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Push El Burrito posted:Wait, you guys don't flirt by dropping your pants and waving your penis at coworkers? Not coworkers, but I did this to Margaret Atwood once as a joke.
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Jaxyon posted:The practical effect of this is you're going to cause a lot of people who aren't you to suffer. I mean, look at this poo poo. The people who are suffering the most under Trump - black people and women - are the ones who didn't turn out for Hillary. Go tell them they don't have a solid understanding of politics and let me know where that gets you.
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http://polipace.com/2017/11/26/report-geraldo-rivera-sexually-assaulted-bette-midler-seemingly-admitted/quote:It’s amazing that Geraldo Rivera, known for his riveting investigations into empty safes, has a job anymore with FoxNews, after being caught sending nude photos to people on the internet last year. However, we’ve learned recently that he was accused by Better Midler of raping her, and weirdly enough seems to admitted the encounter in his biography to touching her without permission. 
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They made Jimmy Carter sell his peanut farm
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It's like the Battlestar Galactica of bad posting. All these posts have been made before, and all these posts will be made again. Plus, some of the people involved might secretly be robots, and nobody is entirely sure what the plot is.
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Starshark posted:You guys dumping on the person who didn't want to vote for Hillary are the reason Trump's going to be a two-termer. I actually did vote for Hillary. I think protest votes are dumb. But the only election I've skipped out on since I turned 18 was when Rod Balgojevich ran for re-election in Illinois, because I wasn't voting for him and I'm not voting for a Republican. I don't expect perfection from political candidates, but I'm done with Democrats moving further to the right every four years so their corporate donations don't dry up. If that upsets any of you, well, keep fretting about millennial voter turnout.
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:Not coworkers, but I did this to Margaret Atwood once as a joke. You: a virgin clothes wearer Me: a chad strutting naked around the office Also me: somehow fired in a surprise twist
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Better midler? Bette Midler
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Starshark posted:I mean, look at this poo poo. The people who are suffering the most under Trump - black people and women - are the ones who didn't turn out for Hillary. Go tell them they don't have a solid understanding of politics and let me know where that gets you. haha dont pretend black people and women agree with you, cowardly dumbass
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tbf i refused to be bothered to vote for bill deblasio but that's because he's a terrible mayor but was going to win easily anyway, so why take time out of my day to support a bad mayor in a foregone conclusion if it was actually a possibility a republican would win i probably would have bothered
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Bhaal posted:I caught some of the Macy's parade on thanksgiving at my mom's and watching Matt host it I reflected--as one who doesn't watch daytime TV and certainly not keeping track of knowing poo poo about poo poo of that world--that maybe the women who work around him have always known him as one of the few men, in an industry of butt-pinchers, who reached high profile and power and yet remained decent and respectful. I caught some of the Macy's parade on Thanksgiving at my place while drinking my coffee and setting some dishes up to bring to dinner at a family member's house and I remember reflecting on what my NYC friends who work in television said and I thought to myself "Man Matt Lauer is such a pud looking guy for being such an unrepentant poon hound. I wonder if he really was responsible for Morales' second kid."
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i summon all the orphans, cripples, neglected elderly, and the beasts of the land and the sea to my side! come! support me! and help me smite this foul goon who dareth disagree with me, and give power to my impotent guilt tripping and petulant anger! come, i call on you as allies!
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What if - bear with me here - what if we approached elections as a thing we tried to win rather than something to be run in such a way that our primary motivator for turning out the vote is shame? What if we regarded winning as fundamentally more important than plausible deniability when we lose? Instead of blaming people who stayed home for not caring enough about others (although there is blame to go around there, it hardly seems productive to make it the focus), we blame politicians for not inspiring the turnout? Especially when, once elected, they typically do the bare minimum to protect minorities anyway? Obama certainly did more for extrajudicial killings than Trump ever will, but he could have been President for 50 years and he'd have never solved the problem, the way his Justice Department was going. We should all demand better, and if we don't get it then we should make sure there is a price to pay. Part of that price is kicking out the fuckers who don't deliver. I mean there is a time and a place for changing people's minds and showing leadership in that sphere, and in fact a political campaign is a great time to do that. Too bad most Dems don't do that either and Hillary was certainly no exception to that.
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e:^^^^^^^^^ you'r ein the wrong thread[ quote="FuturePastNow" post="478847605"] I actually did vote for Hillary. I think protest votes are dumb. But the only election I've skipped out on since I turned 18 was when Rod Balgojevich ran for re-election in Illinois, because I wasn't voting for him and I'm not voting for a Republican. I don't expect perfection from political candidates, but I'm done with Democrats moving further to the right every four years so their corporate donations don't dry up. If that upsets any of you, well, keep fretting about millennial voter turnout. [/quote] Show me a Democratic US presidential nominee with a more leftist policy platform than HRC
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FuturePastNow posted:If that upsets any of you, well, keep fretting about millennial voter turnout. Actually, 18 to 34 voter turnout in Virginia this year was super good, even with a guy that the usual offenders liked to occasionally have a two minutes hate about.  You do you, guy, no one can force you to vote in a way that you don't want to, and nobody's arguments in this thread are actually going to convince anyone, but Trump's victory seems to have taught most of our cohort an important lesson about involvement in politics. I wish it hadn't taken that, but if there is any long term positive impact of the evil tangelo, it'll be that.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:gently caress off Trump's lived his whole life as a rich businessman; of course he knows people who make a ton of money without actually working.
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Push El Burrito posted:Wait, you guys don't flirt by dropping your pants and waving your penis at coworkers? I prefer a terrycloth bathrobe. Just drop the belt and whammo! Is a bathrobe not appropriate office attire where you work?
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WeAreTheRomans posted:Show me a Democratic US presidential nominee with a more leftist policy platform than HRC Bernie Sanders
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Kilroy posted:What if - bear with me here - what if we approached elections as a thing we tried to win rather than something to be run in such a way that our primary motivator for turning out the vote is shame? What if we regarded winning as fundamentally more important than plausible deniability when we lose? No one wants to argue this with you
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Tatsuta Age posted:Bernie Sanders He wasn't a nominee.
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Tatsuta Age posted:Bernie Sanders learn to read
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WeAreTheRomans posted:
http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/document/progressive-platform-of-1912/
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Kilroy posted:What if - bear with me here - what if we approached elections as a thing we tried to win rather than something to be run in such a way that our primary motivator for turning out the vote is shame? What if we regarded winning as fundamentally more important than plausible deniability when we lose? what if we ignored stupid people wanting to be praised for being stupid and mocked them instead, then discussed how to win elections without their dumb input
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Kilroy posted:What if - bear with me here - what if we approached elections as a thing we tried to win rather than something to be run in such a way that our primary motivator for turning out the vote is shame? What if we regarded winning as fundamentally more important than plausible deniability when we lose? Because realizing that We Messed Up is the reason that Virginia was a crushing defeat for Republicans.
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:This sort of thing happened quite a bit in Iraq and Afghanistan. Locals feeding bad info to commanders as a way to take out people they don't like, or want something that have. There is no reason to trust local informants in this way, and the commanders should be court martialed and imprisoned for murder. I ran sources for the army in Iraq, anyone who just blindly trusts folks and doesn't verify is a goddamned idiot.
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Kilroy posted:What if - bear with me here - what if we approached elections as a thing we tried to win rather than something to be run in such a way that our primary motivator for turning out the vote is shame? What if we regarded winning as fundamentally more important than plausible deniability when we lose? I'm not interested in running a political campaign about shaming nonvoters. The thing is, I'm not a campaign consultant, I'm a poster on the Something Awful forums, so I feel 100% comfortable calling abstentionism asinine, and a contributing factor in the nightmare we live in.
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disjoe posted:He wasn't a nominee. He was a presidential candidate and is now a grammy nominee sooo
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Better midler? Fair to Midler
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Kilroy posted:What if - bear with me here - what if we approached elections as a thing we tried to win rather than something to be run in such a way that our primary motivator for turning out the vote is shame? What if we regarded winning as fundamentally more important than plausible deniability when we lose? We already have a thread for this poo poo.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/document/progressive-platform-of-1912/ That's kinda cool, and I phrased the request like I did because I wanted to see something like this, but this was not the Democratic party
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Yeah Northam outperformed his polling by about 5 points off the back of exceptional young Dem turnout even after shooting himself in the foot on a bunch of issues. Which should disprove a lot of assumptions that some people here have had but, well.
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Kilroy posted:What if - bear with me here - what if we approached elections as a thing we tried to win rather than something to be run in such a way that our primary motivator for turning out the vote is shame? What if we regarded winning as fundamentally more important than plausible deniability when we lose? Hey here's two simultaneously true things: 1. It would be good if the Democratic Party fielded inspiring candidates. 2. Individually refusing to vote because "they're all the same" is stupid and bad.
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evilweasel posted:what if we ignored stupid people wanting to be praised for being stupid and mocked them instead, then discussed how to win elections without their dumb input The lesson you dumb fucks are going to take from Virginia is that no major changes need be made. And in the short term it will play out because the GOP is pretty loving terrible right now. Eventually they'll get their act together. People like you are going to get the rest of us all killed, you stupid idiot gently caress.
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The 'trigger' doesn't really sound like a done deal and there's a big chance that it explodes into a new dispute tomorrow. quote:According to information leaked to Bloomberg News, one version of the trigger currently under discussion involves $350 billion in tax hikes beginning in 2022 if the promised growth fails to materialize. The exact size of the tax increase would be determined by the size of the economic shortfall. Another version detailed by Politico involved hiking the corporate tax rate by 1 percent if GDP doesn’t grow an average of 0.4 percent over the five years after the law is enacted. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/the-wheels-are-coming-off-the-tax-bills-promised-deficit-trigger More detail on the trigger: quote:The size of a tax increase would correlate to the size of any shortfall. It would come in the form of an increase in the corporate tax rate and a new tax on the difference between corporate book income -- that is, the income reported to shareholders -- and actual taxable income. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-29/senate-tax-trigger-is-said-to-allow-for-350-billion-increase
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:It's always weird when two or more entirely different conversations are going on concurrently in one thread. My head keeps spinning. and furthermore if you disable a wild pig with a crossbow and capture it, you can ransom it to the dwellers of the appalachian 'mountains'
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WeAreTheRomans posted:Show me a Democratic US presidential nominee with a more leftist policy platform than HRC Any of them because no one believed a single word that two-faced shuckster said.
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You don't have to participate. No one is forcing you to. But if you don't then you don't get to complain when things turn to poo poo. That's how it works.
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Kilroy posted:"What if we accused party-line voters who are nonetheless heavily dissatisfied with the party, of being Republicans." this is some of the most sad rear end projection i've seen itt and that's saying something "how dare you disagree with me! i'm going to imagine that you are literally killing me, and then accuse you of facilitating my death! what do you think about that, smart guy?!" you have brain problems irl
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