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Paracaidas posted:https://twitter.com/Evan_Rosenfeld/status/938259408127107072 Didn't he meet her in high school too?  edit: dog tax 
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Data Graham posted:It's your choice. It's all up to you. Yes. Always.
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axeil posted:Didn't he meet her in high school too? He hadn't met her. But he'd seen her! http://www.newsweek.com/roy-moore-wife-kayla-minor-718819 quote:Surfaced by local website Al.com, Moore describes in his book how he met his wife at a friends’ Christmas party when he was aged 37 and she was 23. That’s already a significant age gap, but Moore goes on to explain that he had actually first set eyes on Kayla a long time before.
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skylined! posted:not what i expected in an ending Holy poo poo. History has been made, people. This is like the first non-idiotic thing the LCR have done.
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Mr Interweb posted:Holy poo poo. History has been made, people. This is like the first non-idiotic thing the LCR have done. They also were instrumental in getting Don't Ask Don't Tell repealed.
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This is nth D chess, regressives in AL hate The Gays rinos and therefore will do the opposite.
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WampaLord posted:They also were instrumental in getting Don't Ask Don't Tell repealed. I could be misrembering this, but wasn't it passed only by Dem votes? (back when Dems controlled congress?)
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Mr Interweb posted:I could be misrembering this, but wasn't it passed only by Dem votes? (back when Dems controlled congress?) Yes, I believe it was viewed as a compromise position between "full gay acceptance" and "ban all gays from the military" You know, a Bill Clinton style Third Way Democrat move.
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spunkshui posted:Envy, Gluttony, Greed, Lust, Pride, Sloth, Wrath Who better to bring on the Rapture/Second Coming than the world's dumbest sinner? They don't like him because he represents their values - they like him because his administration makes Judgment Day all that more likely. Then they get to play volleyball with Jesus while mirthfully watching everyone who ever mocked their faith burn in Hell for all eternity. You know, like ~good Christians~.
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The DCCC sent out a memo at the start of this month regarding the upcoming 2018 midterms. What entails are half-assed attempts at curtailing sexual harassment, ambiguous nonsense about unity, and general bewilderment/frustration at the memo itself by recipients. And then there's this. quote:The memo mandates that candidates preserve at least 75 percent of all funds they raise for “paid communications”—which is seen as code for T.V. advertising, a method viewed by much of the new generation of Democrats as outmoded, especially for mobilizing young and minority voters who could be critical in 2018.
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Dec 6, 2017 07:25
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Boon posted:Which is why I hate the idea of term limits and bouncing the oldest, longest serving members of a caucus I think that was to the idea of 6 year terms rotating in thirds every 2 years. If a zeitgeist took hold and some new ideology was sweeping elections, it would have to have sustaining power to overtake the senate (for instance, a 2-term black president that by only existing broke the brains daily of just under half the country...). In that way the senate body was a broader time lapse snapshot of the public, and fads wouldn’t get more than a temporary beachhead. But in a similar spirit of design, it makes sense for senators to not have term limits. Just kidding the senate was mostly a sop to wealthy slaveholders to make sure their power reflected the influence they had to our burgeoning GDP/exports.
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Dec 6, 2017 07:31
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Thomas Jefferson was the Roy Moore of young slaves.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Who better to bring on the Rapture/Second Coming than the world's dumbest sinner? They don't like him because he represents their values - they like him because his administration makes Judgment Day all that more likely. Then they get to play volleyball with Jesus while mirthfully watching everyone who ever mocked their faith burn in Hell for all eternity. You know, like ~good Christians~. Haha, joke's on them! Universal Salvation is the one true heterodoxy, and no-one goes to Hell at all due to the infinite mercy of God!
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It might have been Franklin who said that, I forget, but your point stands that those guys were not exactly laudable.
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Instead of terms limts, just have a mandatory retirement age For every position
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Ragnar Homsar posted:Was there literally any benefit to passing the bill in the dead of night after scribbling illegible changes in the margins? Is the GOP just loving intentionally stepping on rakes by this point? literally the only reason i can think of is they were worried mccain and collins might change their mind and wanted to lock it in asap
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Night10194 posted:8 years of only having to write 'We hate the black guy and anything he likes' kinda hollowed out their ability to write legislation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdTgKarqTQ0
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WampaLord posted:Yes, I believe it was viewed as a compromise position between "full gay acceptance" and "ban all gays from the military" What? No, I'm talking about the repeal, not the initial DADT legislation. edit: Ah, they got 4 whole Republicans to vote for it. What an achievement. Mr Interweb fucked around with this message at 08:06 on Dec 6, 2017 |
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WampaLord posted:Yes, I believe it was viewed as a compromise position between "full gay acceptance" and "ban all gays from the military" This implies that 'full gay acceptance' had a chance. Which it did not. Even a good contingent of Democratics at the time were against gays being accepted. It basically came down to DADT or ban all gays. Clinton was for 'full gay acceptance'. Before this a total ban was more or less on the books and Congress was on its way to passing a legislative ban, too. Even Bernie wasn't arguing for Full Gay Acceptance because he knew it didn't stand a chance.
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Yeah Bill Clinton was a Bad Dem™, but he was on the right side of DADT. He wanted full acceptance of gay servicemembers, but there were enough conservative assholes in the Democratic Party (especially as the South was still a congressional Dem stronghold at the time) who were willing to join the Republicans to force through a statutory ban on gay soldiers.
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Bhaal posted:
Eh? You're thinking of the 3/5ths compromise. The senate was a sop to small states like Rhode Island and Delaware. It was opposed by the bug states like New York and Virginia.
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That Netflix documentary, Icarus, about the Russian doping scandal is pretty good. The director has a bit of a flair for the dramatic (not to minimize the real danger the whistleblower is in), but it might be eye opening to some as to the extent of state led (moral) corruption in Russia. For anyone that missed the news, Russia was banned from the 2018 winter Olympics yesterday.
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Rinkles posted:That Netflix documentary, Icarus, about the Russian doping scandal is pretty good. The director has a bit of a flair for the dramatic (not to minimize the real danger the whistleblower is in), but it might be eye opening to some as to the extent of state led (moral) corruption in Russia. Watch Putin start a loving war.
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Extensive Vamping posted:Watch Putin start a loving war. He'd lose badly. I read the OSHA thread.
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I'd be extremely surprised if Trump has the attention span to follow an explanation of the nuance of which capital of Israel we recognize.
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Priapus Unbound posted:
It's not a meaningful conversation when people straight up dismiss the conversation. pumpinglemma posted:I already said the article was interesting and good. My point was that I needed to read the article carefully to see the problems with the image, and even then the in-thread explanations helped a lot. (And no, I've never seen actual cartoons from the 30s, and nor I think have most people in my generation.) So I think it's going a bit far to call it "obviously problematic" and attack people for not initially seeing the issue. Just "problematic" would be fine. Please tell us exactly how many people need to be aware of a thing before we are allowed to call it obvious, because it is "obvious" to people who are familiar with the source material and the racial biases of that time period. stone cold posted:the people who read the article and were extremely defensive though, those ones i don’t understand Willful ignorance. Don't want to taint the things they like. See also incredulousness at Franken accusations, or a million other things.
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So what would this hypothetical non-offensive tribute to Calloway in the Fleischer art style even look like?
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That's a pretty lovely way to describe Alabama, especially fro someone running for office there.
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Fulchrum posted:So what would this hypothetical non-offensive tribute to Calloway in the Fleischer art style even look like? Draw him like a human instead of a leering monster. Or you know, let the man alone since one lifetime of being dehumanized and mocked for the entertainment of idiot white children is surely enough. This entire discussion is impossible for you and yours to understand because the fundamental problem of not being seen as human is unfathomable to you. It's exactly how the makers of Cuphead could watch enough Fleischer cartoons to be infatuated with the style and never once suspect there was anything racist about them, because black people being represented as animal things doesn't trip any alarm bells in your minds. It's normal, the people who object to it are weird. All those nigras need is some kindly condescension explaining how they're overreacting and they'll quiet down and stop thinking of themselves as people. You don't get that "white teeth leering out of a giant black mouth" is filed away in the same category as hyena laughs and zebra stripes. It's a caption from a bestiary. It's not how humans think about humans. You know the old saw about four blind men arguing in a room about what an elephant is? That's you white goons, any time racism comes up. You're all arguing about whether we're allowed to be offended that you call a trunk a snake and how many pillars a negro might rest upon, when we're in here all along going "no you assholes, we aren't elephants at all. We're people."
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Draw him like a human instead of a leering monster. But all of the characters in Cuphead are leering monsters, and Dice guy is a die. Very few of the characters are human. Wouldn't putting a 100% accurate Cab Calloway expy in your video game only serve to reinforce negative stereotypes. i.e. gambling? I don't recall people having this much of a problem with Dr. Facilier, and that movie had voodoo.
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Avirosb posted:But all of the characters in Cuphead are leering monsters, and Dice guy is a die. Very few of the characters are human. loving christ I knew somebody was going to come back with that poo poo right away. I actually had a whole spoilered wypipo "rebuttal" with exactly your bullshit that I deleted because it cluttered up the point I was trying to make. You got any thoughts I won't find in this sealed envelope I have here or are you too busy hanging around back opining on how the negro is obviously a rope a bit frayed at the end. "My" video game. gently caress you. Here, mayo-eaters, behold: A non-racist caricature of Cab Calloway 
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That's not the Fleischer style, thats Al Hirschfeld's style.
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Fulchrum posted:That's not the Fleischer style, thats Al Hirschfeld's style. Try to keep up, elephant-diddler.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Try to keep up, elephant-diddler. Wait, whitey is loving the elephant now? Trying to keep up with the metaphors
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:loving christ I knew somebody was going to come back with that poo poo right away. I actually had a whole spoilered wypipo "rebuttal" with exactly your bullshit that I deleted because it cluttered up the point I was trying to make. You got any thoughts I won't find in this sealed envelope I have here or are you too busy hanging around back opining on how the negro is obviously a rope a bit frayed at the end. I just don't get how paying tribute to cultural icon and entertainer Cab Calloway became an affront to all black people. Like, characters gets based on famous individuals all the time. Is it just the art style that's problematic? Because I can pretty much confirm that Cab never had a die for a head. Trump is very silly.
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WeAreTheRomans posted:Wait, whitey is loving the elephant now? Trying to keep up with the metaphors Whitey is always loving the elephant, my man. Avirosb posted:I just don't get how You're right, you don't. That's the entire problem here that I'm trying to discuss. But since the problem is "you don't get it," all you can do is... not get it. Black people are humans. All of 'em.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Whitey is always loving the elephant, my man. nice
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Avirosb posted:But all of the characters in Cuphead are leering monsters, and Dice guy is a die. Very few of the characters are human.  Dude. Do we have to do this. There's been some interesting information posted about the history of cartoons. I've learned a lot from it, can't you just like learn something without getting all butthurt that information that makes you uncomfortable exists.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:You're right, you don't. That's the entire problem here that I'm trying to discuss. But since the problem is "you don't get it," all you can do is... not get it. Black people are humans. All of 'em. Black people are all humans, but not all black people are Cab Calloway.
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