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Interesting note on the Oathgate: The spren that operate it are described as ebony and white/light. Or a giant inkspren and lightspren, which are the spren of Elsecallers and Willshapers--which have the Transportation surge. There's probably a pair of largish gems in the heart of every Oathgate that makes them function.
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TheMirage posted:Question about Oathgates. I think that one was still locked
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Tunicate posted:I think that one was still locked That was the Thaylen City one, so it was unlocked and regularly used. Apparently they have a Shadesmar setting, and that functionality was locked by Honor before his existential failure. The physical realm function was manually locked by the Radiants when they abandoned Urithiru and went to break their oaths and drop their shards.
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i just started reading oathbringer and got to shallans first chapter and she cant even go 3 pages without starting up w/ her horse poo poo "Brightness?" the woman asked as they walked. "Can I ask you a question?" "As that was a question, apparently you can." "Oh, um. Huh." "It's fine. What do you want to know?" "You're... a Radiant." "That one was actually a statement, and that's making me doubt my previous assertion." uuugh shut the gently caress up
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That is a neat exchange what's your problem.
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Law Cheetah posted:i just started reading oathbringer and got to shallans first chapter and she cant even go 3 pages without starting up w/ her horse poo poo you might like one of her other personalities though
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See, that's what happens when you go for a low-rent Jasnah.
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Yeah but Jasnah is the best character in the series. Everyone's low-rent compared to her.
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Hopefully Shallan is better next book, like Kaladin was in this one. Hell, we have plenty of potential depression to look forward to with Teft's self-loathing and Rock having broken his oath(?) of not taking up arms in order to save Kaladin, even if what he killed wasn't very human at that point.  aparmenideanmonad posted:Some of them (Ones Above referenced in Sixth of the Dust) also get around in the physical realm on spaceships, but that's set pretty far ahead in the Cosmere timeline compared to the other books. In that case the Ones Above are (not confirmed?) people from Scadrial. The 3rd (now 4th?) Mistborn series that Sanderson planned is a futuristic one where those people have developed FTL technology, which I believe is based on their allomancy so it's not likely to be something used by many other worlds even by that point. Not to mention, in the couple centuries since the Lord Ruler was defeated Scadrial has had significant and rapid development of technology. And not all regions devleoped the same way as we see in Bands of Mourning, so there will likely be even more rapid advancements now that the people of Elendel have made a new
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Evil Fluffy posted:Hopefully Shallan is better next book, like Kaladin was in this one. Hell, we have plenty of potential depression to look forward to with Teft's self-loathing and Rock having broken his oath(?) of not taking up arms in order to save Kaladin, even if what he killed wasn't very human at that point. Yeah it's gotta be Scadrial as the other planets are all rooted in Medieval Age technology while on Scadrial they're rolling around with trains and guns and a plane.
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Evil Fluffy posted:Hopefully Shallan is better next book, like Kaladin was in this one. Hell, we have plenty of potential depression to look forward to with Teft's self-loathing and Rock having broken his oath(?) of not taking up arms in order to save Kaladin, even if what he killed wasn't very human at that point. I can't imagine she won't be since didn't she decide to integrate her personalities and just be Shallon at the end? ConfusedUs posted:Yeah but Jasnah is the best character in the series. Everyone's low-rent compared to her. You mean after Lopen, right?
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Proteus Jones posted:I can't imagine she won't be since didn't she decide to integrate her personalities and just be Shallon at the end? Nah she decided 3 was the limit and so it's gonna be her, Brightness Radiant, and Veil.
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VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:Nah she decided 3 was the limit and so it's gonna be her, Brightness Radiant, and Veil. Ugh. I take back what I said since I obviously misremembered.
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Proteus Jones posted:You mean after Lopen, right? The Lopen transcends labels. The Lopen isn't best. The Lopen simply is.
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VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:Nah she decided 3 was the limit and so it's gonna be her, Brightness Radiant, and Veil. This isn't the final stopping point for that arc, so we'll see how she develops
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Daric posted:Yeah it's gotta be Scadrial as the other planets are all rooted in Medieval Age technology while on Scadrial they're rolling around with trains and guns and a plane. This is why I'm looking forward to the eventual timeskip and the books that take place after it (even though we probably won't see them for another decade since they'd be books 6+). You just know we're going to get characters from the Wax and Wayne books ending up on Roshar at Harmony's urging, especially if/when he figures out that the external threat he's dealing with is from Odium. It probably won't be Wax but I'd love for it to be Wayne, MeLaan(?), and maybe someone else to make the trip. Bonus points if they get to use the Bands as well since the only thing that'd freak people out more than guns or a shapeshifter (who probably can't be hurt by shardblades unless you destroy their spikes) would be a gunman who has powers that make most Radiants look like frail children. But really I just want Lopen and Wayne to meet and start trying to out-bullshit one another before joining forces to kick rear end across the Cosmere.
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Tunicate posted:This isn't the final stopping point for that arc, so we'll see how she develops It's already kind of wacky by the end, her personalities seemed to be interacting with each other though I'd have to reread it.
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Evil Fluffy posted:This is why I'm looking forward to the eventual timeskip and the books that take place after it (even though we probably won't see them for another decade since they'd be books 6+). You just know we're going to get characters from the Wax and Wayne books ending up on Roshar at Harmony's urging, especially if/when he figures out that the external threat he's dealing with is from Odium. It probably won't be Wax but I'd love for it to be Wayne, MeLaan(?), and maybe someone else to make the trip. Bonus points if they get to use the Bands as well since the only thing that'd freak people out more than guns or a shapeshifter (who probably can't be hurt by shardblades unless you destroy their spikes) would be a gunman who has powers that make most Radiants look like frail children. I think if Lopen and Wayne met, Wayne would immediately try to copy or impersonate him, succeed, and the whole of the Cosmere would collapse into itself from the strain.
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I can see Wayne and Lopen accidentally doing everything Hoid is deliberately doing with gathering magic powers, except even better. And not even realize they're doing it. And using those powers in front of Hoid, but better and more creatively, leaving him going "What the loving gently caress?" I can see a reformed Adonalsium at the end, and when someone asks it about those two Everythingmancers doing wacky poo poo around the universe it just facepalms and mutters about mistakes being made.
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One of my friends asked Brandon what Lopen's deep dark secret was turns out he doesn't have one. He got tossed into bridge four because he annoyed the wrong person, and is actually a well-balanced individual
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TheMirage posted:There is already at least one (possibly two) Scadrian on Roshar through right? Iyatil and maybe Mraize not to mention felt
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ekeog posted:not to mention felt And any Kandra we don't know about.
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jebrown84 posted:And any Kandra we don't know about. Super spys on MY planet? Why I never...
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jebrown84 posted:And any Kandra we don't know about. Seen a theory that Dalinar's guide to the Nightwatcher might have been a kandra. Anyway. I wonder if maybe the Kandra can crossbreed with humans now and Sazed just didn't tell them because that would gently caress with their free will. It seems like the sort of thing Sazed would do, and he did give the Koloss a way out of their racial dead end.
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I think Felt probably isn't a Kandra, just because we already know who house Venture's kandra was
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TheMirage posted:There is already at least one (possibly two) Scadrian on Roshar through right? Iyatil and maybe Mraize Mraize hasn't done anything that suggests they're from Scadrial IIRC, but they do have a pet bird that's from First of the Sun (Sixth of Dusk's setting).
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Mraize uses Thaylen words I think. Iyatil is the worldhopper, probably some sort of twinborn?
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VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:Mraize uses Thaylen words I think. Iyatil is the worldhopper, probably some sort of twinborn? I don't think we've seen her use any investiture.
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VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:Mraize uses Thaylen words I think. Iyatil is the worldhopper, probably some sort of twinborn? https://coppermind.net/wiki/Mraize He might be a Roshar native but he's a worldhopper. He also has items from various worlds including 'heavy hairpins' that might actually be hemalurgic spikes. and bones with writing on them (which would be from the monks in Elantris).
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Unless Sazed fixed things, IIRC you can't keep hemalurgic spikes outside of the body.jebrown84 posted:I don't think we've seen her use any investiture. She's described as superhumanly fast in WoR IIRC.
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VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:Unless Sazed fixed things, IIRC you can't keep hemalurgic spikes outside of the body. It's sort of an asymptotic degradation, and you can stop it by keeping them in blood (or maybe in aluminum?)
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Wax has Vin's earring, which he received in Shadows of Self(?) IIRC and I'm pretty sure that has spent a fair amount of time outside of a body over the years.
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Evil Fluffy posted:Wax has Vin's earring, which he received in Shadows of Self(?) IIRC and I'm pretty sure that has spent a fair amount of time outside of a body over the years. You can keep the spikes themselves, but once a spike has been powered up you either have to keep it in a body or inside of blood or the power leaks out. Nothing happens to the spike itself. In the case you're talking about, it's still a perfectly usable spike without any power it may have contained from that person in the intervening years.
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Whole bunch of WoB updated on the coppermind. He's basically confirmed that Roshar humans came from Ashyn, the first world of the Roshar system that's featured in the story The Silence Divine. The magic system that destroyed that world was "similar" to surgebinding, but not quite the same. He also confirms Azure=Vivenna, not that it wasn't entirely obvious. One of the letters comes from First of the Sun's Shard, which is the actual island Patji. Somehow. Edit: Yeah, different silence. Still, that's the word from the man; since its unpub'd it's not Hard canon but the broad strokes are probably correct. OAquinas fucked around with this message at 06:51 on Dec 3, 2017 |
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The silence divine is unpublished and not related to shadows for silence in the forests of hell.
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I've been waiting for this book for so long, it's loaded into my kindle, but I can't read it yet because of finals. If it was a shorter book I would read it without feeling guilty, but it's so big I can't
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OAquinas posted:One of the letters comes from First of the Sun's Shard, which is the actual island Patji. Somehow. That's interesting, especially because I thought Sanderson explicitly said sometime else that there is no shard in that system, just the perpendicularity on Patji.
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Xenix posted:That's interesting, especially because I thought Sanderson explicitly said sometime else that there is no shard in that system, just the perpendicularity on Patji. He did say "a big asterisk" so there's undoubtedly something nonstandard about it.
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