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Morzhovyye
Mar 2, 2013

I used to go double AR a lot, I barely ever used the other gun anyways unless I had a 4x or an 8x to slap on my AK. Now I don't have to worry about having a gently caress ton of both 5.56 and 7.62 ammo to juggle when I'm looting, which is when I seem most likely to get shot at when I'm not expecting it.

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eriddy
Jan 21, 2005

sixty nine lmao
Is the AK good if so what and good relative to what tia

Hooplah
Jul 15, 2006


Use it like a super uzi. Reasonable rate of fire and better damage per round than the 5.56 ARs, but with a unreasonable amount of recoil, and pathetic muzzle velocity. Don't try to snipe with it unless it's your only option. Throw that 4x on another rifle.

Goffer
Apr 4, 2007
"..."
S12k with an extended clip is lots of fun to use and the only shotgun I'd keep, mostly for house invasions. It fires a lot, quickly. Although it does seem to lack a bit in door penetration.

abigserve
Sep 13, 2009

this is a better avatar than what I had before

eriddy posted:

Is the AK good if so what and good relative to what tia

No. Too much recoil and lovely velocity makes it really hard to use at pretty much any range. It's OK as a short-range full-auto weapon but a UMP is much better.

Fart Car '97
Jul 23, 2003

You gotta keep in mind that pay2win is considered good and normal in Chinese games

VulgarandStupid
Aug 5, 2003
I AM, AND ALWAYS WILL BE, UNFUCKABLE AND A TOTAL DISAPPOINTMENT TO EVERYONE. DAE WANNA CUM PLAY WITH ME!?




AK is pretty dope, that thing shreds people even in Level 3 helmets.

Hulebr00670065006e
Apr 20, 2010
I can't decide on the AK. One game it's the best non-crate full auto gun and the next I can't hit poo poo with it. It's also annoying having to carry around a lot of 7.62 unless your long range gun is also 7.62.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Fart Car '97 posted:

You gotta keep in mind that pay2win is considered good and normal in Chinese games

No poo poo - evidently on the Chinese World of Tanks server, you have levels of 'clients,' and only the biggest 'clients' can buy the most overpowered tanks. To become a 'big client,' you have to spend somewhere in the neighborhood of ten grand in US currency - then the most expensive premium costs something like seven grand on top of that, and can only be purchased once you're a "VVVIP." So make no mistake - they can make the prettiest PUBG clone in history, but they're not fishing for replay value, they're fishing for whales.

If anything, Wargaming, for all its faults, made a game that even the lowliest Russian Krokodil addict could play on their glorified toaster PC. The Chinese make games to get the middle class kids to go to eCafes and rich kids/junior executives with trust funds and expense accounts.

Tonetta
Jul 9, 2013

look mother look at ME MOTHER MOTHER I AM A HOMESTIXK NOW

**methodically removes and eats own clothes*

Q8ee posted:

Should I aim for headshots with a shotgun? People told me that it's retarded to aim for headshots after I complained about the fact that so many times, I've headshot a person with a shotgun and they still live. They told me you're meant to go for torso shots so all the pellets can hit, whereas going for headshots, some pellets don't hit because of the smaller target.

Aim upper torso. Shotgun damage is based on "mother pellet" which means there is a designated hit pellet that calls all damage for every pellet. If it hits someone's foot & the rest hit torso, it'll all do foot damage. Aiming for upper torso mitigates the chances of it missing entirely & is very unlikely to hit weak areas, added bonus for potential headshot.

fletcher posted:

I've seen Choco run around with one much later than that. I think while waiting for a sniper he will keep the shotty? Maybe he can chime in and explain why he likes it. I usually drop the shotty to go double AR

He probably does it because he sits in buildings a lot mid/late game and they're bar none the best weapon in them. Furthermore, you don't have to dig for attachments to make them worthwhile & there's no real need to carry more than 10 shells outside the chamber, making it very light on baggage. It's best paired with the m16 on live servers.

cosmicjim
Mar 23, 2010
VISIT THE STICKIED GOON HOLIDAY CHARITY DRIVE THREAD IN GBS.

Goons are changing the way children get an education in Haiti.

Edit - Oops, no they aren't. They donated to doobie instead.

Tonetta posted:

Aim upper torso. Shotgun damage is based on "mother pellet" which means there is a designated hit pellet that calls all damage for every pellet. If it hits someone's foot & the rest hit torso, it'll all do foot damage. Aiming for upper torso mitigates the chances of it missing entirely & is very unlikely to hit weak areas, added bonus for potential headshot.


He probably does it because he sits in buildings a lot mid/late game and they're bar none the best weapon in them. Furthermore, you don't have to dig for attachments to make them worthwhile & there's no real need to carry more than 10 shells outside the chamber, making it very light on baggage. It's best paired with the m16 on live servers.

It's best with m16 if you plan on running it all game. It's probably best paired with a fully auto if you plan on dumping the shotgun as soon as you find a real sniper rifle.

Hippie Hedgehog
Feb 19, 2007

Ever cuddled a hedgehog?

Fart Car '97 posted:

You gotta keep in mind that pay2win is considered good and normal in Chinese games

It's kind of funny, the level of hypocrisy present, where on the one hand a "Battle Royale" type game is condemned by the state for not being socialist (I can sort of see where they're coming from on that), yet pay-2-win games with several thousand dollar tiers are fine. The former is ideological-only while the latter is highly practical, putting every low-income gamer at a disadvantage. Pay-2-cheat in PUBG on foreign servers would be the unfortunate fallout.

kiwid
Sep 30, 2013

I got a chicken dinner last night where I had 8 kills by spraying the AKM. gently caress the UMP, the AK is way better at full auto spraying at close range. I never pulled out my Mini14 once that game. It tore through so many level 3 helms, I could sense the ragequits from the dead players.

Slim Mat
Oct 3, 2015
New video up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8nOSHPxKQo

Part 1 of the last couple weeks with mostly just funny and frustrating poo poo. Part 2 with slick wins later this week.

Hippie Hedgehog
Feb 19, 2007

Ever cuddled a hedgehog?
Googling "is there good loot on the starting island", I found widely varying results depending on when people checked. I decided to go there on the current test version.
TLDR: No, not good loot.

So I did a little boat trip and here is the result.
* one Tommy Gun
* a few handguns
* one UMP
* smokes galore (I'm not kidding, it's like they replaced the warmup island's rifles with smoke grenades or something.)

No health items, no armor, no scopes or other attachments. In short, island sucks.

I have no idea about how it would play out on the live servers, and I don't have the patience to do this again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHUzoyRck-g

Bhodi
Dec 9, 2007

Oh, it's just a cat.
Pillbug
You could have asked in here and we'd have told you that they're was a patch a month or so ago that removed most of the loot, it was the same patch that added buildings in stalber with it

I admire your dedication though

Fart Car '97
Jul 23, 2003

Hippie Hedgehog posted:

Googling "is there good loot on the starting island", I found widely varying results depending on when people checked. I decided to go there on the current test version.
TLDR: No, not good loot.


Lmao there was a patch note that was "removed good loot from starting island" bruh

Hippie Hedgehog
Feb 19, 2007

Ever cuddled a hedgehog?

Fart Car '97 posted:

Lmao there was a patch note that was "removed good loot from starting island" bruh

Maybe when you buy a game, you like to trawl through all the old patch notes to find out what changed when. Well, sorry, we can't all be like you. Some of us, like me, prefer to try ourselves when it's not apparent. Others, like Bhodi, are generally nice, helpful, people.

Be like Bhodi.

Tweak
Jul 28, 2003

or dont whatever








Even when there was (some) loot there I would have to argue with my duo mate to not waste his time going, but thankfully with the city there now & the patch notes we can start running from the blue without first waiting for him to return mostly empty handed.

Ra Ra Rasputin
Apr 2, 2011
Here is a question, if your view distance is set to very low you won't see trees in the distance but will see players, so my question is if you see a player on a mountain that should have trees on it and you start shooting him from across the map will your bullets ignore the trees that aren't rendering on your end or will they hit invisible trees?

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?
When I first started playing duos my friend and I would go out to spawn island and it was pretty decent most of the time. Usually nothing amazing, but you could get decently kitted out while being fairly confident no one was going to sneak up on you. IIRC a few of the teams in that first major tournament went out there successfully as well. The biggest risk was that someone would steal or destroy your boat and leave you stranded out there to likely die from the circle unless you had a rare northeast center.

Apparently it was throwing off the loot distribution though which is why they nerfed it.


Ra Ra Rasputin posted:

Here is a question, if your view distance is set to very low you won't see trees in the distance but will see players, so my question is if you see a player on a mountain that should have trees on it and you start shooting him from across the map will your bullets ignore the trees that aren't rendering on your end or will they hit invisible trees?
Assuming it's anything like when you get the buildings not rendering bug, no. You'll see blood on your screen so it'll look like you're hitting them but the server won't agree.

daslog
Dec 10, 2008

#essereFerrari
If people have more shadowplay clips of hackers, please send pm me a link (or post i here). I'm working on a little project. Thank you in advance!

Lex Neville
Apr 15, 2009

Ra Ra Rasputin posted:

Here is a question, if your view distance is set to very low you won't see trees in the distance but will see players, so my question is if you see a player on a mountain that should have trees on it and you start shooting him from across the map will your bullets ignore the trees that aren't rendering on your end or will they hit invisible trees?

I believe objects other than vehicles aren't affected by view distance, but I might be wrong.

Lex Neville
Apr 15, 2009

daslog posted:

If people have more shadowplay clips of hackers, please send pm me a link (or post i here). I'm working on a little project. Thank you in advance!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTk5mZWL3gE
https://clips.twitch.tv/HealthyShinyMonitorDAESuppy

the second one is way at the end, skip to 30 sec or so. also, for what it's worth, both those dudes have been banned

e: double post my bad

sticksy
May 26, 2004
Nap Ghost
is the hack (seemingly) only or primarily with the M416 for some reason? I haven't had as much of an issue with hackers the last couple of weeks but that seems to be my impression. If so, is it just because it's less obvious with that gun than others or what?

fletcher
Jun 27, 2003

ken park is my favorite movie

Cybernetic Crumb

daslog posted:

If people have more shadowplay clips of hackers, please send pm me a link (or post i here). I'm working on a little project. Thank you in advance!

I used to run into hackers *all* the time. Over the past 3-4 weeks or however long it has been since they added additional measures to counter the hackers, I don't think I've run into a single one. From my perspective, whatever they did seems to be working, at least for now.

sticksy posted:

is the hack (seemingly) only or primarily with the M416 for some reason? I haven't had as much of an issue with hackers the last couple of weeks but that seems to be my impression. If so, is it just because it's less obvious with that gun than others or what?

We ran into hackers that were using SKS, kar98, s12k (that was a fun one) so I don't think it was tied specifically to the M416

Lex Neville
Apr 15, 2009
From what I've seen, semi-autos are preferred, i.e. the m16 and the sks. The dude with the m4 that killed me had the instagib thing that was popular for a week or so then, which makes me suspect he didn't really care which rifle he used.

Hooplah
Jul 15, 2006


I mainly play fpp squads and we never ever encounter hackers. Like, I've never seen one in a few hundred hours of play. Are you guys that are complaining about them mainly playing TPP?

Lex Neville
Apr 15, 2009
I exclusively play FPP as well and only encountered the one guy from the twitch clip. Note that I'm not complaining, I just posted those two links because someone asked

fletcher
Jun 27, 2003

ken park is my favorite movie

Cybernetic Crumb

Hooplah posted:

I mainly play fpp squads and we never ever encounter hackers. Like, I've never seen one in a few hundred hours of play. Are you guys that are complaining about them mainly playing TPP?

No I mainly play FPP squads as well. Previously we had seen them more in TPP but we started seeing them quite frequently in FPP squads as well. Again, this was several weeks ago before the new round of counter measures (which seem to be working).

Tweak
Jul 28, 2003

or dont whatever








wasn't the prevailing thought that the vast majority of hackers were in TPP because that was the default selection for leader boards? I also exclusively play fpp solo/duos and only saw a hacker once ever in duos around 3 or 4 am PST

underage at the vape shop
May 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747
A ahk or logitech script will only work with 1 gun ie on mouse click {cursor down 15 pixels} where 15 pixels is the vertical recoil of a specific gun. This is what goons like pokkerguy use and try to justify as not real cheating

An aimbot will be more sophisticated and calculate deviation from a point and correct it on the fly.

Tweak
Jul 28, 2003

or dont whatever








underage at the vape shop posted:

goons like pokkerguy use and try to justify as not real cheating

I assume the extremely bad argument is that they aren't as bad as the people flying around the map at 8x speed ping ponging between every single head on the server. Like ok but you're still a cheater tho

eriddy
Jan 21, 2005

sixty nine lmao
Question to the tryhard players here: if this game had an api or a way to collect stats and data beyond what is already available, what metrics or info do you think would be most effective at helping you improve your winrates? For example, a graph of all your drop locations and death locations. Have you guys wanted to know stuff like that or think it would be useful?

fargom
Mar 21, 2007

underage at the vape shop posted:

A ahk or logitech script will only work with 1 gun ie on mouse click {cursor down 15 pixels} where 15 pixels is the vertical recoil of a specific gun. This is what goons like pokkerguy use and try to justify as not real cheating

LMAO are there posts on the forums where he/she argues this? I don't see how anyone could make a remotely logical argument that an AHK script that kills recoil isn't cheating, that's like the definition of cheating.

Tonetta
Jul 9, 2013

look mother look at ME MOTHER MOTHER I AM A HOMESTIXK NOW

**methodically removes and eats own clothes*

fargom posted:

LMAO are there posts on the forums where he/she argues this? I don't see how anyone could make a remotely logical argument that an AHK script that kills recoil isn't cheating, that's like the definition of cheating.

you can just ask him yourself and he'll talk about it for as long as you can listen

i remember breaking this story because he tried to shill it on me once lmao

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl
the gently caress is this poo poo

WirelessPillow
Jan 12, 2012

Look Ma, no wires!

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

the gently caress is this poo poo



https://twitter.com/PUBATTLEGROUNDS/status/935763823365120000

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl
But I'm not running the test server version :confused:

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Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl
okay so I guess their servers are just fuct right now

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