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Return Of JimmyJars
Jun 24, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
One of my Venezuelan co workers quit/retired today because he had a shitload of Bitcoin in a wallet which was originally destined for family back in Venezuela. He cashed it out over the last few weeks and is now done working.

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Professor of Cats
Mar 22, 2009

Return Of JimmyJars posted:

One of my Venezuelan co workers quit/retired today because he had a shitload of Bitcoin in a wallet which was originally destined for family back in Venezuela. He cashed it out over the last few weeks and is now done working.

WHAT SOMEONE MADE MONEY BUT THE BUBBLE

/relax everyone else, I'm just yanking your chains

A MIRACLE
Sep 17, 2007

All right. It's Saturday night; I have no date, a two-liter bottle of Shasta and my all-Rush mix-tape... Let's rock.

That’s awesome, good for him. I dabble every couple of months and ride it up 20% or so then cash out on coinbase. If you follow the news it’s pretty easy to guess when to buy and sell and profit take/speculate. Just don’t put a lot of money in lol

Manic Technophile
Nov 13, 2017

by FactsAreUseless

A MIRACLE posted:

Just don’t put a lot of money in lol
Yeah, you wouldn't want to end up with a free house or anything.

A MIRACLE
Sep 17, 2007

All right. It's Saturday night; I have no date, a two-liter bottle of Shasta and my all-Rush mix-tape... Let's rock.

Or do I’m not your dad

Also good luck converting bitcoin into house money

Stealthgerbil
Dec 16, 2004


Bitcoin sucks for buying drugs, i would rather pay with ethereum because then I would only pay like 10 cents in fees instead of 5 bucks. Plus it would go through way faster.

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

I deeply respect you as a human being... Some day I'm gonna make you *Mrs* Buck Turgidson!


Grimey Drawer
And I mean again as someone pointed out, way less anonymous than just using cash lol

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

Stefan Prodan posted:

And I mean again as someone pointed out, way less anonymous than just using cash lol

blockchain

putin is a cunt
Apr 5, 2007

BOY DO I SURE ENJOY TRASH. THERE'S NOTHING MORE I LOVE THAN TO SIT DOWN IN FRONT OF THE BIG SCREEN AND EAT A BIIIIG STEAMY BOWL OF SHIT. WARNER BROS CAN COME OVER TO MY HOUSE AND ASSFUCK MY MOM WHILE I WATCH AND I WOULD CERTIFY IT FRESH, NO QUESTION
If a drug dealers wallet is compromised then it's trivial for law enforcement to see literally every single transaction and who it came from. I have no idea where this nonsense about Bitcoin being anonymous came from. The blockchain is completely public.

Fallows
Jan 20, 2005

If he waits long enough he can use his accrued interest from his savings to bring his negative checking balance back into the black.

Stefan Prodan posted:

And I mean again as someone pointed out, way less anonymous than just using cash lol

u need the cash to snort the drugs with

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost
did anyone say buttcoin yet?

Gobbeldygook
May 13, 2009
Hates Native American people and tries to justify their genocides.

Put this racist on ignore immediately!

a hot gujju bhabhi posted:

If a drug dealers wallet is compromised then it's trivial for law enforcement to see literally every single transaction and who it came from. I have no idea where this nonsense about Bitcoin being anonymous came from. The blockchain is completely public.
You can still buy bitcoin anonymously and use it to pay your internet drug dealer. That's why it's "anonymous". It doesn't matter if a transaction is public if LEO can't connect you to the transaction.

The list of ways to send someone $1000 without linking it to your identity or necessarily knowing who you're sending it to is pretty short.

CassandraZara
Oct 21, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo

a hot gujju bhabhi posted:

If a drug dealers wallet is compromised then it's trivial for law enforcement to see literally every single transaction and who it came from. I have no idea where this nonsense about Bitcoin being anonymous came from. The blockchain is completely public.

If you're talking about looking it up on the blockchain, then all they have is a wallet address. Sure, they might be able to trace those coins back to something like Coinbase who might be able to be subpoenaed and might give that information up, or Coinbase might tell them to gently caress off. If you just bought them from your buddy, who bought them from their buddy, and so on, then the trail could run cold.

If you're talking about they're literally in the drug dealer's home and he has your home address written down somewhere, you'd run into the same problem if you mailed him a stack of cash.

Cash is better for buying drugs though and who doesn't know a drug dealer in real life, lol.

klafbang
Nov 18, 2009
Clapping Larry

CassandraZara posted:

If you're talking about looking it up on the blockchain, then all they have is a wallet address. Sure, they might be able to trace those coins back to something like Coinbase who might be able to be subpoenaed and might give that information up, or Coinbase might tell them to gently caress off. If you just bought them from your buddy, who bought them from their buddy, and so on, then the trail could run cold.

That is... not true at all. Sure, you have just a wallet address if Coinbase refuses to give up user info (lol, they won't). But with that, you can see all transactions coming in and going out. Buy a pizza from the same address (lol, as if you could buy anything but drugs)? They know whereabouts you live. Transfer to or receive drug money from a buddy? They now have two targets.

You can bounce transactions around a bit, but that's a lot harder to do than it was in the 80s.

Sestze
Jun 6, 2004



Cybernetic Crumb
Someone asked me about bitcoin today, someone wanted to write a report on it.

I had a hard time explaining how bitcoin had any net worth, what it meant from a political perspective and what it's typically used for (petty/darknet crime) and now what it's used for (larger scale white collar crime). This poo poo's so twisted and impenetrable that seems to get people's eyes shining with dollar signs before they can really understand what "inherently deflationary", "without regulation" and "tied to lesser (and soon to be greater) criminal enterprises"

The real kicker was when I was trying to explain how the currency itself was being propped by the secondary cryptocurrency of Etherium that uses those investment markers to keep the price of bitcoin at a certain level, and how when there wasn't enough money to shuffle around in those particular markers, they'll either collapse (taking bitcoin with it) or another form of markers will show up, creating a shell game of where the money exists within the system. At this point both the kid and the teacher that were asking about it had their eyes glaze over, and the teacher decided "there's no way we're covering that."

Sestze fucked around with this message at 11:22 on Dec 1, 2017

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Gobbeldygook posted:

You can still buy bitcoin anonymously and use it to pay your internet drug dealer. That's why it's "anonymous". It doesn't matter if a transaction is public if LEO can't connect you to the transaction.

The list of ways to send someone $1000 without linking it to your identity or necessarily knowing who you're sending it to is pretty short.

But that handful of methods for buying bitcoin anonymously is going to require cash, usually at a premium over using an exchange. But then why not just pay the drug dealer with the cash? Using bitcoin to pay a person who you're meeting anyway just seems pointless and also more expensive

Bitcoin is necessary for using online drug marketplaces but then you're having that poo poo delivered to your address and that's sure as gently caress not anonymous

Irom
May 16, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

QuarkJets posted:

Bitcoin is necessary for using online drug marketplaces but then you're having that poo poo delivered to your address and that's sure as gently caress not anonymous

"I didn't order that."

blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?

Irom posted:

"I didn't order that."

“Save it for the judge”

vortmax
Sep 24, 2008

In meteorology, vorticity often refers to a measurement of the spin of horizontally flowing air about a vertical axis.

CassandraZara posted:

If you're talking about looking it up on the blockchain, then all they have is a wallet address. Sure, they might be able to trace those coins back to something like Coinbase who might be able to be subpoenaed and might give that information up, or Coinbase might tell them to gently caress off.

Coinbase is currently turning over tons of information to the IRS, so I wouldn't rely on them telling anyone to gently caress off.

And my dealer takes PayPal, Facebook pay, and credit cards through Square, but I usually pay cash anyway. All of those are far easier than paying with bitscoin.

scott zoloft
Dec 7, 2015

yeah same

Pitdragon posted:

realistically speaking when do you guys think this bubble will burst?

I thought yesterday but I guess not

Uranium 235
Oct 12, 2004

You can just use Monero for buying drugs, or use Monero to 'clean' bitcoin (make it so that your identity isn't tied to a bitcoin address).

a bone to pick
Sep 14, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
When is the bubble gunna pop so I stop feeling like an idiot for not buying bitcoins?

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


a bone to pick posted:

When is the bubble gunna pop so I stop feeling like an idiot for not buying bitcoins?

Tuesday.

ghosTTy
Sep 22, 2008

bitcoin is going to reach 15k in the next week. u mad???? bitch!!! u madd?? hahahaha i will be rich and u will be mad

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

a bone to pick posted:

When is the bubble gunna pop so I stop feeling like an idiot for not buying bitcoins?

Your bitcoins would have been stolen anyway

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


Manic Technophile posted:

Yeah, you wouldn't want to end up with a free house or anything.

drat, if only you put your entire life savings into enron when their stock was going up Up UP then you'd have a "free house" right now too, except you wouldn't own it and the homeless charity requires you to be out by 7am.

Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

Uranium 235 posted:

You can just use Monero for buying drugs, or use Monero to 'clean' bitcoin (make it so that your identity isn't tied to a bitcoin address).

Oh

That’s why it’s doubled in value, nice going, drugs

ghosTTy
Sep 22, 2008

ahhahaha my kitchen appliances will be worth more than u :sonia: :sonia:

ghosTTy fucked around with this message at 09:12 on Jan 21, 2018

Uranium 235
Oct 12, 2004

Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:

Oh

That’s why it’s doubled in value, nice going, drugs
yeah it offers a lot more anonymity and privacy than bitcoin

every privacy coin, no matter how lovely, has significantly increased in price in the last several months

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Manic Technophile posted:

Yeah, you wouldn't want to end up with a free house or anything.

So I take it you've gone all in with your life savings and taken out a bunch of loans to buy bitcoins?

If not, why not? Aren't you turning down free houses?

Manic Technophile
Nov 13, 2017

by FactsAreUseless

QuarkJets posted:

So I take it you've gone all in with your life savings and taken out a bunch of loans to buy bitcoins?

If not, why not? Aren't you turning down free houses?
Yeah I'm all in but no loans.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Manic Technophile posted:

Yeah I'm all in but no loans.

All in in what sense? All in with play money? All in with all of your savings? All in with all of your savings and dumping all of your disposable income into it?

Why no loans?

ugh its Troika
May 2, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Lol at that permabanned retard admitting who he was and getting owned.

Tiberius Christ
Mar 4, 2009

a bone to pick posted:

When is the bubble gunna pop so I stop feeling like an idiot for not buying bitcoins?

it aint never gonna pop were gonna ride it to $100k per bitcoin baby!

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


kicking myself for not picking the powerball numbers correctly.

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

QuarkJets posted:

All in in what sense? All in with play money? All in with all of your savings? All in with all of your savings and dumping all of your disposable income into it?

Why no loans?

its seraph so it's either kiddie porn or star citizen

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

So all in with virtual spaceship lifetime insurance I guess lol

jonathan
Jul 3, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

exploded mummy posted:

its seraph so it's either kiddie porn or star citizen

For a moment I thought I was in that GBS Star citizen thread that I was reading yesterday. It's amazing how the bitcoin thread and the star citizen thread are 100% indistinguishable without context.

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

jonathan posted:

For a moment I thought I was in that GBS Star citizen thread that I was reading yesterday. It's amazing how the bitcoin thread and the star citizen thread are 100% indistinguishable without context.

makes you think

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spandexcajun
Feb 28, 2005

Suck the head for a little extra cajun flavor
Fallen Rib
It's not bitcoin, it's either, but I made $200 this weekend playing cryptokitties.co !

Finally, a litigate use for crypto. Eat it haters.

https://techcrunch.com/2017/12/03/people-have-spent-over-1m-buying-virtual-cats-on-the-ethereum-blockchain/

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