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moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



I'd loving love to see post-Imperium 50k show up as a setting.

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JoshTheStampede
Sep 8, 2004

come at me bro

Immanentized posted:

So is the death company/black rage still a thing or are primaris dudes just toning all the chapter traits down?

Still a thing, but Primaris are immune/can’t be death Company.

Broken Record Talk
Jul 28, 2009

A three-hundred thousand degree baptism by nuclear fire;
we had it coming.

JoshTheStampede posted:

Still a thing, but Primaris are immune/can’t be death Company.

Pretty sure it just hasn't manifested in them yet. I can't see GW deciding to write out one of the most defining aspects of the chapter. I CAN see them trying to add some suspense before having it show up though.

WorldIndustries
Dec 21, 2004

They can't come soon enough imo, but in the meantime Reivers seem to make a good base:

Pendent
Nov 16, 2011

The bonds of blood transcend all others.
But no blood runs stronger than that of Sanguinius
Grimey Drawer

Booyah- posted:

They can't come soon enough imo, but in the meantime Reivers seem to make a good base:



Is that... Yours? It's gorgeous

WorldIndustries
Dec 21, 2004

Pendent posted:

Is that... Yours? It's gorgeous

No, it's this guy's:
http://www.agisn.de/html/primaris.html

All his minis are loving beautiful and I want to steal them

His BA inceptor conversions are particularly brilliant:

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine
So do you think Deathwatch Primarii are going to get special ammo in the codex?

goose willis
Jun 14, 2015

Get ready for teh wacky laughz0r!
Does anybody else use those Infinity cardboard scenery packs? They're surprisingly good for the price and I got two of the military base kit for just ten dollars each and I figure they're good for the ~budget gamer~

I just need to find some 40k-style skull stickers to stick on all the logos

DiHK
Feb 4, 2013

by Azathoth

Booyah- posted:

All his minis are loving beautiful and I want to steal them

Dudes got skill but:

1) The wings are in the wrong direction. It bothers me.

2) HOW COULD HE NOT GO WITH THE SKULL HELMET ON THAT REIVER/DEATH CO GUY!?!

Broken Record Talk
Jul 28, 2009

A three-hundred thousand degree baptism by nuclear fire;
we had it coming.

DiHK posted:

Dudes got skill but:

1) The wings are in the wrong direction. It bothers me.

2) HOW COULD HE NOT GO WITH THE SKULL HELMET ON THAT REIVER/DEATH CO GUY!?!

Yeah, the wings reallllllllly trigger my OCD.

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

Hamshot posted:

I could've sworn in Lorgar: bearer of the word that Kor Phaeron refers to 4 great prophets (who all have names similar to the chaos gods).

i wouldn't know, never read that one, i'm drawing on hazy recollections of listening to the Aurelian audiobook

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC

Schadenboner posted:

So do you think Deathwatch Primarii are going to get special ammo in the codex?

I loving hope so.

Artum
Feb 13, 2012

DUN da dun dun da DUUUN
Soiled Meat

SteelMentor posted:

I loving hope so.

They'd need to put some thought into it otherwise intercessors get 36" range ap2 rapid fire guns.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC

Artum posted:

They'd need to put some thought into it otherwise intercessors get 36" range ap2 rapid fire guns.

Shhh, don't say it too loud. If we all stay mum they won't notice and my Deathwatch will be good!

LordAba
Oct 22, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

goose willis posted:

Has anyone in the 40k universe tried to use warp travel to get to another galaxy? Disregarding Tyranids obviously

Also exactly how powerful was an old Eldar god compared to something like a "big" Chaos god like Khorne or Nurgle

The warp is caused by people, there aren't a lot of people between galaxies, thus I don't think lore wise you could travel too far.
Tyranids don't even use the warp to travel super long range and there ships are people!

Pendent
Nov 16, 2011

The bonds of blood transcend all others.
But no blood runs stronger than that of Sanguinius
Grimey Drawer

Artum posted:

They'd need to put some thought into it otherwise intercessors get 36" range ap2 rapid fire guns.

You'd have to sort of balance the army around it but that would honestly be cool as hell for their basic troop units to be that effective.

LordAba
Oct 22, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

SteelMentor posted:

Shhh, don't say it too loud. If we all stay mum they won't notice and my Deathwatch will be good!

Don't you guys already have one of the best flamethrowers in the game? Come on!

The Jumpoff
May 4, 2011
Your dad's in the Russian Mafia, that's the jumpoff!
Hi, I haven't played this game since 5th Edition was new and the Assault on Black Reach box was the big deal for getting started on this game. I have a decent size Ork army and want to know what I should be running so I don't get my rear end kicked too badly whenever I play now. Can any decent/good Ork players give me a starting point? I can post a roster with my entire army if that would help in the advice giving.

goose willis
Jun 14, 2015

Get ready for teh wacky laughz0r!

LordAba posted:

The warp is caused by people, there aren't a lot of people between galaxies, thus I don't think lore wise you could travel too far.
Tyranids don't even use the warp to travel super long range and there ships are people!

Does this mean that the warp is totally different in other galaxies and all sorts of weird poo poo could be going on

Like I thought the Chaos gods were omniscient beings that could see the entire universe at once, not just our galaxy

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

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Zuul the Cat posted:

The idea of the rest of the local group and interstellar space just being filled with Tyranids and Orks is pretty super grimdark for all the other races.

Works for me. Intergalactic Supah Waaargh seems like a good party.

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

goose willis posted:

Does this mean that the warp is totally different in other galaxies and all sorts of weird poo poo could be going on

Like I thought the Chaos gods were omniscient beings that could see the entire universe at once, not just our galaxy

it means the warp was totally different even in the imperium's galaxy just centuries before emps embarked on the great crusade, because it was informed by the collective emotions of a bunch of xenos societies that were subsequently genocided by the imperial expedition fleets

i mean hell, the original War In Heaven was brought to an end by the Enslavers' invasion of realspace, a variety of daemon-entity that owes no allegiance to any particular chaos god and derives from a time before humans budded off the primate evolutionary tree. the warp changes frequently, if anything the ten thousand years of human hegemony in the galaxy enforced a weird sort of stasis on the warp by feeding it a steady diet of predominantly human emotions and souls, twisting its daemons into more or less anthropocentric patterns

besides, i'm sure the agents of the chaos gods have no reason to upsell the reach and omniscience of their gods to enemies and potential converts. it's not like daemons and daemon-prophets are known to lie, either openly or by omission

Broken Record Talk
Jul 28, 2009

A three-hundred thousand degree baptism by nuclear fire;
we had it coming.
Magnus did nothing wrong.

panascope
Mar 26, 2005

Hamshot posted:

I could've sworn in Lorgar: bearer of the word that Kor Phaeron refers to 4 great prophets (who all have names similar to the chaos gods).

I’m pretty sure this happens in First Heretic. There names were Karan, Tezen, Narag, and Slaa Neth.

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo
magnus was somehow, unbelievably, even dumber than lorgar

Hamshot
Feb 1, 2006
Fun Shoe
The Astartes Civil War:

Those who know a little: It was all Magnus' fault.
Those who know a bit more: It was all Lorgar's fault.
Those who know a lot: It was all Magnus' fault.

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo
those who know too much: it was all that prick Erebus's fault

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Hamshot posted:

The Astartes Civil War:

Those who know a little: It was all Magnus' fault.
Those who know a bit more: It was all Lorgar's fault.
Those who know a lot: It was all Magnus' fault.

Except the true answer was always: The Emperor is a bad father

goose willis
Jun 14, 2015

Get ready for teh wacky laughz0r!
The gently caress kind of godly omnipotent omniscient father just loses two of his loving sons

dexefiend
Apr 25, 2003

THE GOGGLES DO NOTHING!
I got my 9 Crisis Suits stripped of their 16 year old, extra thick Dark Angels Green spray paint. I pulled the all the gear off them, and I am on a roll!

I assembled my new in box Broadside in my new Crisis Suit pattern. (I figured 6 was enough.)


Thanks thread.
After my boxes get here, I will be up to 15 Crisis Suits and 2 Commanders. I was going to make 9 as Flamer/Flamer/Burst cannon. That leaves 6 and 2 commanders.

Any advice on how which layouts I should use?

Edit: I also got like two hours worth of gunmetal grey on my Howling Griffons.

dexefiend fucked around with this message at 07:24 on Nov 29, 2017

Zuul the Cat
Dec 24, 2006

Grimey Drawer
Do any books ever touch on how the losing of the primarchs actually happened? I know it's "whisked away by chaos" but what does that mean?

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016

Hamshot posted:

The Astartes Civil War:

Those who know a little: It was all Magnus' fault.
Those who know a bit more: It was all Lorgar's fault.
Those who know a lot: It was all Magnus' fault.

Those who know it all: The Traitor Legions were the heroes

Hamshot
Feb 1, 2006
Fun Shoe

Zuul the Cat posted:

Do any books ever touch on how the losing of the primarchs actually happened? I know it's "whisked away by chaos" but what does that mean?

At least a couple do. The very second book of the black library series and The First Heretic. Time shenanigans perpetuated by (possibly) lying daemons.

Zaphod42 posted:

Except the true answer was always: The Emperor is a bad father

I get the impression whenever Lorgar and Daddy Emps met the Emperor took him aside and said "Hay, lay off the worshiping stuff". Lorgar took that to mean "Ho ho ho, god sure does work in mysterious ways! Better worship him HARDER!" and it took destroying a city for it to sink in.

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo
one of my favorite bits in Master of Mankind was Arkhan Land's flashback to being called in to consult on Emp's first inspection of Angron, after he got the big angry boy back to the Imperial Palace. the one where he tells land that he sees the primarchs as weapon delivery systems, first last and only, and finds the whole idea that he's technically their father, and that they consider him such, ridiculous

it still mystifies me that he abducted angron via teleport before the last battle of his not-spartacus servile war, rather than teleporting down with a picked band of custodes to intervene in angron's favor when the critical phase of the battle arrived. he could've won angron's love, or at least loyalty, so easily if he'd bothered to

goose willis
Jun 14, 2015

Get ready for teh wacky laughz0r!
Comedy option: Emperor does an exterminatus of the planet Angron came from, while he watches

JoshTheStampede
Sep 8, 2004

come at me bro

zeal posted:

one of my favorite bits in Master of Mankind was Arkhan Land's flashback to being called in to consult on Emp's first inspection of Angron, after he got the big angry boy back to the Imperial Palace. the one where he tells land that he sees the primarchs as weapon delivery systems, first last and only, and finds the whole idea that he's technically their father, and that they consider him such, ridiculous

it still mystifies me that he abducted angron via teleport before the last battle of his not-spartacus servile war, rather than teleporting down with a picked band of custodes to intervene in angron's favor when the critical phase of the battle arrived. he could've won angron's love, or at least loyalty, so easily if he'd bothered to

On the other hand, he’s a dickhead.

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire
The Emperor doesnt actually "get" people.

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon

The Jumpoff posted:

Hi, I haven't played this game since 5th Edition was new and the Assault on Black Reach box was the big deal for getting started on this game. I have a decent size Ork army and want to know what I should be running so I don't get my rear end kicked too badly whenever I play now. Can any decent/good Ork players give me a starting point? I can post a roster with my entire army if that would help in the advice giving.

Boyz. Lots of them. Assault is pretty drat powerful this edition and the more boyz you can get into melee the better. I love overwhelming my opponent with Battlewagons and boyz, escorted by PK biker warbosses.

Just have fun.

Safety Factor
Oct 31, 2009




Grimey Drawer

Zuul the Cat posted:

Do any books ever touch on how the losing of the primarchs actually happened? I know it's "whisked away by chaos" but what does that mean?
All of the primarchs were whisked away by chaos; it's how they were spread among their respective planets. We know that the missing two were found, but we really don't have any other details. They supposedly failed in some way and there are rumors the Ultramarines took in their legionnaires which was one way to explain their numbers. That hasn't been confirmed in any way though. The two primarchs' skulls might even adorn Malcador's throne. Beyond that, pretty much everything is :dadjoke: REDACTED :dadjoke:


They're kept around mostly as a loose plot thread for the fanbase to pick up and run with. Lost legions, custom chapters, etc. The two missing primarchs give players a lot of avenues to mess around with if they feel the need. Forge World and Black Library tease a little here and there, but there's nothing substantial out there.

Big Willy Style
Feb 11, 2007

How many Astartes do you know that roll like this?
I can't remember which book this happened in but perturabo had some flags back that suggested that one if them died or failed some test the emperor put the primarchs through.

I was smoking lots of weed in this period and may not be remembering correctly. In in the book where perturabo has a warhammer collection basically

Big Willy Style fucked around with this message at 07:00 on Nov 29, 2017

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Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

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RagnarokAngel posted:

The Emperor doesnt actually "get" people.

He's honestly a horrible human being. If Ruinous Powers weren't worse, humanity would have been trying to overthrow him by now.

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