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In It For The Tank posted:It isn't as uncharacteristic as you might think. I feel like the next panel of this is "And then the heroes baited Thanos with Hostess Fruit Pies!"
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WampaLord posted:Episode 10 was confusing as gently caress by opening after the attack had already happened on Karen and the Senator. I had to go back to the last episode multiple times to make sure I didn't miss anything, I was like "Did they get attacked last time and I somehow missed it happening?" I did that too, it wasn't at all clear that they were doing some dumb quasi-Rashomon thing until a couple minutes after the credits
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Man I'm glad I'm watching the Punisher despite it being rated worse than the Defenders, the biggest budget fan fiction ever made. Thanks guys, this show is the best. Critics are retarded. Side note, does Frank have wolverine healing powers?
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That's Marine training for ya. They're all at least as tough as Peggy Hill.
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Just finished watching the series tonight, and although I think it has some pacing issues (what Netflix Marvel show doesn't, though?), I was very satisfied with the finished product. I actually think it's one of the stronger outings in the bunch, carried mostly on Bernthal's performance, and would be very happy with a follow-up. A couple of friends I know were critical of the series, as they felt it was "out of character" for the source material, but I think it was extra ballsy to go the route that they did. It would have been easy to put out a power fantasy Punisher series with nothing but wall-to-wall violence. A huge amount of the fanbase would have been happy with that. It took guts to offer a critical examination of the nature of PTSD, the futility of war, and the toxic nature of jingoism. It was a bold move, and I think it payed off in a big way. And plus, hell, not for nothing we still got Castle using a human head as an IED, which is like, the most Garth Ennis poo poo I can imagine.
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Fart City posted:And plus, hell, not for nothing we still got Castle using a human head as an IED, which is like, the most Garth Ennis poo poo I can imagine. That was the perfect combination of, "this dude is pro," and, "this dude is suuuper not okay."
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jng2058 posted:I mean I guess "Untitled Avengers Film" could be "Infinity War Part 2", but it doesn't seem all that likely. I think we're one and done with the Infinity War. You might be confusing this with Justice League, which was originally announced as "Justice League Part One." That May 2019 movie is absolutely Infinity War 2, which is shooting right now (the Russos say they have a title but can't announce it because it would spoil Infinity War, which ... okay, whatever).
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MOVIE MAJICK posted:Man I'm glad I'm watching the Punisher despite it being rated worse than the Defenders, the biggest budget fan fiction ever made. Thanks guys, this show is the best. he has the power to move his body so that he always gets shot in cool action movie guy places. no organs. in and out.
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WampaLord posted:I feel like the next panel of this is "And then the heroes baited Thanos with Hostess Fruit Pies!" Avengers v. Justice League: Thanos and Darkseid sit on couches and talk about their love lives
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Raserys posted:Avengers v. Justice League: Thanos and Darkseid sit on couches and talk about their love lives https://twitter.com/Draksou/status/519159966834651136
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Well, I finished it, and I have to agree that the ending was basically perfect. It's funny, I was trying to avoid spoilers and keep up with the thread at the same time, but I ended up reading that Muddani and Liberman get shot. And sure, it was true, but they both lived! I was super glad that Lieberman ended up living, I was terrified he actually died at the exchange and that would have been super loving awful for his family.
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WampaLord posted:Well, I finished it, and I have to agree that the ending was basically perfect. would have been great if he died and his family got "radicalized", joined ISIS and became Punisher S2 villains
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What ends up happening to the bad guys is pretty gruesome. I had to look away for moments of both the last episodes. the mirror face drag especially. I looked up Billy Russo online and he is supposed to be "Jigsaw" but that name never came up in the series.
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MOVIE MAJICK posted:What ends up happening to the bad guys is pretty gruesome. I had to look away for moments of both the last episodes. the mirror face drag especially. I looked up Billy Russo online and he is supposed to be "Jigsaw" but that name never came up in the series. That's cuz jigsaw is what he calls himself after Frank fucks his face up
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MOVIE MAJICK posted:What ends up happening to the bad guys is pretty gruesome. I had to look away for moments of both the last episodes. the mirror face drag especially. I looked up Billy Russo online and he is supposed to be "Jigsaw" but that name never came up in the series. Nah, the name was basically thrown in there for the fans up until that last scene there when they surprised everybody. It was a pretty well grounded series and I don't think anybody saw a legit comic book villain origin coming.
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Finally went back to finish off Luke Cage after binge watching all of Punisher. Man, they should have made Luke Cage 8 episodes long. I could barely make it through all of that. Ugh. I am starting to think the perfect amount of episodes for a Netflix season is 8. As much as I really REALLY enjoyed Punisher, it could also have had a lot cut out. Now to watch Iron Fist and then Defenders.
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He's a cool character, but the bad guy plot stuff was just so boring. They had a good build up to about episode 7 or 8 and then it's like all the other shows "Wait, we have to drag this out for 5 more episodes? Really? Ok.." I felt the same way with Stranger Things 2. It's like they're being forced to make these shows 13 episodes long with 8 episodes of story.
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bring back old gbs posted:Nah, the name was basically thrown in there for the fans up until that last scene there when they surprised everybody. It was a pretty well grounded series and I don't think anybody saw a legit comic book villain origin coming. Unless you googled "Punisher Cast" to see who was play whom. Google ruins the surprise for you, but ultimate didn't ruin anything in the show.
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One detail I really liked that really helped it feel more real/grounded was the fact that two major characters had the same first name: both Jigsaw and Agent Orange were named "William" and both of them were referred to as "Bill" by their friends. And it wasn't commented on or anything, at no point was Frank like "You two are the same, Russo! You even have the same first name!" I know its true to their comic book counterparts but a lot of adaptations would have changed one name or the other because "two characters with the same name is confusing to the audience." It helped it feel more "real," in real life you interact with people that have the same first name as each other all the time but you very rarely see it happening in movies or TV, or at least you rarely see it happening without it being commented on or being used as some sort of thematic choice.
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Philthy posted:. Don't do that to yourself man
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I seriosuly recomend just skipping to the Run the Jewels fight on youtube and then asking yourself "would I sit through 8 more hours to watch this scene?" If No, Turn it off If Yes, Surprise, that's definitely the best scene in the Defenders and then the remaining 2/3s has like uh, 1 other good fight in a Chinese food restaurant in like episode 6 I'm only mentioning the fights because I can't think of any scenes that really stood out, but I will genuinely admit that JJ + DD scenes are pretty well written and LC + IF is charming in a very cartoony way, so if the Defenders S2 is just pushing the 2 + 2 dynamic a la' Venture Bros it will probably be a better show.
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Bust Rodd posted:I seriosuly recomend just skipping to the Run the Jewels fight on youtube and then asking yourself "would I sit through 8 more hours to watch this scene?" The defenders has an RTJ fight scene too? I remember being pretty surprised to hear them in Iron Fist.
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Bust Rodd posted:I'm only mentioning the fights because I can't think of any scenes that really stood out The dinner scene itself before the fight is pretty great, I really wish the show was more of that. Just the 4 of them talking and bouncing off each other.
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Philthy posted:He's a cool character, but the bad guy plot stuff was just so boring. They had a good build up to about episode 7 or 8 and then it's like all the other shows "Wait, we have to drag this out for 5 more episodes? Really? Ok.." That episode with Kali and her gang in ST2 felt like they had to fill an hour and had no idea what to fill it with
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MOVIE MAJICK posted:Which fight scene is the run the jewels fight scene? The one where the four of them meet for the first time.
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Arist posted:The one where the four of them meet for the first time. Oh yeah that was cool. The rest of Defenders didn't live up to the quality of the individual series.
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Soothing Vapors posted:That episode with Kali and her gang in ST2 felt like they had to fill an hour and had no idea what to fill it with I think it was an important episode to allow the show to grow. If the 3rd season is the same as the first two, then it’s going to be pretty stale. It also helped further establish who 11 is as a developing person and not just a spoiled little eggo eating piece of poo poo.
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Soothing Vapors posted:That episode with Kali and her gang in ST2 felt like they had to fill an hour and had no idea what to fill it with Yeah not to derail but I think it will tie into S3, so maybe in the end that episode will look better. Also Stranger Things is 17 episodes in 2 seasons (8.5 per season). Marvel Netflix has been 13 episodes per season other than Defenders. Stranger Things has felt very tight by comparison. All the Marvel shows have felt like they’ve tried to tack in an extra storyline to the detriment of the season. The only one that did it well was Daredevil S2, but that is because they used the Punisher and Elektra, two characters who are more famous than any of the other Defenders. And even then I think it would have worked better as two separate seasons.
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MOVIE MAJICK posted:Man I'm glad I'm watching the Punisher despite it being rated worse than the Defenders, the biggest budget fan fiction ever made. Thanks guys, this show is the best. yeah, i don't get why the critics are being so retarded about this. this is the best. what were they even expecting that it didn't deliver?
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Fututor Magnus posted:yeah, i don't get why the critics are being so retarded about this. this is the best. what were they even expecting that it didn't deliver? The critics hate it because they had preconditioned themselves into thinking that the Punisher glorifies violence and gun violence in particular, therefore it is bad. Also the character allegedly has a large fanbase of trigger-happy militaristic cops, (anyone is free to correct me because I'm not from the US and this is very US-specific) Whether it's true doesn't matter and never did
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Punisher as it has existed for quite a while as a right wing power fantasy that typically targets law breaking minorities. Even when infecting nuance there was still the fundamentals there which are why the Punisher’s logo finds its way on to people who have have guns and the power to use them. Thats not to excuse facile political readings from critics, the show definitely doesn’t make Frank aspirational in what he is and what his crusade is doing to him and the people around him, but the show does have that cultural baggage. A ringing endorsement for the show could also be a ringing endorsement for the kind of people who think Frank has the right idea, people think it’s possible to apolitically separate art from its real life implications but it’s just not. A least it doesn’t go all American Sniper (note the Punisher logo there) in dehumanising the Afghani people as savages, but they become more like non characters who are either cannon fodder or targets in flashbacks aside from the policeman Frank executed.
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I just got done binging this, Frank still doesn't use the minigun from Daredevil? 1/10
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McSpanky posted:I just got done binging this, Frank still doesn't use the minigun from Daredevil? 1/10 This was actually my biggest disappointment, no joke. He had an entire arsenal available to him in that shed after he killed the dude, and he didn't use any of it. Instead it was like, "hey micro we need some guns, go find some" and I was like, 
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enraged_camel posted:This was actually my biggest disappointment, no joke. Yeah actually, what happened to those guns he was using in the intro?
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RareAcumen posted:Yeah actually, what happened to those guns he was using in the intro? He thought he was done so he trashed all the gear.
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