb idiot i guess yea

Mr. Meagles
Apr 30, 2004

Out here, everything hurts


Ramadu posted:

i am a dumb idiot i guess yea

nah you're the best, i just wanted to post that gif because I could watch it for like 20 minutes and not get bored

punchymcpunch
Oct 14, 2012



Ramadu posted:

i am a dumb idiot i guess yea

i also thought it was just those 5 lol

Greywords
Oct 17, 2008

Where we're going, we won't need eyes to Select Warp.



With how it was posted, it really seemed like it was at most the 3 mentioned, BP, Cap Marvel, and America Chavez. "The Ultimates and Nova". Though rereading it does say 'a chance' even in the original post. which could go either way.

navyjack
Jul 15, 2006



Update available to d/l on iOS

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

Greywords posted:




With how it was posted, it really seemed like it was at most the 3 mentioned, BP, Cap Marvel, and America Chavez. "The Ultimates and Nova". Though rereading it does say 'a chance' even in the original post. which could go either way.

Search your heart and you will know which way it went.

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

Remember all the fun of using those event tokens to get the crappy "premium" card but even though you rolled for it 35 times all you got was dimension rift cards you already have? Well now that event is always going on except it's for two of the heroes and it costs crystals and also the 1+1 crystal deal in the shop that's been there forever is gone now too

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NmareBfly
Jul 16, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!


Well, Jean can no sweat auto clear all the new story missions up to the last one where I had to take control for the first time. :effort:

You get a celestial gear and a free 6* Blue Marvel for it but it really feels like it should have been these levels after the shield quests then Asgard.

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