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Falstaff
Apr 27, 2008

I have a kind of alacrity in sinking.

Groovelord Neato posted:

every american should read the new jim crow.

and all these clowns should be forced to read it and mismeasure of man.

100% agreed. Follow it with a chaser of White Trash.

Then maybe the Communist Manifesto, for good measure and to end on a hopeful note.

And while we're at it, I'd like a pony.

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aware of dog
Nov 14, 2016
Apparently a bunch of 4channers are trying to get Kraut and Tea kicked off YouTube.

I guess he just wasn't racist enough for them? :shrug:

Fututor Magnus
Feb 22, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
this is sort of related to the discussion of streamers and such, but check this out and the article:

https://twitter.com/PCGamesN/status/936198212054142976

but if you want to get really mad, check out the replies to it by a bunch of blue checkmarks (people big in esports, i guess) defending the people implicated in the article for the stupidest reason possible. what the gently caress is wrong with esports?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I mean it's full of people who play competitive videogames that's probably not a good start.

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

Yeah, take a bunch of loving nerds, and then give them recognition and money for being good at being loving nerds. I'm not sure how you'd get anything else.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Lovechop posted:

new vid from my good lad shaun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wayFC5560lw

smashing it as usual

Holy loving poo poo. I don't think Shaun was joking when he said he's calm and monotone in his videos because outside of them he's raging mad all the time.

Just watching clips of ignorance shows my blood. I want to point and laugh and get some comedy value out of these things like Hbomberguy seems to but holy balls, I don't think I can.

KiteAuraan
Aug 5, 2014

JER GEDDA FERDA RADDA ARA!


aware of dog posted:

Apparently a bunch of 4channers are trying to get Kraut and Tea kicked off YouTube.

I guess he just wasn't racist enough for them? :shrug:

Isn't he like, amazingly racist and also AMAZINGLY unhinged? Maybe they think he's a liability due to that tendency to get into insane conspiratorial drama?

Kokoro Wish
Jul 23, 2007

Post? What post? Oh wow.
I had nothing to do with THAT.

KiteAuraan posted:

Isn't he like, amazingly racist and also AMAZINGLY unhinged? Maybe they think he's a liability due to that tendency to get into insane conspiratorial drama?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4be-OeVrQM

fallenturtle
Feb 28, 2003
paintedblue.net
Holy poo poo, I can't believe I'm still surprised with just how stupid and racist No Bullshit is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxXobjxPiN8

Summary: NBS believes suburbs are primarily white because white people don't want to live in black neighborhoods because black people are criminals and because white Christians people built them, that red lining has no influence because it happened a long time ago, and that minorities are sore losers because white people rule. Plus something about the Jews.

Linear Zoetrope
Nov 28, 2011

A hero must cook

fallenturtle posted:

Summary: NBS believes suburbs are primarily white because white people don't want to live in black neighborhoods because black people are criminals and because white Christians people built them[...]

Wait, I'm confused about how this point is wrong as you presented it unless it's dumber in context (likely). I mean, "because black people are criminals" is racist, but white flight was/is absolutely a form of soft segregation used to escape from federal desegregation orders (feds forcing you to integrate your school with black and brown people? Take your ball and go to a new section of town with its own school district!) done because of the perception that POC would increase crime rates/ruin schools/cause miscegenation/whatever.

Like, it's not the only reason, but there are a lot of towns where you can actively link the current racial population distribution in town with whites running away like children from POC mixing into their neighborhoods (either via regulation or naturally).

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Linear Zoetrope posted:

Wait, I'm confused about how this point is wrong as you presented it unless it's dumber in context (likely). I mean, "because black people are criminals" is racist, but white flight was/is absolutely a form of soft segregation used to escape from federal desegregation orders (feds forcing you to integrate your school with black and brown people? Take your ball and go to a new section of town with its own school district!) done because of the perception that POC would increase crime rates/ruin schools/cause miscegenation/whatever.

Like, it's not the only reason, but there are a lot of towns where you can actively link the current racial population distribution in town with whites running away like children from POC mixing into their neighborhoods (either via regulation or naturally).

*cough cough* DETROIT *cough cough*

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

Jimbot posted:

Holy loving poo poo. I don't think Shaun was joking when he said he's calm and monotone in his videos because outside of them he's raging mad all the time.

Just watching clips of ignorance shows my blood. I want to point and laugh and get some comedy value out of these things like Hbomberguy seems to but holy balls, I don't think I can.

Even in Shaun's brief excerpts, I need to take breaks. It's infuriating.

little munchkin
Aug 15, 2010

Fututor Magnus posted:

this is sort of related to the discussion of streamers and such, but check this out and the article:

https://twitter.com/PCGamesN/status/936198212054142976

but if you want to get really mad, check out the replies to it by a bunch of blue checkmarks (people big in esports, i guess) defending the people implicated in the article for the stupidest reason possible. what the gently caress is wrong with esports?

eh, that article is misleading. that award show is just some meaningless pr sham, they had to recognize two disgraced d-listers because who else could be bothered to show up? plenty of production companies, tournament organizers, and sponsors are quick to drop shitheads, but you can't fully blacklist people because the industry is in the wild west stage. there's no unions or governing body or anything (at least in the US, china and south korea have some). If multiple companies fire someone but one place hires him, that doesn't sound like the industry as a whole is choosing him to represent them.

also a lot of the people mentioned have nothing to do with esports. the whole tmar thing is extremely scummy but he's not a competitive player so that doesn't fit the writers thesis statement at all

as the comments show though, the stereotypes about the fans are all true.

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

The Game Awards? As in the Video Game Awards? As in Spike T.V. Presents: The Video Game Awards?

That poo poo is still going??! I think the last time I saw it was back in probably 2005. Please tell me it's a bit more dignified now than it was back then?

fallenturtle
Feb 28, 2003
paintedblue.net

Linear Zoetrope posted:

Wait, I'm confused about how this point is wrong as you presented it unless it's dumber in context (likely). I mean, "because black people are criminals" is racist, but white flight was/is absolutely a form of soft segregation used to escape from federal desegregation orders (feds forcing you to integrate your school with black and brown people? Take your ball and go to a new section of town with its own school district!) done because of the perception that POC would increase crime rates/ruin schools/cause miscegenation/whatever.

Like, it's not the only reason, but there are a lot of towns where you can actively link the current racial population distribution in town with whites running away like children from POC mixing into their neighborhoods (either via regulation or naturally).

He wasn't referring to white flight. He was talking about contemporary times. Sorry if my summary was misleading.

it shaun
Jun 6, 2017

KiteAuraan posted:

Isn't he like, amazingly racist and also AMAZINGLY unhinged? Maybe they think he's a liability due to that tendency to get into insane conspiratorial drama?

Kraut hates Muslims with a passion, but never went in for the alt-right's antisemitism as he has Jewish family, I believe. So he's between a rock and a hard place.

His channel has been shedding subscribers for months. "Racist in one specific way but not in another" is kind of a small target audience. He also tends to get obsessed with whoever he's currently arguing about, so I'm leaving him alone while him & the alt-right chumps fight it out.

Stormgale
Feb 27, 2010

I find this hard lining kind of interesting, you have a lot of alt-right panderers in one way or another slowly being decried as "Not racist enough" or a degenerate in some way to get to that nugget of pure Nazi.

Mr Interweb posted:

The Game Awards? As in the Video Game Awards? As in Spike T.V. Presents: The Video Game Awards?

That poo poo is still going??! I think the last time I saw it was back in probably 2005. Please tell me it's a bit more dignified now than it was back then?

You'll be surprised to hear it's not.

(2012) http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-10-24-lost-humanity-18-a-table-of-doritos

Stormgale fucked around with this message at 10:50 on Dec 1, 2017

little munchkin
Aug 15, 2010

Mr Interweb posted:

The Game Awards? As in the Video Game Awards? As in Spike T.V. Presents: The Video Game Awards?

That poo poo is still going??! I think the last time I saw it was back in probably 2005. Please tell me it's a bit more dignified now than it was back then?

not sure if you even read the article but the picture is from the "Esport Industry Awards", it's just as much of a meaningless circlejerk as the video game awards except without the meager amount of prestige and audience that comes with being on a low-budget cable network

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


trevor martin should probably be in jail so it's insane the cod devs invited him to rep their game.

gotta laugh at the article though cuz when they mention diversity at desks they don't mention the most visible lady caster/host sheever.

Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 14:09 on Dec 1, 2017

little munchkin
Aug 15, 2010

Groovelord Neato posted:

trevor martin should probably be in jail so it's insane the cod devs invited him to rep their game.

it's hosed up how the betting sites are legal and unregulated, that's way more of an issue than some dude saying "retard" on twitter. the profits are so good that even the production companies with a good reputation end up advertising online casinos to their teenage audiences.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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Hey guys a person I have seen Shaun and Hbomb tweet seems to have gone after some accusations?

Lanadelrayathon, anyone know what happened?

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Josef bugman posted:

Lanadelrayathon, anyone know what happened?

Apparently they got creepy with people on Twitter.

E: VVV Oh, and in real life as well. Yikes.

WampaLord fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Dec 1, 2017

theCalamity
Oct 23, 2010

Cry Havoc and let slip the Hogs of War
https://twitter.com/grunthusgrumpus/status/935950168540639232

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

Josef bugman posted:

Hey guys a person I have seen Shaun and Hbomb tweet seems to have gone after some accusations?

Lanadelrayathon, anyone know what happened?

Check the last few pages of the DSA thread, but the summary seems to be that they've been a sexcreep on twitter and irl at DSA events.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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Darn it. I was hoping it wasn't something like that.

I hope the people they hurt get the care and justice they need.

Verisimilidude
Dec 20, 2006

Strike quick and hurry at him,
not caring to hit or miss.
So that you dishonor him before the judges



https://twitter.com/oriwa_/status/936341241024823297

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


little munchkin posted:

it's hosed up how the betting sites are legal and unregulated, that's way more of an issue than some dude saying "retard" on twitter. the profits are so good that even the production companies with a good reputation end up advertising online casinos to their teenage audiences.

thorin is super racist and sexist. he didn't just say "retard". his twitter is awful - the article barely touched on how garbage he is.

Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 16:25 on Dec 1, 2017

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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I know this intellectually, I just don't emotionally.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Josef bugman posted:

I know this intellectually, I just don't emotionally.

Really? Cause whenever these stories come out, I react very emotionally. It's loving disgusting poo poo and it shouldn't be tolerated on any level in our society.

And all this counter arguing I see all around (not that I'm accusing you of doing this, mind you) of "But what if we go too far and outlaw flirting? How can men possibly expect to date without being creepy?" is equally as disgusting.

CrazyLittle
Sep 11, 2001





Clapping Larry
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/936157299499864064

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

Linear Zoetrope posted:

Wait, I'm confused about how this point is wrong as you presented it unless it's dumber in context (likely). I mean, "because black people are criminals" is racist, but white flight was/is absolutely a form of soft segregation used to escape from federal desegregation orders (feds forcing you to integrate your school with black and brown people? Take your ball and go to a new section of town with its own school district!) done because of the perception that POC would increase crime rates/ruin schools/cause miscegenation/whatever.

Like, it's not the only reason, but there are a lot of towns where you can actively link the current racial population distribution in town with whites running away like children from POC mixing into their neighborhoods (either via regulation or naturally).

I think the point is the video fallenturtle linked is someone responding to the Adam Ruins Everything segment about white flight and lingering effects of red lining with: "Well, no duh white people don't want to live in black neighborhoods, because black people are criminals. Also red lining was long ago and doesn't matter anymore. :colbert:"

Obviously white flight is real, the difference is that the "No Bullshit" channel dude's argument is that not only is it real, it's justified.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

WampaLord posted:

Really? Cause whenever these stories come out, I react very emotionally. It's loving disgusting poo poo and it shouldn't be tolerated on any level in our society.

And all this counter arguing I see all around (not that I'm accusing you of doing this, mind you) of "But what if we go too far and outlaw flirting? How can men possibly expect to date without being creepy?" is equally as disgusting.

Yeah I mean I wouldn't call it "good" that there's creeps out there but the reaction of basically unpersoning them from lefty stuff is the absolute correct one. No tolerance for it.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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WampaLord posted:

Really? Cause whenever these stories come out, I react very emotionally. It's loving disgusting poo poo and it shouldn't be tolerated on any level in our society.

And all this counter arguing I see all around (not that I'm accusing you of doing this, mind you) of "But what if we go too far and outlaw flirting? How can men possibly expect to date without being creepy?" is equally as disgusting.

Oh no as in it makes me upset that we suck this much and people I like may also suck.

crime weed
Nov 9, 2009
so, apparently some of The Skeptics/Alt-Righers are turning on Peterson(?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iFi4p4QC44

i'm trying to figure out what peterson do to piss them off. im thinking they just realized one day that he was extremely christian (that took a while), and their more staunchly athiest base began to turn.

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

I hope they schism and tear each other apart. Makes life easier for the rest of us.

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Kjoery posted:

so, apparently some of The Skeptics/Alt-Righers are turning on Peterson(?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iFi4p4QC44

i'm trying to figure out what peterson do to piss them off. im thinking they just realized one day that he was extremely christian (that took a while), and their more staunchly athiest base began to turn.

I bet it's because peterson made that tweet against thinking your race or skin color gives you any worth.

aware of dog
Nov 14, 2016

Kjoery posted:

so, apparently some of The Skeptics/Alt-Righers are turning on Peterson(?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iFi4p4QC44

i'm trying to figure out what peterson do to piss them off. im thinking they just realized one day that he was extremely christian (that took a while), and their more staunchly athiest base began to turn.

It's because he dared to question racial pride and ethno-nationalism.

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

Kjoery posted:

I'm thinking they just realized one day that he was extremely christian (that took a while), and their more staunchly athiest base began to turn.

A lot of the channer contrarians and cheeto cultists have started pushing fundie christian poo poo, I doubt it's that.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
I'm surprised that some of them haven't made a bad-faith conversion to some Salafi variant of Islam just so that they can poo poo on LGBT people and feminism and 'degeneracy' while imagining themselves somehow beyond criticism from the left because of their own bullshit logic.

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crime weed
Nov 9, 2009

Yardbomb posted:

A lot of the channer contrarians and cheeto cultists have started pushing fundie christian poo poo, I doubt it's that.
o yea, i know. ive been seeing a lot of fundies in alt-right discords recently too. was just thinking that there was an undercurrent of ~*principled atheists*~ or something

aware of dog posted:

It's because he dared to question racial pride and ethno-nationalism.

Al-Saqr posted:

I bet it's because peterson made that tweet against thinking your race or skin color gives you any worth.
this makes more sense though, aha. anyone got a link on this?

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