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Attestant
Oct 23, 2012

Don't judge me.
Oh yeah, there was a banner or something




Pull #1: Agrias LMR, dupe Ramza SSB (reforge)
Pull #2: Marche USB x2
Pull #3: Marche BSB, Marche LMR x2, Agrias LMR dupe.

Yeah ok, I'll take a complete-where-it-matters Marche, and that Agrias LMR to go with her full dive. :toot:

I wanted Ramza's stuff more, but I guess I can take a shot at them later. Agrias USB would have been a solid 5/5 Waifu-pull too, but alas.

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Referee
Aug 25, 2004

"Winning is great, sure, but if you are really going to do something in life, the secret is learning how to lose. Nobody goes undefeated all the time. If you can pick up after a crushing defeat, and go on to win again, you are going to be a champion someday."
(Wilma Rudolph)

EscortMission posted:

Hi guys I got a bads



Oh my God. I'd have broken my phone if that happened to me. I'm so sorry.

BGrifter
Mar 16, 2007

Winner of Something Awful PS5 thread's Posting Excellence Award June 2022

Congratulations!

EscortMission posted:

Hi guys I got a bads



Could have been worse.

HPanda
Sep 5, 2008
Those abominations really need to be removed from the pool. Or, at the very least, relegated to coming up only as a "bonus" prize in addition to pity 5* items.

Flavahbeast
Jul 21, 2001


I went 7/33 and got Ramza USB, Ramza SSB, Ramza LMR, Marche BSB and Agrias LMR. I'm tempted to spend my remaining 100 mthril chasing shout or an Agrias drop but it's probably a bad idea

Mithross
Apr 27, 2011

Intelligent and bright, they explored a world that was new and strange to them. They liked it, they thought - a whole world just for them! They were dimly aware that a God had created them, was watching them; they called out to him, thanking him in a chittering language, before running off.

Flavahbeast posted:

I went 7/33 and got Ramza USB, Ramza SSB, Ramza LMR, Marche BSB and Agrias LMR. I'm tempted to spend my remaining 100 mthril chasing shout or an Agrias drop but it's probably a bad idea

Unless you desperately need shout in the next two months, you'll be better off waiting for it's reoccurance on the Orlandeau banner, where you should have fewer dupes.

Flavahbeast
Jul 21, 2001


Oh I just assumed the orlando banner was happening this week and wouldn't have any Ramza stuff, I'll wait on it then

Mithross
Apr 27, 2011

Intelligent and bright, they explored a world that was new and strange to them. They liked it, they thought - a whole world just for them! They were dimly aware that a God had created them, was watching them; they called out to him, thanking him in a chittering language, before running off.

Flavahbeast posted:

Oh I just assumed the orlando banner was happening this week and wouldn't have any Ramza stuff, I'll wait on it then

Nope, Orlandeau's banner is actually banner one of the Alma event in a couple months, and has Ramza's BSB2 and LMR.

Banner 2 of that event has Ramza USB, Meliadoul's stuff, and Agrias' stuff.

Stopgap
May 26, 2003

That's MISTER Freeze to you!
I picked up what I wanted from Tactics (Agrias USB/LMR, Ramza BSB2/LMR)and still had a pull worth of mythril left, so I drunkpulled on the FFX banner and got Tidus USBx2, Tidus BSB2, and Tidus LMR. This is a pretty significant upgrade from my previous Tidus (SB and nothing else). I feel like it maybe justifies legend diving Tidus now? It sounds like people have done some damage with a legend dived Tidus USB and a decently honed Sapphire Shot.

ceaselessfuture
Apr 9, 2005

"I'm thirty," I said. "I'm five years too old to lie to myself and call it honor."

Stopgap posted:

I picked up what I wanted from Tactics (Agrias USB/LMR, Ramza BSB2/LMR)and still had a pull worth of mythril left, so I drunkpulled on the FFX banner and got Tidus USBx2, Tidus BSB2, and Tidus LMR. This is a pretty significant upgrade from my previous Tidus (SB and nothing else). I feel like it maybe justifies legend diving Tidus now? It sounds like people have done some damage with a legend dived Tidus USB and a decently honed Sapphire Shot.

That is absolutely dive-worthy and also I hate you

Shoenin
May 29, 2013

Everynight I wake up Screaming.
(and beating the dragon)
COME BACK 5+ MYTHRIL A DAY


COME BACK

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

I must not pull. Pulling is the luck-killer. Pulling is the little death that brings total rage-whaling. I shall face my temptation, I will permit it to pass over me and through me, and when it has gone I shall turn the inner statistician to see its path. Where the temptation has gone there will be nothing, only my current relics will remain.

Attestant
Oct 23, 2012

Don't judge me.

Bruceski posted:

I must not pull. Pulling is the luck-killer. Pulling is the little death that brings total rage-whaling. I shall face my temptation, I will permit it to pass over me and through me, and when it has gone I shall turn the inner statistician to see its path. Where the temptation has gone there will be nothing, only my current relics will remain.

Just Pull.

Shoenin
May 29, 2013

Everynight I wake up Screaming.
(and beating the dragon)
100 gem pull got me WORLD DESTROYERs BSB armor

not bad.

Neutral Zone Trap
Nov 6, 2011

It's in the garbage. Where it belongs.
Never pull.

Regarding the earlier discussion about Beatrix LD:

Beatrix has a good dive. Her BSB1 is old as hell and mostly only useful for the entry and a free sentinel. However BSB2 is quite decent and USB is super strong since it's of the "chase damage based on ability rank" variety. Get a R5 guardbringer and watch the world burn from holy light.

So diving Beatrix because you have BSB1 probably isn't a sound reasoning but she's a fine dive without any SBs because of how strong Guardbringer is and how good the doublecast LM2s are. So just pull her USB and you go from fine dive to excellent dive.

MikeSevigny
Aug 6, 2002

Habs 2006: Cristobal Persuasion

ceaselessfuture posted:

That is absolutely dive-worthy and also I hate you

Yeah, my extra pull on FFX1 got me a Paine SSB. It's not even water element!

Missed out on the two new ultras on the FFT banner. Going to sit on it a bit before I decide to pull a third time, Ramza BSB2 was the big goal for me and I have it, along with an 8* USB katana. Could be worth it to just wait it out for the next banner and try for Orlandeau gear as well.

Fun fact: if you let the game auto-optimize Ramza's soul breaks, it puts Battle Cry and Shout in and leaves out Tailwind, so you have to rearrange it manually every time. Fun! I wish I could lock the soul breaks for a character (or put SBs in the vault).

Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002



so with the changes to how much soul juice abilities give you is my strategy of putting lifesiphon and wrath in the second slot of everyone who can use them for every fight obsolete or is that still the de rigueur method for dealing with things

Shock Trooper
Oct 24, 2006

TERROR BALTIMORE

MikeSevigny posted:

Fun fact: if you let the game auto-optimize Ramza's soul breaks, it puts Battle Cry and Shout in and leaves out Tailwind, so you have to rearrange it manually every time. Fun! I wish I could lock the soul breaks for a character (or put SBs in the vault).

This. I'm going to forever regret mastering Yoshi-Cola's USB, which the game believes is a higher priority SB than Asylum, Aetherial Pulse, or Stoneskin II. Force of habit in clicking where I think Asylum is in the SB menu has caused a few accidental USB's through muscle memory.

Action George
Apr 13, 2013
3/22 Marche BSB, Meliadoul BSB, Agrias LMR.

None of the big prizes but Agrias LMR is pretty nice. I have her BSB already so once I can fully dive her she'll be my one stop shop for knight damage and holy imperil. I wish Meliadoul's BSB was better since I have a soft spot for her.

Is Marche's BSB any good? The attack/mind buff is unique to me at least, but I'm not sure if that plus the 15% damage boost to knight abilities pushes him past my bevy of other holy damage options. Guess it might be useful against earth weak battles.

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


So with stuff like Agrias LMR does that work with commands like from her BSB?

Charles Bukowski
Aug 26, 2003

Taskmaster 2023 Second Place Winner

Grimey Drawer
Dollar drew dupe genji glove.
5/22. Agrias usb, bsb, lmr. Ramza lmr. Marche ssb.

THE AWESOME GHOST
Oct 21, 2005

I said I wouldn’t pull and my finger instinctively pulled on FFT

Agrias USB - any good? I have her bsb and was planning on using her with orlandeu for imperil

Neutral Zone Trap
Nov 6, 2011

It's in the garbage. Where it belongs.

Cowcaster posted:

so with the changes to how much soul juice abilities give you is my strategy of putting lifesiphon and wrath in the second slot of everyone who can use them for every fight obsolete or is that still the de rigueur method for dealing with things

Other stuff is viable now. Decide based on character and SBs. There's no one truth.

Raines BSB or Rosa USB are still fine wrathers.

Generally speaking it's more useful to do something useful between SBs.

Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002



come to think of it i think i've realized the answer to my own question is the fact that all my 5* hones are garbage so except in a couple of cases i don't have better abilities to bring instead of lifesiphons anyway

iamsosmrt
Jun 14, 2008

Man gently caress this game sometimes. I've had like 9 straight bad pulls going back to the last fest. I'm pretty salty that I got my one dupe twice while I would've been cool with like 90% of the banner otherwise.

bilperkins2
Nov 22, 2004

Fashion for Dogz
:france:

4/33:

Marche BSB, SSB
Meliandoul BSB
Ramza LMR

This Meliandoul BSB looks like an insane amount of -ATK - can't wait for the next ATK-heavy boss and watch him take 3 stacking break(downs).

I really want to rage pull another but I'm saving for now.

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

rabidsquid posted:

So with stuff like Agrias LMR does that work with commands like from her BSB?

Yes. Note the Knight type to the right of each command.



I don't regret LDing her anymore!

ApplesandOranges
Jun 22, 2012

Thankee kindly.

Grizzled Patriarch posted:

Yeah, I want her USB but I have no idea when that shows up again. She's still really good with just her BSB, double-casting Guardbringer is brutal. It's just that Marche is flat-out superior for me now, feels like I wasted a shitload of motes since I doubt I'll ever have room to bring both of them (I also have Cid Raine's BSB and Orlandeau's OSB competing for "dealing a shitload of holy damage" and I think both of those are probably better).

Beatrix's USB actually premieres two IX events from now (so about 4 months).

Marche is better at the moment, but if you ever need someone to just pop a Protectga/Shellga/Curada or something in between weaving Saint Cross/Holy Saber, Beatrix does the job fine.

Bell_
Sep 3, 2006

Tiny Baltimore
A billion light years away
A goon's posting the same thing
But he's already turned to dust
And the shitpost we read
Is a billion light-years old
A ghost just like the rest of us

rabidsquid posted:

So with stuff like Agrias LMR does that work with commands like from her BSB?
Yes, and it triggers separately from Basch's RM(2?) Which also procs double-casting knight abilities.

It's a bit greedy, but I often double down on using LMs with RMs for more reliable double-casting and the odd triple-cast.

Neutral Zone Trap
Nov 6, 2011

It's in the garbage. Where it belongs.
Doublecast works on Agrias' BSB commands for 2,5 potency capped at 20k damage because two hits (1,25 each).

But remember that you can just cast the ability 5* Guardbringer for 4 potency. Capped at 40k due four hits.

Pretty much the optimal way to use Agrias BSB is cast it, cast CMD1 once for sentinel and then spam Guardbringer. Sentinel+Protectga+Wall is pretty much guaranteed to give enough def for 4hit guardbringers.

Guardbringer is getting a buff soon too since the game balancing is done by the 11/11 DeNa intern.

Grizzled Patriarch
Mar 27, 2014

These dentures won't stop me from tearing out jugulars in Thunderdome.



Guardbringer is so good I'm considering honing up a second copy since I've got BSBs for Agrias, Beatrix, and Marche, and Marche's USB.

Is that a dumb idea? Mostly I want it so I can work on whittling my Shadow Dragon time down so I have a reliable method of farming dark orbs, but I dunno if that's worth it, or if there are other skills coming soon that are just as good.

Geocities Homepage King
Nov 26, 2007

I have good news, and I have bad news.
Which do you want to hear first...?
The Reddit thread about the banner refers to Marche's USB as a "game changer." Is it really that good?

Kawalimus
Jan 17, 2008

Better Living Through Birding And Pessimism
First pull-- 1/11 Marche bsb. gently caress that.

Second-- 2/11, Ramza USB and Marche USB. Hell yes!! Marche USB is supposed to be good and always wanted another Ramza sb to complement Shout.

Neutral Zone Trap
Nov 6, 2011

It's in the garbage. Where it belongs.

Grizzled Patriarch posted:

Guardbringer is so good I'm considering honing up a second copy since I've got BSBs for Agrias, Beatrix, and Marche, and Marche's USB.

Is that a dumb idea? Mostly I want it so I can work on whittling my Shadow Dragon time down so I have a reliable method of farming dark orbs, but I dunno if that's worth it, or if there are other skills coming soon that are just as good.

It's a good idea if you have multiple users who can wield it. This is true for all useful 5* abilities.

We're getting Assault Saber / Holy Saber / whatever in two months with the next FFT event which is the other good Holy damage ability but that's all of physical holy for now.

You can safely shatter Saint Cross for orbs at this point. It's not good now and it won't be good for at least the next six months that we have future vision for.

E: To clarify it's still way better than Agrias/Beatrix BSB1 commands but two hits is super limiting

Neutral Zone Trap fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Dec 1, 2017

Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002



saint cross is my only honed 5* knight skill so i shant be shattering it

ApplesandOranges
Jun 22, 2012

Thankee kindly.
It's surprising that Saint Cross doesn't get a foreseeable buff to 4 hits, because even Guardbringer gets buffed to a maximum of 5 hits. I mean Heavy Regen is kinda cool if the enemy Saps a lot but... that's it.

It is notable that Guardbringer is weaker than Saint Cross if you can't get the 4-hit threshold, outside of capping issues.

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

Geocities Homepage King posted:

The Reddit thread about the banner refers to Marche's USB as a "game changer." Is it really that good?

It gives your entire front row one turn of 3x cast speed every time he uses a knight ability. That's insane.

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

A cool thing about Ramza's LMR is that if you bring him to a boss that likes to talk a lot at the start (like literally every FFT boss if you bring Ramza), then you actually get to input his first command while the boss is talking and the ATB is paused for zero time loss.

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

Fister Roboto posted:

It gives your entire front row one turn of 3x cast speed every time he uses a knight ability. That's insane.

Yeah welcome chainsaw physical teams. It's pretty hilarious how fast things melt when your whole front row has Thunder God Mode even for just 15 seconds.

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THE AWESOME GHOST
Oct 21, 2005

What about Aegis strike? Is a 5* seriously better

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