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the correct answer here is to not go into gw stores
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mango sentinel posted:GW's store placement is its own issue but not allowing a competitor's product into your store is a pretty uncontroversial move. You wouldn't go into a small restaurant and talk loudly about how much better the place next door is, or sit down and eat a McDonald's hamburger. Not bringing product in is one thing, I was referring specifically to "Also try not to reference competitors out loud.", thinking that that meant you shouldn't talk about FFG games or Warmachine or whatever while you're playing 40K with someone in a GW store. Strobe posted:I dunno I'd be pretty annoyed with someone at a restaurant telling all my customers how great the competing restaurant across the street is. That's a straw man. I'm not advocating for telling all the GW customers to buy Warmachine instead. "Also try not to reference competitors out loud." seems to imply you can't even talk about other minis and such in the store.
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Nov 16, 2017 05:35
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from my experience the people working the store just try to quickly change the topic when a competitor is discussed and that's about it
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Nov 16, 2017 05:45
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These are all terrible answers. The correct behaviour when going into a GW store is to stare at boxes from armies you’ve yet to start collecting, go “Hmmm tempting”, waver, think about the backlog, the potential for raised spousal eyebrows, if the box is small enough to sneak home. And then you put it back and buy some more Orks, because if 60 Boyz is good, imagine what 90 will be like. It’s like some of you don’t even have a plastic crack addiction.
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Nov 16, 2017 12:32
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Milotic posted:These are all terrible answers. The correct behaviour when going into a GW store is to stare at boxes from armies you’ve yet to start collecting, go “Hmmm tempting”, waver, think about the backlog, the potential for raised spousal eyebrows, if the box is small enough to sneak home. Don't forget the old routine of going in for one pot of paint and coming out with at least triple that.
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Nov 16, 2017 12:40
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I actually went into the GW that I used to go to several years ago. The location changed, it has maybe 2 tables for playing and 1 for painting, down from 6 and a long workbench. There weren't any kids playing like there used to be, and this was a typical weekend.Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:the correct answer here is to not go into gw stores  mango sentinel posted:You wouldn't go into a small restaurant and talk loudly about how much better the place next door is, or sit down and eat a McDonald's hamburger.
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Nov 16, 2017 17:04
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Chill la Chill posted:Yes, it would be rude to do something like that at your LGS. However, GW is not a small business. Exactly, GW is mcdonald's in this situation
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Nov 16, 2017 17:13
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just don't be rude and consider buying something if you're going to use the space a lot. Unless your GW's manager is weird I doubt discussion of local area shops is completely verboten, just don't walk in telling everyone how much GW sucks My local GW is smaller than the LGSes around (1 painting table, 4-6 playing tables depending on setup) but the manager is easily way more helpful and nice than the local shops' employees.
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Nov 16, 2017 17:57
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Give me strength, I keep eyeing up the forgeworld chaos dwarfs, hey an exactly 1000 point army is pretty much bang on the free shipping threshold!
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Nov 17, 2017 18:54
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AnEdgelord posted:Exactly, GW is mcdonald's in this situation Well not really, the proper reference in this case would be don't eat a burger king burger in a McDonalds (Which the signs ask you not to do). Most of this poo poo is stuff they have to agree to do to get a job, not like these guys making minimum wage at GW stores are awful people for asking you to not use Proxies in the game that aren't GW models. And I've totally seen people paint at a GW with Valleyo paints painting at a table and they didn't ask them to not. I don't go into GW stores because they keep trying to sell me space marines, but again that is their job lol.
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Nov 18, 2017 18:10
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Ok I keep trying (and failing) to get started with this. I have a bunch of Khorne Daemons on round bases, and a pile of the Bloodborne Bloodbros from the boxed set. Do I need the Blades of Khorne book to use them? Or the reference cards? Or neither? And I have this year's General's Handbook but not the 2016 one. I also downloaded the Chaos Daemons PDF. There's a lot going on and it's confusing.
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Nov 18, 2017 20:56
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moths posted:Ok I keep trying (and failing) to get started with this. I have a bunch of Khorne Daemons on round bases, and a pile of the Bloodborne Bloodbros from the boxed set. Do I need the Blades of Khorne book to use them? Or the reference cards? Or neither? And I have this year's General's Handbook but not the 2016 one. I also downloaded the Chaos Daemons PDF. There's a lot going on and it's confusing. Strictly speaking, all you need to play is the 4-page main rules and the datacards found on each unit's page on GW's site.
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Nov 18, 2017 22:46
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I'm mostly interested since there have (apparently) been substantial improvements since that 4 page book.
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Nov 18, 2017 23:25
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moths posted:Ok I keep trying (and failing) to get started with this. I have a bunch of Khorne Daemons on round bases, and a pile of the Bloodborne Bloodbros from the boxed set. Do I need the Blades of Khorne book to use them? Or the reference cards? Or neither? And I have this year's General's Handbook but not the 2016 one. I also downloaded the Chaos Daemons PDF. There's a lot going on and it's confusing. The Blades of Khorne book would be perfect for you.
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Nov 18, 2017 23:49
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moths posted:I'm mostly interested since there have (apparently) been substantial improvements since that 4 page book. The 4 pages of rules haven't changed. The GHB will give you points, matches play rules, missions and allegiance abilities/artifacts. The Khorne Battletome will give you some army-specific abilities and artifacts. The 4 page book and your warscrolls are all you need to mechanically play a game of AoS, the rest is just more structure and army depth.
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Nov 19, 2017 04:23
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Ok, cool thanks guys. I'll look for the Khorne book!
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Nov 19, 2017 05:30
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Is the 2016 GHB null and void at this time? Or is everything other than points values still valid?
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Nov 20, 2017 15:51
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berzerkmonkey posted:Is the 2016 GHB null and void at this time? Or is everything other than points values still valid? The stuff in the Open Play and Narrative sections is still fine, and the Matched Play battleplans are still usable, but the Matched Play rules, points and allegiances are obsolete and replaced by the GHB 2017 and any tournaments will use the new battleplans.
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Nov 20, 2017 19:53
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Solemn Sloth posted:Give me strength, I keep eyeing up the forgeworld chaos dwarfs, hey an exactly 1000 point army is pretty much bang on the free shipping threshold! Do it. I bought a tonne of trolls of Forgeworld and have zero regrets.
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Nov 21, 2017 00:33
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lol@ goons acting like your local GW is some heinous shrine to evil your average GW is a small store run by a single dude who likes the hobby just like you and just wants to enjoy his day at work your non-average GW is a small store run by a grognard rear end in a top hat who you probably dont want to be around anyway
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Nov 21, 2017 04:53
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a cock shaped fruit posted:your non-average GW is a small store run by a grognard rear end in a top hat who you probably dont want to be around anyway True, but I get discounts and freebies from him so what you gonna do?
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Nov 21, 2017 05:05
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Atlas Hugged posted:True, but I get discounts and freebies from him so what you gonna do? be around him long enough to get the goods and get out alternatively, you too are part grog
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Nov 21, 2017 05:50
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a cock shaped fruit posted:alternatively, you too are part grog Have you seen my post history?
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Nov 21, 2017 06:06
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a cock shaped fruit posted:be around him long enough to get the goods and get out Well, I do play historicals and I have Opinions, so I am a grog. Joke's on you, my country is too small for GW stores!
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Nov 21, 2017 08:27
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a cock shaped fruit posted:lol@ goons acting like your local GW is some heinous shrine to evil This is pretty much my situation, there's only one GW I actively avoid going to in this area but luckily it's the furthest away. Meanwhile, the only LGS that's still open any more that carries Hams is ran by a clueless grog out of a dusty, drafty old warehouse infested with the worst neckbeards in the local scene. I'd love for a more vibrant indie store scene, but until then I don't mind my GWs.
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Nov 21, 2017 14:13
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a cock shaped fruit posted:lol@ goons acting like your local GW is some heinous shrine to evil It could be for all I know. I've not seen it open when going past for years. I know it isn't shut down because I know people that go there, but I still haven't ever seen the shutters up since they changed their opening times.
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I played AoS for the first time on Friday with friends. Dispossessed vs Beastclaw Raiders, Disciples of Tzeentch and Skellies. It was really good fun. Descended into a brawl between Death and Tzeentch when my supposed team mate went “Can I attack you then” Thoughts: Holy crap, the Mortarch that comes with the Skellies Start Collecting box is brutal. It was like getting Tesla’d to buggery in the hero phase, and then in CC he was also brutal. The Beastclaw Raider leader model is gorgeous Tzeentch Destiny dice are good fun - you can use the 4s you get on the Chaos Spawn to roll doubles, and then that gives you +1 to hit and wound. I was running a very unoptimised list - an Arcanite Hero would have given +1 to wound for some of my army which would have been huge. Don’t get Screamers stuck into infantry - it’s a waste - move them over the unit to do some mortal wounds but use them against monsters for the D3 damage. I need to look at some of the formations - they have some nice stuff. Heralds on foot are a little fragile, I was lucky I didn’t get targeted. All the buffs he put out would have gone - need to get some redundancy in my army Tzaangors continue to impress in both this and 40K. If you want something done, send in the beakies.
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Milotic posted:I played AoS for the first time on Friday with friends. Dispossessed vs Beastclaw Raiders, Disciples of Tzeentch and Skellies. It was really good fun. Descended into a brawl between Death and Tzeentch when my supposed team mate went “Can I attack you then” There is also no reason to ever buy a Mortarch on their own when you can get ether the battleforce box or the start collecting box. As the Mortarch more or less costs the the entire price (Or half the price in the upcoming battleforce box.
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Nov 27, 2017 10:32
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MonsterEnvy posted:There is also no reason to ever buy a Mortarch on their own when you can get ether the battleforce box or the start collecting box. As the Mortarch more or less costs the the entire price (Or half the price in the upcoming battleforce box. There's a few boxes like this. The Ironjawz SC (Everything but the Gore Gruntaz are free) and the Seraphon SC (everything but the Carnosaur)
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Nov 27, 2017 12:59
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I ended up getting a pretty good haul of Khorne Blood Bound. I've never played them, and I'm not sure what's good, but they look awesome as hell and I've always wanted a Khorne army. Here's what I got: Bloodthirster (with giant 2 handed axe) 3 Bloodsecrators 1 Mighty Lord of Khorne 1 Slaughter Priest 6 Khorgorath 1 Skarr Bloodwrath 1 Aspiring Deathbringer (Goreaxe & Skullhammer) 3 Mighty Skullcrushers 5 Wrathmongers (that aren't built. I could build them as the other option - skull takers?) 10 Blood Warriors 20 Blood Reavers And of course, I have Garrek Gorebeards Warband from Underworlds. What Can I do with this list? Any tips for tactics?
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Nov 30, 2017 18:44
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Zuul the Cat posted:I ended up getting a pretty good haul of Khorne Blood Bound. I've never played them, and I'm not sure what's good, but they look awesome as hell and I've always wanted a Khorne army.  Wip
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Nov 30, 2017 19:36
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Finally played this a few weeks ago. 4-player game using an acquaintance's models and list. I had a 60-gob night goblin mob, netters and fanatics and all, good stuff. a netter managed to take the last wound off a bloodthirster. shame about the terrible, paper-thin setting.
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Nov 30, 2017 20:03
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Zuul the Cat posted:I ended up getting a pretty good haul of Khorne Blood Bound. I've never played them, and I'm not sure what's good, but they look awesome as hell and I've always wanted a Khorne army. Well, you RIP AND TEAR of course. KBB is a very buff-focused army, all about using those heroes to make your battlelines unstoppable range monsters. 3 Bloodsecrators will go a long, long way.
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I've recently started playing Bloodbound and they are a lot of fun. However I came up against a Tzeenetch army last week dull of ranged attacks and ofc lots of mortal wound dealing spells. It was a catastrophe and I felt I had literally no answers. By the time I closed he tar pitted me with pink/blue/brimstone horrors, while shooting and spelling me to death. It was my first totally unfun AoS game. Most upsetting was losing Skaarac turn one without him even moving. Not sure how to counter other than add a hit more speed to the force maybe with Skullcrushers. I was also debating running the Gore Pilgrims battalion for the increased totem ranges and rerolls for the priests but it seems expensive at 180 points.
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Nov 30, 2017 20:56
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Serotonin posted:I've recently started playing Bloodbound and they are a lot of fun. However I came up against a Tzeenetch army last week dull of ranged attacks and ofc lots of mortal wound dealing spells. It was a catastrophe and I felt I had literally no answers. By the time I closed he tar pitted me with pink/blue/brimstone horrors, while shooting and spelling me to death. It was my first totally unfun AoS game. Most upsetting was losing Skaarac turn one without him even moving. Skyfires are pretty fragile if you can catch them and get the first attack in combat. I don't know what kind of ranged capabilities KBB has but I'm guessing "not much", so you may want to use the battalion for the better chance of going first if you can get your boys fast enough to cross the table in a turn. alternatively put the biggest LOS blocking terrain piece you got in the middle of the board Tzeentch can be a really crap army to play against in casual games if they aren't taking it easy in list building
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I just got the Bloodbound book, it really reminds me of the 7e 40k Daemonkin in a lot of good ways. Weren't there a bunch of fixes to the core game, like ditching the every turn go-first roll and stuff? I have the 2017 general companion but not the other one.
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Nov 30, 2017 22:40
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moths posted:I just got the Bloodbound book, it really reminds me of the 7e 40k Daemonkin in a lot of good ways. nope, the 6 page core rules haven't changed. Still got the turn roll-offs. Its accessible at in the AoS app if you got that, for some reason they didn't print it in this year's GHB. I think the core is pretty solid still. Random turn order and no shooting restrictions are hard to get used to, but you just account for them the same as any other rules (and I think the potential double turn makes the first turn weaker than it is in other games like 40k, which is good). There are rumors that a rules update is coming next year though, and I would welcome some kind of Hero shooting-at restriction similar to 40k 8th edition.
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how are the skypirate dwarfs? i bought two boxes of something of theirs because they looked cool, but if age of Sigmar has become fun and they’re not awful i might as well also play the game
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Pretty solid. They play lot like the T'au in 40k, very shooty, very fast in their transports. Not as crunchy in melee as other Dwarves, but some of their units (anything with an Aethersaw) can mix it up rather well. They've also got some neat army rules with their Kharadron Codes, multiple artefact lists and the different canon Skyports all giving bonuses.
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Alright, so I got all my Khorne stuff. Looks like I’m sitting at just over 2,000 points. I think if I expand these dudes at all it’ll be to get more blood warriors. also, am I reading the Khorgaroth rules right - their ability to lower leadership stacks? So I should definitely run 3 units of 2?
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