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Annnnnnnnnnnnnd my interest in American Gods is gone https://twitter.com/Variety/status/936009358177169408 Someday I'm going to see Bryan Fuller tell a complete story 
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There goes my interest in finally watching S1. Maybe if the Cheno that appeared in the finale has a major S2 role I'll get around to it.
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Nov 30, 2017 00:44
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Fuller left STD as well and that didn’t suffer from it (it only improved as it went on, even), so the next season American Gods might turn out just fine as well.
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Nov 30, 2017 00:46
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Fuller's involvement was the only thing I was on board for, along with Cheno and Anderson. I'm not big on Gaiman stuff so
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Nov 30, 2017 00:50
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Chris James 2 posted:Annnnnnnnnnnnnd my interest in American Gods is gone quote:Creators and executive producers on the series, Fuller and Green are said to be departing after clashing with producer FremantleMedia over budget and creative direction. Fuller and Green were said to have been pushing for an increase to the series’ budget for season two. Sources close to the production said that the per-episode budget for “American Gods” season two already nearly $10 million.  Fuller you are high on your own supply.
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Nov 30, 2017 00:50
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According to the article they're leaving because they couldn't agree on a budget with the production company paying for it. That's not a good sign.
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Nov 30, 2017 00:50
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Maybe those talks of Hannibal coming back in a few years can change to ASAP pls
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Nov 30, 2017 00:52
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Yeah if this leads to Hannibal being a thing again then gently caress yes but otherwise man Fuller really needs to learn to stick with projects
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Nov 30, 2017 00:56
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muscles like this! posted:According to the article they're leaving because they couldn't agree on a budget with the production company paying for it. That's not a good sign. Going north of 10 million per episode is absurd; American Gods is good but not approaching the highest cost per episode of television on the planet (13 million) good.
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Nov 30, 2017 01:09
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Ghosted is getting more episodes, but Fox is loving with it.quote:The network has picked up six additional episodes of the show, which stars Craig Robinson and Adam Scott as two guys recruited to work for a secret agency that investigates the paranormal. That brings its total for the season to 16; it initially received a smaller-than-usual 10-episode commitment. I don't know if I'm on board with this new direction.
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Nov 30, 2017 01:29
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Party Plane Jones posted:Going north of 10 million per episode is absurd; American Gods is good but not approaching the highest cost per episode of television on the planet (13 million) good. Yeah 10mil seems more than plenty, unless the effects are going nuts in season 2. Even then, that's a shitload of money. e: actually just bring back Pushing Daisies thx, Lee Pace is free again
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Nov 30, 2017 01:49
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less laughter posted:Fuller left STD as well and that didn’t suffer from it (it only improved as it went on, even), so the next season American Gods might turn out just fine as well. You know they rewrote and refilmed a lot of his stuff, right? Most of his original material was removed from the show.
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Nov 30, 2017 01:57
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esperterra posted:Yeah 10mil seems more than plenty, unless the effects are going nuts in season 2. Even then, that's a shitload of money. The 3-4 episodes of American Gods I managed to get through before slipping into a coma were in no way $10mill quality. Holy poo poo.
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Nov 30, 2017 02:15
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Reminder that Woody Allen's 6 episodes for Amazon cost $80 million
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Nov 30, 2017 02:17
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Why would Starz renew the show at all? Nobody watched it and it cost a gazillion bucks to make. Fuller has no idea what he’s doing.
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Nov 30, 2017 02:22
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Vegetable posted:Why would Starz renew the show at all? Nobody watched it and it cost a gazillion bucks to make. Fuller has no idea what he’s doing. 
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Nov 30, 2017 02:26
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Mu Zeta posted:Reminder that Woody Allen's 6 episodes for Amazon cost $80 million Out of court settlements run rich
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Nov 30, 2017 02:30
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American Gods was the perfect spot of something I didn't really remember until it was brought up, would be kind of sad if it got cancelled, but would also probably forget about it an hour later.
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Nov 30, 2017 02:36
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I liked American Gods, I love Fuller, but at some point he's going to have to own up to the fact that he doesn't seem to be able to work within the constraints of the industry.
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Nov 30, 2017 02:39
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Why doesn't Fuller do movies? It really seems like it'd be a fit for the kind of TV he makes.
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Vegetable posted:Why doesn't Fuller do movies? You've never heard of his film-only alias, Guillermo del Toro?
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Nov 30, 2017 02:52
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Vegetable posted:Why doesn't Fuller do movies? It really seems like it'd be a fit for the kind of TV he makes. Because he's a notorious perfectionist, is pathologically incapable of keeping to a schedule, is apparently a massive pain in the rear end to deal with behind the scenes, and with his predilection for wanting to have a zillion irons in the fire at once, he'd be impossible to keep on-task -- I also imagine that no film director would want to deal with his intense desire to be the primary creative voice. But with the way he bounces around, he'll do a season of Amazing Stories, get fired by Apple after the first season because of some insane demand, he'll then go back to NBCU with just enough funding scraped together to do a lovely fourth season of Hannibal that has like ten minutes of Mads Mikkelsen because that's all he could afford, then he'll do some other passion project with, I don't know, Amazon. Open Source Idiom posted:You know they rewrote and refilmed a lot of his stuff, right? Most of his original material was removed from the show. Fuller was fired three months before the cameras started rolling on Discovery, there was nothing to re-film. There was also enough of his first two scripts that he retained the "Written by" credit on those two episodes, and if that went to WGA arbitration (as it almost certainly did), then some due diligence was done as to exactly how much of his material was kept. Timby fucked around with this message at 03:00 on Nov 30, 2017 |
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Nov 30, 2017 02:58
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Matt Lauer had a secret button on his desk that let him lock his office door. That's a good way to ensure privacy for sexual harassment and masturbating at work. Who even thought of creating a lock like that.
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Nov 30, 2017 03:53
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Mu Zeta posted:Matt Lauer had a secret button on his desk that let him lock his office door. That's a good way to ensure privacy for sexual harassment and masturbating at work. Who even thought of creating a lock like that.
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Nov 30, 2017 04:00
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Mu Zeta posted:Matt Lauer had a secret button on his desk that let him lock his office door. That's a good way to ensure privacy for sexual harassment and masturbating at work. Who even thought of creating a lock like that. The thing I'm wondering is who approved him getting it installed in the first place? Did he just hire someone himself? Did it go through the network? You'd think something like that even existing would have raised red flags in their legal department because there's no legitimate use for it.
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Nov 30, 2017 04:18
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muscles like this! posted:The thing I'm wondering is who approved him getting it installed in the first place? Did he just hire someone himself? Did it go through the network? You'd think something like that even existing would have raised red flags in their legal department because there's no legitimate use for it.
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Nov 30, 2017 04:20
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The legitimate use is for a lock-down situation, so that you don't have to waste time approaching a door to secure the room. You hit the button and get under your desk. He totally used it for air tight sex prison bit though.
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Nov 30, 2017 04:26
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Mulva posted:The legitimate use is for a lock-down situation, so that you don't have to waste time approaching a door to secure the room. You hit the button and get under your desk.
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Nov 30, 2017 04:33
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Mulva posted:The legitimate use is for a lock-down situation, so that you don't have to waste time approaching a door to secure the room. You hit the button and get under your desk. Disney executives did this (along with Eisner having a button to immediately shut down all the parks) in the aftermath of 9/11, because Eisner was absolutely paranoid that Al Qaeda was going to hit Epcot or the Magic Kingdom with a plane.
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Nov 30, 2017 04:44
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:Matt Lauer was really that important that he needed permanent safeguards for lockdown situations? He's not the President or anything they helicoptered him in from the hamptons every day whenever he felt like going there. the sex dungeon button probably equalled the fuel cost of 1 flight. i mean if multiple networks are bidding for you, ask for some crazy poo poo, see what they agree to.
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Nov 30, 2017 04:48
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:Matt Lauer was really that important that he needed permanent safeguards for lockdown situations? He's not the President or anything A bunch of news organizations were targeted in the Anthrax attacks, remember. It's not really too far out of the realm of possibility
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Nov 30, 2017 04:50
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Mulva posted:The legitimate use is for a lock-down situation, so that you don't have to waste time approaching a door to secure the room. You hit the button and get under your desk. It's all about the implication
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Nov 30, 2017 04:55
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Lauer was the network's golden boy who was commanding $25 mil a year; "Oh, and tell somebody on the maintenance team I want a button on my desk that locks the door" probably didn't even phase the unfortunate NBC Page who had to take his coffee order that morning.
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Nov 30, 2017 05:03
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Whilst it's obvious that all this harassment/rape/pedo stuff is awful, is it wrong that for the most part, I feel like I will still enjoy stuff done by these lovely people? I'll gladly go back and watch a Louie standup special and Kevin Spacey is in some of my favourite movies of all time. Considering this whole time I've seen countless "Duh, that was pretty well known that he was doing this stuff before it all came out" comments and people still enjoyed the work that these people created/starred in, I feel like I'm not alone, I'm a fan of all of the following: MMA, NFL, Pro Wrestling, Ice Hockey, Rock n Roll, Heavy Metal. These industries are absolutely littered with lovely people doing lovely things to women and are sometimes even celebrated for it. Is this TV/Hollywood stuff all that different?
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Nov 30, 2017 05:37
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I still love Roman Polanski's movies, so I'm with you on that. I have no trouble separating art from artist, but I can understand why others might not be able to.
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Nov 30, 2017 05:40
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JethroMcB posted:Lauer was the network's golden boy who was commanding $25 mil a year; "Oh, and tell somebody on the maintenance team I want a button on my desk that locks the door" probably didn't even phase the unfortunate NBC Page who had to take his coffee order that morning.
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Nov 30, 2017 05:47
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American Gods looked expensive as gently caress and it's ludicrous that Fuller somehow thought he could get an even higher budget considering the show isn't a GoT-level success. It sucks that Fuller is leaving the show but Season 1 was kinda spotty and the show should never have been adapted to live action in the first place. Making American Gods an animated series probably would have been the better, cheaper option but no one in America makes animated dramas for adults. Also tonight's Mr Robot was really incredible, timely, and weirdly uplifting and people should go watch it
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Nov 30, 2017 07:06
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:Matt Lauer was really that important that he needed permanent safeguards for lockdown situations? He's not the President or anything I think you're way overestimating the complexity of a system like this. I work with a number of elementary schools and a bunch of them have electromagnetic locks and door releases that can be operated remotely. It's a few pieces of equipment that wouldn't cost more than a couple hundred dollars per room, and they have a number of safety benefits beyond lockdown situations.
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Nov 30, 2017 07:06
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muscles like this! posted:The thing I'm wondering is who approved him getting it installed in the first place? Did he just hire someone himself? Did it go through the network? You'd think something like that even existing would have raised red flags in their legal department because there's no legitimate use for it. "I like keeping my office door closed to avoid being bothered by passers-by/plebes who want to chit-chat, but need a way to inform staff that want to talk business to me that I am or am not available and these doors already lock. Also, you are paying me $25M/year, and I am lazy and do not want to have to get up to unlock the door, so give me a button." Honestly when the news reported the button my first thought was "you creepy gently caress" and my quickly following second thought was "I want a door-locking button for my creepy windowless office". I literally taped a stop sign onto a yardstick for my ex-boss to wave around because her office was setup in a way that you had to fully enter her office and go around a wall to find out if she was on the phone, but we assumed if the door was locked that she was either not there or in full DND mode (we all have keys to all the doors).
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There's no Longmire thread, right? S6e8: fuckin lol how did they hold off introducing Richie until almost the end of the season?! Meg clearly has a type, and the scene of Ferg first meeting him is gold. I swear to god if Nighthorse turns out to actually be a villain, I will disown the show.
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