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Veni Vidi Ameche! posted:No, I mean what's going on, there? That appears to be an office or school break room. Everyone else is dressed normally. There's a dude in a bad suitish thing standing in one corner. In the middle of the room is a guy in a gi ki-yiing and punching wood, and no one seems to think it's worthy of comment. There's no context. It's bizarre. I'm gonna guess cut rate motivational speaker.
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Senior Woodchuck posted:Oh, man, the thought of all those neckbeards jumping off buildings and hitting the pavement like industrial-sized garbage bags full of spaghetti sauce.  godDAMN
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littlebluellama posted:I never got why apocalypse preppers think anyone would want gold or gems after the apocalypse. It wouldn't go back to like medieval times, we don't have those skills anymore. Doesn't a gold and gem based economy require a rich ruling class that gives a gently caress about pretty status symbols? and the ability to make something out of the gold/cut the gems? To properly survive an apocalypse you need to have stills skills. And to have hidden several thousand cartons of marbs up in the hills. Do not do guns or gold that's a chump's game.
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Senior Woodchuck posted:Oh, man, the thought of all those neckbeards jumping off buildings and hitting the pavement like industrial-sized garbage bags full of spaghetti sauce. C'mon, that's "Hefty bags full of vegetable soup" 
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Basebf555 posted:I literally have no clue what it means to mine a bitcoin. I'm picturing a computer game where you play a mining minigame where you earn a bitcoin after like a week's worth of grinding. This was made a few years ago but it's still an incredibly realistic simulator of the bitcoin experience. http://bitsim.beepboopbitcoin.com/ (Stick with it until the end, when you see the words "you've won". It's worth it.)
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littlebluellama posted:I never got why apocalypse preppers think anyone would want gold or gems after the apocalypse. It wouldn't go back to like medieval times, we don't have those skills anymore. Doesn't a gold and gem based economy require a rich ruling class that gives a gently caress about pretty status symbols? and the ability to make something out of the gold/cut the gems? Gold actually has value in today's society, where lots of electronics use it for certain components on a circuit board etc. So it's still equally stupid, because if civilisation collapses, you won't need it for that because lol if you think anyone's just going to be cooking up circuit boards for things. I remember reading a book when I was a teenager where gold wasn't worth much because the (medieval-ish) world was in a constant state of war. It meant that the most expensive metal was steel, because you can make weapons and armour out of it.
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Proteus Jones posted:I'm gonna guess cut rate motivational speaker. The more I think about it, the more I like this answer. That totally is a school, and he's showing the faculty what kind of magic he has in store for the kids. FogHelmut posted:Amazing the thief and the homeowner have the same car. Well, the thief's lovely friend, anyway.
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Data Graham posted:C'mon, that's "Hefty bags full of vegetable soup"
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Known Lecher posted:From the GBS China thread, a Chinese airsoft sharpshooter. https://i.imgur.com/P2WJPmg.mp4
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Senior Woodchuck posted:Oh, man, the thought of all those neckbeards jumping off buildings and hitting the pavement like industrial-sized garbage bags full of spaghetti sauce. Jumping out of basement windows is a bit tricky.
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Dillbag posted:There are plenty of stories of people trading their jewelry for bread during WWII, but I'm sure gold and silver will become edible by the time Trump drops the nukes The whole loving point of a currency is that it's not intrinsically valuable. "But it's not good for anything" isn't a point against its use as a currency, it's a point in favor of it. The whole *point* of a currency is that barter is a *pain in the rear end* and is inherently limited in what sort of transactions can be made, so you need some kind of intermediate object, a medium of exchange, that represents value but which is itself divorced from value. This is why, surprise, every human culture past the stone age gets tired of bartering and invents currency. A currency needs to be practical to store and transport, easy to subdivide, value-dense, hard to counterfeit, and scarce. Gold can easily be subdivided into weights, doesn't corrode or decay even if you bury in the ground or dump it into the ocean, is pretty easy to tell apart from things that aren't actually gold, and exists in finite supply. The fact that gold and other precious metals meet all of the requirements is exactly why they've been useful as a currency for thousands of years, including in many (most) cases in economies that would be indistinguishable from conditions that would be considered post-apocalyptic today. The fact that it's not good for much of anything by itself is one of the reasons people kept using it as currency for thousands and thousands of years before central banks and fiat money showed up, so it's hardly a stretch to expect that if something really bad happened and central banks and fiat money went away that gold would be useful as a medium of exchange. Phanatic has a new favorite as of 04:57 on Dec 6, 2017 |
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Phanatic posted:The whole loving point of a currency is that it's not intrinsically valuable. "But it's not good for anything" isn't a point against its use as a currency, it's a point in favor of it. * looks around at all the worthless crap around me * I'm rich!
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Known Lecher posted:From the GBS China thread, a Chinese airsoft sharpshooter. Eight-year-old white girl. Middle of the ghetto. Bunch of monsters. This time of night. With quantum physics books. She’s about to start some poo poo. She’s about eight years old, those books are way too advanced for her. If you ask me, I’d say she’s up to something.
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Memento posted:I remember reading a book when I was a teenager where gold wasn't worth much because the (medieval-ish) world was in a constant state of war. It meant that the most expensive metal was steel, because you can make weapons and armour out of it. Check out CryptoCats, beanie babies on the blockchain, which have no intrinsic rarity scheme but people pay more for the ones with a gold background image anyway. That's how powerful the belief in gold is. Or how stupid people are.
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Zero One posted:Eight-year-old white girl. Middle of the ghetto. Bunch of monsters. This time of night. With quantum physics books. She’s about to start some poo poo. She’s about eight years old, those books are way too advanced for her. If you ask me, I’d say she’s up to something. you magnificent sonofabitch.
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Memento posted:I know a couple that have a bunch of little gold bars in a safe, maybe 15-20 bars at 10 ounces a piece. They also have a set of tools in there so they can cut and/or shave individual bits of it off to "break" the bars for smaller transactions when the world inevitably crumbles. I'm not saying it's a good idea, I'm saying that when put in contrast to bitcoins it almost approaches being a good idea. Also while gold makes a really lovely doomsday hedge it's in the form of jewelry vastly preferable to a bank if you live in a war-prone country by virtue of dollars having diminishing returns when being carried around in any sort of scale. Not to barter with mind you, to cash out once you've made it to a non-war country. MiddleOne has a new favorite as of 07:41 on Dec 6, 2017 |
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Zero One posted:Eight-year-old white girl. Middle of the ghetto. Bunch of monsters. This time of night. With quantum physics books. She’s about to start some poo poo. She’s about eight years old, those books are way too advanced for her. If you ask me, I’d say she’s up to something. 'Kay.
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Phanatic posted:The whole loving point of a currency is that it's not intrinsically valuable. "But it's not good for anything" isn't a point against its use as a currency, it's a point in favor of it. The whole *point* of a currency is that barter is a *pain in the rear end* and is inherently limited in what sort of transactions can be made, so you need some kind of intermediate object, a medium of exchange, that represents value but which is itself divorced from value. This is why, surprise, every human culture past the stone age gets tired of bartering and invents currency. A currency needs to be practical to store and transport, easy to subdivide, value-dense, hard to counterfeit, and scarce. Gold can easily be subdivided into weights, doesn't corrode or decay even if you bury in the ground or dump it into the ocean, is pretty easy to tell apart from things that aren't actually gold, and exists in finite supply. The fact that gold and other precious metals meet all of the requirements is exactly why they've been useful as a currency for thousands of years, including in many (most) cases in economies that would be indistinguishable from conditions that would be considered post-apocalyptic today. The fact that it's not good for much of anything by itself is one of the reasons people kept using it as currency for thousands and thousands of years before central banks and fiat money showed up, so it's hardly a stretch to expect that if something really bad happened and central banks and fiat money went away that gold would be useful as a medium of exchange. I can't quite decide whether this guy is a persistent wind-up or somebody who actually HAS invested their life savings in bitcoins and is super-defensive about their decision.
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Pistol_Pete posted:I can't quite decide whether this guy is a persistent wind-up or somebody who actually HAS invested their life savings in bitcoins and is super-defensive about their decision. I mean the thing about why gold is a currency is basically word for word what I learned about what makes a good currency from highschool economics (lol) class. I take it they're dissing ideas like "steel being used as currency because it's more useful" instead of defending bitcoins. I mean gently caress a currency being something that is rare and hard to use for other purposes kind of makes sense? Didnt some culture use giant unmovable rocks as a currency? What use do those have lmao. Xun has a new favorite as of 08:09 on Dec 6, 2017 |
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Xun posted:I mean the thing about why gold is a currency is basically word for word what I learned about what makes a good currency from highschool economics (lol) class. I take it they're dissing ideas like "steel being used as currency because it's more useful". I mean gently caress didn't some culture use giant unmovable rocks as a currency? What use do those have lmao He who has the biggest rock wins.
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Phanatic posted:The whole loving point of a currency is that it's not intrinsically valuable. "But it's not good for anything" isn't a point against its use as a currency, it's a point in favor of it. The whole *point* of a currency is that barter is a *pain in the rear end* and is inherently limited in what sort of transactions can be made, so you need some kind of intermediate object, a medium of exchange, that represents value but which is itself divorced from value. This is why, surprise, every human culture past the stone age gets tired of bartering and invents currency. A currency needs to be practical to store and transport, easy to subdivide, value-dense, hard to counterfeit, and scarce. Gold can easily be subdivided into weights, doesn't corrode or decay even if you bury in the ground or dump it into the ocean, is pretty easy to tell apart from things that aren't actually gold, and exists in finite supply. The fact that gold and other precious metals meet all of the requirements is exactly why they've been useful as a currency for thousands of years, including in many (most) cases in economies that would be indistinguishable from conditions that would be considered post-apocalyptic today. The fact that it's not good for much of anything by itself is one of the reasons people kept using it as currency for thousands and thousands of years before central banks and fiat money showed up, so it's hardly a stretch to expect that if something really bad happened and central banks and fiat money went away that gold would be useful as a medium of exchange. But isn't the currency backed up by some kind of government or at least a lord or something? If one family out of the 100 families in my general area has a gold stockpile, who else would accept it without an way to "cash it in." I read that in some prisons, they use little tins of fish as money, because they're worth a dollar each and prisoners can't keep money on them. But everyone can get the little fish tins when their families put money int heir prison store account. If only a few people have the arbitrary thing, how do they get everyone else to accept it as currency? also you can eat the little tins of fish in the apocalypse
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Bitcoin derail sucks rear end, go to the GBS or yospos bitcoin threads with that garbage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsMXDxXlvmY
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littlebluellama posted:But isn't the currency backed up by some kind of government or at least a lord or something? If one family out of the 100 families in my general area has a gold stockpile, who else would accept it without an way to "cash it in." It's a misunderstanding of how gold became the de facto currency of it's day and just jumping straight into the middle of feudal history (which they think a post-apocalyptic society would be) where Lords had lots of gold, they have lots of gold ergo they will be a Lord in the new society. They miss the part where people actually have to want your gold. No one wants gold in that sort of society, the only valuable things are land, skills and labour. Now we would come up with a way to mediate the exchange of those things and it might be gold, but probably not if some rear end in a top hat is sitting on a whole ton of it.
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Just came across this in my infotainment feed: CryptoKitties craze slows down transactions on Ethereum. I wouldn't have read or understood it if it weren't for our current derail. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-42237162
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Memento posted:I know a couple that have a bunch of little gold bars in a safe, maybe 15-20 bars at 10 ounces a piece. They also have a set of tools in there so they can cut and/or shave individual bits of it off to "break" the bars for smaller transactions when the world inevitably crumbles. mint some paper thin coinage like the byzantine emperors and you could probably actually get by if you only ever bought stuff from other survivalist weirdos
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Sarcopenia posted:'Kay. No, that was J
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ilmucche posted:No, that was J  A tasteful retort.
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Memento posted:I know a couple that have a bunch of little gold bars in a safe, maybe 15-20 bars at 10 ounces a piece. They also have a set of tools in there so they can cut and/or shave individual bits of it off to "break" the bars for smaller transactions when the world inevitably crumbles. Goon Danton posted:gently caress doomsday, that just sounds nice. This reminds me of an episode of Doomsday Preppers (of the maybe six episodes I've seen?). There was a family who lived in a pretty rural area (I think they always had) who, instead of stocking up on shitloads of guns or whatever, just grew loads of fruit and vegetables in a large garden/small farm, and kept chickens and some other livestock. One of them basically said "well, if World War 3 never comes, who cares, we have a very healthy diet and spend basically nothing on food, so win/win!".
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Meatgrinder posted:Just came across this in my infotainment feed: CryptoKitties craze slows down transactions on Ethereum. I wouldn't have read or understood it if it weren't for our current derail. quote:What is a CryptoKitty? ... uh huh
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Powered Descent posted:This was made a few years ago but it's still an incredibly realistic simulator of the bitcoin experience.  The buttcoin derail is as awful as usual, but this gem almost makes it worth it.
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Coucho Marx posted:This reminds me of an episode of Doomsday Preppers (of the maybe six episodes I've seen?). There was a family who lived in a pretty rural area (I think they always had) who, instead of stocking up on shitloads of guns or whatever, just grew loads of fruit and vegetables in a large garden/small farm, and kept chickens and some other livestock. One of them basically said "well, if World War 3 never comes, who cares, we have a very healthy diet and spend basically nothing on food, so win/win!". It's nice to see one of those to contrast the usual "I spent all our savings, took out a second mortgage, and drained my kids' college funds for this steel shipping container that I have now buried in the ground and filled with guns and gold. They'll thanks me when RAHOWA starts." Or that one dude that started crying and puking when his survival buddy shot his rifle next to him because it was too loud and hurt his ears.
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Scruff McGruff posted:Or that one dude that started crying and puking when his survival buddy shot his rifle next to him because it was too loud and hurt his ears. My man, you got a video for this?
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Scruff McGruff posted:Or that one dude that started crying and puking when his survival buddy shot his rifle next to him because it was too loud and hurt his ears. I love that one. He took his earmuffs off in the middle of a shooting session and when he was told that his buddy was about to fire, he just limply and slowly tried to press them against his head instead of saying something like "Wait, I don't have my ears on". It was 100% his own fault but he had to play the victim.
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Enos Cabell posted:My man, you got a video for this? Its pretty great, because the video keeps talking unironically about how badass and prepared they are while he's getting checked by a set medic and crying. Ravenfood has a new favorite as of 15:47 on Dec 6, 2017 |
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Scruff McGruff posted:Or that one dude that started crying and puking when his survival buddy shot his rifle next to him because it was too loud and hurt his ears. That clip really deserves to be posted in this thread https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHOog45llUU
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Ravenfood posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHOog45llUU Holy poo poo, that is beautiful.
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