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FactsAreUseless posted:It would be better than the movie. C-22 is pretty episodic, it would translate to TV fantastically. Not wanting to kill Nazis is a harder sell than not wanting to kill North Korean though.
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FactsAreUseless posted:It's insane to me, given MASH's popularity, that none of the streaming services have done a Catch-22 series. At the risk of me missing a joke, they are making one like right now: http://www.radiotimes.com/news/tv/2017-11-17/george-clooney-returning-to-tv-in-catch-22-adaptation/
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Wheat Loaf posted:but unfortunately, Lloyd Webber was chums with Steve Harley of Cockney Rebel at the time and cast him as the Phantom, which doesn't quite work, as you'll hear if you watch the video. Michael Crawford he is not. Ironically he sounds more like Frank Spencer (Michael Crawford's break out role) in this than Michael Crawford does
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Adding my voice to the "watch 'Phantom of the Paradise'" crew. Movie is awesome. One of these days I'm gonna make a halloween costume.
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FactsAreUseless posted:It would be better than the movie. C-22 is pretty episodic, it would translate to TV fantastically. There's basically no way to do justice to the novel's overlapping out of order flashback format in TV, and without it I think you'd be missing out on a decent amount of the novel's impact. You can get away with more in a streaming format and Netflix has been gently pushing the envelope with experimental episodes, but nothing like what Catch-22 would require. Probably the closest you could do would be to have a few flashback/flashforward jumps in order to preserve the biggest reveals, but the effect wouldn't really be the same and you'd still be confusing 70% of the audience. the holy poopacy has a new favorite as of 20:53 on Dec 1, 2017 |
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Straight White Shark posted:There's basically no way to do justice to the novel's overlapping out of order flashback format in TV, and without it I think you'd be missing out on a decent amount of the novel's impact. You can get away with more in a streaming format and Netflix has been gently pushing the envelope with experimental episodes, but nothing like what Catch-22 would require. Make a hundred micro-episodes of about 10 minutes each in a playlist, then make the only way to watch said playlist be on Shuffle.
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BioEnchanted posted:Make a hundred micro-episodes of about 10 minutes each in a playlist, then make the only way to watch said playlist be on Shuffle. also the shuffle setting does not preclude repeats
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BiggerBoat posted:Adding my voice to the "watch 'Phantom of the Paradise'" crew. Movie is awesome. One of these days I'm gonna make a halloween costume. Comic version took some weird liberties: 
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FactsAreUseless posted:It's insane to me, given MASH's popularity, that none of the streaming services have done a Catch-22 series. I have some bad news for you, FAU.  edit: crap I should have refreshed. How long did I have this tab open? edit 2: to pivot off Altman's son adding lyrics to "Suicide is Painless" and getting huge royalties, Gene Roddenberry also added his own lyics to Alexander Courage's Star Trek theme, to be a dick and claim credit as co-writer, and make money off it. Mister Mind has a new favorite as of 21:12 on Dec 1, 2017 |
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Annabel Pee posted:At the risk of me missing a joke, they are making one like right now:
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Straight White Shark posted:There's basically no way to do justice to the novel's overlapping out of order flashback format in TV, and without it I think you'd be missing out on a decent amount of the novel's impact. You can get away with more in a streaming format and Netflix has been gently pushing the envelope with experimental episodes, but nothing like what Catch-22 would require. I haven't read the book but this sounds a lot like what Netflix already did for Arrested Development Season 4.
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Solice Kirsk posted:Comic version took some weird liberties: Miura is legit a huge fan of that movie and has straight-up said he based Griffith's armor on the Phantom's getup e: also, yeah, TV actually makes that a lot easier since you have between-episode breaks as natural stopping and starting points. You can just do one episode for one story, then another for another, etc. sort of like what the book does with its chapters.
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Detective No. 27 posted:Not a TV episode that didn't age well, but this week's South Park was about Kyle realizing the comedy of his heroes Terrance and Philip didn't age well. That's interesting, because "Not Without My Anus" is more or less the only episode I still think is funny
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I've been watching MASH reruns in the evening lately and I think it holds up pretty well. The treatment of women not as much, but that gets toned down more after S4 or so.
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Mister Mind posted:edit 2: to pivot off Altman's son adding lyrics to "Suicide is Painless" and getting huge royalties, Gene Roddenberry also added his own lyics to Alexander Courage's Star Trek theme, to be a dick and claim credit as co-writer, and make money off it. This is actually an old Hollywood gimmick to give more money to show creators. The theme to Bonanza or I Dream of Jeanie also had lyrics written for them but not used in the intros.
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Achernar posted:This is actually an old Hollywood gimmick to give more money to show creators. The theme to Bonanza or I Dream of Jeanie also had lyrics written for them but not used in the intros. Same with Star Trek. Gene Roddenberry posted:Beyond Gene Roddenberry was a bit of a tool. (And a perv, which is nicely alluded to in these very lyrics)
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The lyrics are ok but sung to the theme song it just doesn’t conjure up images of Kirk because Kirks sole purpose was to do it with as many sexy space broads as possible
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Achernar posted:This is actually an old Hollywood gimmick to give more money to show creators. The theme to Bonanza or I Dream of Jeanie also had lyrics written for them but not used in the intros. I'm pretty sure the lyrics for Suicide is Painless were used in the film. When the story was adapted for TV, they got cut. It's kind of a different situation since when that song was written the MASH tv show was a ways off
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Ugly In The Morning posted:I'm pretty sure the lyrics for Suicide is Painless were used in the film. When the story was adapted for TV, they got cut. It's kind of a different situation since when that song was written the MASH tv show was a ways off It had to be a royalties issue not using the lyrics. The show hasn't been off the air since day one and that would have cost a small fortune.
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Mister Kingdom posted:It had to be a royalties issue not using the lyrics. The show hasn't been off the air since day one and that would have cost a small fortune. Would a prime time TV show in the 70s have been allowed to have a theme song extolling the benefits of suicide? Hell, would it now?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE3OBiFflHI I do like the Andy Griffith Show theme with lyrics (sung by Andy Griffith!)
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oldpainless posted:The lyrics are ok but sung to the theme song it just doesn’t conjure up images of Kirk because Kirks sole purpose was to do it with as many sexy space broads as possible this is a good example of how star trek has aged weirdly in the public consciousness the brash womanizer kirk is a myth!
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Jazerus posted:this is a good example of how star trek has aged weirdly in the public consciousness Yeah, it's crazy, you go back and actually watch TOS, and Spock gets more ladies throwing themselves at him than Kirk ever does. And on top of that, the stereotypical SHATNER...pausing...DRAMATically style is not at all present. Comedians started doing that in the 80s and 90s and Shatner himself picked up on it because he has no problem with making himself a joke and a character. Don't get me wrong, there are certainly plenty of Star Trek scenes where he's hamming it up and overacting to the extreme, but that weird pause and emphasize thing that's the stereotype for impressions of him is nowhere to be seen.
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Choco1980 posted:And on top of that, the stereotypical SHATNER...pausing...DRAMATically style is not at all present. Bullshit. Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKvuZFukjuk
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Choco1980 posted:
Well this didn't help, 1978: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXSWx5Q2XCo
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the man is a talented artist, what of it?
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Choco1980 posted:Yeah, it's crazy, you go back and actually watch TOS, and Spock gets more ladies throwing themselves at him than Kirk ever does. . 
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There's a Twitter account that documents the questionable 2000's fashion choices of Charmed: https://twitter.com/charmedoutfits?s=09
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grittyreboot posted:There's a Twitter account that documents the questionable 2000's fashion choices of Charmed: https://twitter.com/charmedoutfits?s=09 One TV at work is always showing Charmed at like 3 or 4 in the morning, muted thankfully. It's utterly fascinating how dated that show is.
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Shatner/Kirk get closer to their stereotype around season 3, but yeah, it's a bit overstated.
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Achernar posted:This is actually an old Hollywood gimmick to give more money to show creators. The theme to Bonanza or I Dream of Jeanie also had lyrics written for them but not used in the intros. And it is GLORIOUS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bczfyoafHBk
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married but discreet posted:Did anyone ever actually watch Charmed with the sound on? I'm pretty sure the network it was on (the WB? It was one of the channels that was merged to create the CW afaik) got to the point where it based its advertising for the show around the clothes the characters would be wearing that week.
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grittyreboot posted:There's a Twitter account that documents the questionable 2000's fashion choices of Charmed: https://twitter.com/charmedoutfits?s=09 That twitter account made me look up Kaley Cuoco's imdb page and she has never been in anything good. Every thing she has starred in has been trash.
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married but discreet posted:Did anyone ever actually watch Charmed  grittyreboot posted:There's a Twitter account that documents the questionable 2000's fashion choices of Charmed: https://twitter.com/charmedoutfits?s=09 This, on the other hand, is amazing. Zamboni Rodeo has a new favorite as of 18:57 on Dec 4, 2017 |
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food court bailiff posted:I haven't read the book but this sounds a lot like what Netflix already did for Arrested Development Season 4. The key difference is that Catch-22 is mostly a single POV. When it repeats a scene you're not getting a new perspective on events, except in that your own perspective has subtly changed as you've learned more about the timeline. Also, from what I recall each episode of Arrested Development on Netflix stuck to its own internal chronology and loosely spanned the same stretch of time, there wasn't switching back and forth. I mean, yeah, ultimately I'm probably overstating the difficulties of translating the book to TV, and I'm sure someone clever enough could come up with a decent approximation. It's definitely not a trivial task, though. the holy poopacy has a new favorite as of 01:03 on Dec 5, 2017 |
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Straight White Shark posted:The key difference is that Catch-22 is mostly a single POV. When it repeats a scene you're not getting a new perspective on events, except in that your own perspective has subtly changed as you've learned more about the timeline. Also, from what I recall each episode of Arrested Development on Netflix stuck to its own internal chronology and loosely spanned the same stretch of time, there wasn't switching back and forth. Unless I'm mistaken I thought Catch-22 was a bunch of different POVs and they just intertwine with each other at different times. It's gonna be interesting to see how they deal with the heavier stuff though. I'm looking forward to it. Maybe if it goes well they'll make a Closing Time show!
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Or maybe they'll just make a version of Catch-22 that's completely linear, uses 3 cameras, and has a laugh track. [Scene - tailgunner jumps from plane, pulls parachute rip cord, falls to death as a bunch of eggs go streaming out.] "Oh, Milo!" [Laughtrack]
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