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Corrode posted:Yo are you playing that lonewolf40k guy on insta? That's a great looking army. I am, yeah! His army is gorgeous in person. He’s won best painted in a couple tournaments. I was really impressed how Wolfy he made the Primaris from the Dark Imperium set. He’s working on Nids at the moment, which should end up looking pretty great. I feel bad slapping down my half painted Deathwatch against his wolves, but I try and play my AdMech against him regularly since they’re painted.
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Schadenboner posted:The prospero MK 3 marines aren't snap-fit or anything like that, right? If I wanted to put Deathwatch pauldrons on it's just like any normal marine? Yeah they're the classical multi part marine setup.
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Entropy238 posted:Out of curiosity, do people in this thread tend to prefer fluffy play or more competitive play? hi i'm soulfucker ask me about playing nids since 5th edition without any winged hive tyrants I did score third place in a local tournament once!
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I can't bear myself to just slap on paint, but I am way too slow a painter as well.  I can't dial down and just slap basecoats on things to get them done.My last (20-man) tactical squad was a slog. I do all sorts of weird poo poo for my 30k Dark Angels; checker patterns, stripes, some basic heraldry here and there. On top of that, I edge highlight everything. I tend to paint in batches of 5, but I tried doing a 10-man batch that time around and it completely killed my drive. I got a bunch of one-offs done, but my 30k progress was completely stifled because I'd personally gated any vehicles, characters, etc. behind finishing those drat tacticals. It was such a relief when I finally buckled down and finished them up. Highlighting black armor really is that bad, but I have standards, damnit. Stay tuned for my inevitable descent into madness while I 
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The better you get at painting, the more you hate your old stuff, the longer it takes to get stuff ready for play...it is a curse.
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I've settled into a comfortable tabletop level of painting. I try new stuff from time to time, but I've accepted I have neither the patience nor skill to produce something really amazing. At some point I do want to put an army together purely focused on improving my painting and such, but I'm usually too excited about trying new stuff to game with. I will admit that my regular IG were painted mostly grey, and 8 colours total, to get them on the table as fast as possible.
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Corrode posted:I've settled into a comfortable tabletop level of painting. I try new stuff from time to time, but I've accepted I have neither the patience nor skill to produce something really amazing. At some point I do want to put an army together purely focused on improving my painting and such, but I'm usually too excited about trying new stuff to game with. If your stuff is anything to go by I assure you that you are beyond the average table top standard. A lot of armies look good at a distance, but on closer inspection they turn out to be really sloppy.
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Corrode posted:I've settled into a comfortable tabletop level of painting. I try new stuff from time to time, but I've accepted I have neither the patience nor skill to produce something really amazing. At some point I do want to put an army together purely focused on improving my painting and such, but I'm usually too excited about trying new stuff to game with. Yeah, I've comfortably come to terms with painting to a "does it look alright on a 2 inch tall man from 3 feet away on a tabletop" standard. A solid 6/10. A journeyman. The majority of my models are just prime, basecoat, wash, drybrush. And it looks fine. Gyro Zeppeli fucked around with this message at 15:44 on Dec 6, 2017 |
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I hate the thought of my army not looking uniform, and also hate the thought of repainting everything, so my Blood Angels are all stuck at pretty much the same quality level even though I know I've improved. The Fists army I'm starting is letting me mess with new techniques which is great, and I think that either starting a second army or picking up one of the many skirmish games is a good way for people who feel they've plateaued to get a chance to try new techniques.
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I have been working on Howling Griffons #17-40 for a couple weeks. I am getting close, but it is definitely a slog. I still have lining, gun arms and helmets to do.
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xtothez posted:But...but... someone please think of the zoanthropes last game i played a single warp blast took 4 of my beautiful death company the genestealers took the rest
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Uroboros posted:If your stuff is anything to go by I assure you that you are beyond the average table top standard. Thanks. I don't think I'm a bad painter, just a limited one, which isn't a bad place to be - and I can always sit the first Tac Marine I painted when I started playing again in like 08 next to my Primaris from this year to see the difference!
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I'd much rather have an army to play so my strategy these days is to fully basecoat (which includes base, shade and highlight with the airbrush on major areas) everything, except perhaps the tiniest of details. Then I seal with a gloss and call it playable. The goal is to have everything I need to field an army at that stage and then go back and wash, edge highlight, etc. So every model ultimately gets the care it deserves but I'm able to field a good-looking and cohesive army quickly. I'd much rather have a basic army that is consistent vs. a few units/models that are fully painted amidst a sea of gray. I do usually fully paint, wash and drybrush bases before fielding, and that also makes a big difference.
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I am an absolute terror in casual games for fielding half an army unpainted. I'm hoping the incidences of this will go down over time as I settle into 8th and stop finding old 5th ed stuff completely useless (autocannons please be good again).
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Corrode posted:I've settled into a comfortable tabletop level of painting. I try new stuff from time to time, but I've accepted I have neither the patience nor skill to produce something really amazing. At some point I do want to put an army together purely focused on improving my painting and such, but I'm usually too excited about trying new stuff to game with. eight colors, who do you think you are, some loving hobbiest I'm with you, if I can't bang out 20 models a night of something simple (guardsmen, marines) I would never get anything done. Hell I did my shadowsword in like 90 minutes the night before I traveled to Dragonfall. I am firmly in the speed batch painting camp because I am a meta chasing army hopping whore. Speaking of, I played some BA splashed into my assassin list last night. Captain Hammer charging out of deep strike and Mephi rolling around with quickening and wings was a great add to the celestine/assassin soup. I played my roommates bug gunline with three sporecysts, 9 hive guard, 2 maleceraptors, 3 of the zone HQ dude, and like 6 biovores. I almost boarded him on 6 and would have done a ton better if I wasn't wading though mortal wound spores all drat game. We played the new ITC Champ missions and they were pretty good. It's easy to "hold a thing, kill a thing" and keep track of how many things were killed a turn. He crushed his "kill 3 for a point per round" and "kill characters" right away but it didn't matter because ~*~board control wins games~*~ and all my guard trash was holding all the objectives while he was dealing with 17 lethal characters in his back field.
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xtothez posted:But...but... someone please think of the zoanthropes Yeah any limits on smite will punish zoanthropes more than other psykers, which is awkward. Although tyrants are better psykers than zoanthropes now anyways :/
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Naramyth posted:eight colors, who do you think you are, some loving hobbiest Painting a single dude takes me like 8 hours, jesus christ.
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Naramyth posted:eight colors, who do you think you are, some loving hobbiest Ban this guy, he uses Reivers as Eversors, if you are going to be "the worst" you should at least have to buy the actual models. Artum posted:Painting a single dude takes me like 8 hours, jesus christ. Basically this. It is hard to add up since I do my guys in steps, but currently I am working on 6 Inceptors. I started a little over a week ago. I average about 2 hours a night, and I am still doing the first round of Calgar Blue Highlights.
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I spent a ton of time on each of my AdMech guys, and it drove me crazy. I've found the best way to do it (to stay sane) is to do the masses up to table-top standard, and do the HQs, Characters and centerpieces to a higher standard.
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Naramyth posted:eight colors, who do you think you are, some loving hobbiest Run me through the ridiculous assassin spam again, iirc it was like 16 Eversors but I can't remember if there was more to it. My final exam is next Thursday and then I am gonna go full ham getting regular games in, I can't wait. Artum posted:Painting a single dude takes me like 8 hours, jesus christ. Basic Guardsmen I can probably do like 10 an hour. Escher Grey base Rhinox Hide belt, hands, gas masks Waaagh Flesh gun casing Tin Bitz helmet, belt buckle, gun metal Ironbreaker helmet, belt buckle, gun metal Mournfang Brown belt, gas mask Cadian Fleshtone on hands Catachan Green gun casing Abbadon Black boots Mechanicum Standard Grey on clothes Wash everything Earthshade except metals which get Nuln Oil Eyes Jokaero Orange then Fire Dragon Bright. Forest Green highlight for the gun casing That's actually 15 colours I guess, although two of those are washes and the eyes are tiny dots. Bases are just the two greys with some dead grass on them.
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Artum posted:Painting a single dude takes me like 8 hours, jesus christ. One or two guys takes me about 6 hours, 5 take me 8 to 10. I'll never understand the people who can knock out even just basecoating all the colors in an hour.
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Zuul the Cat posted:I spent a ton of time on each of my AdMech guys, and it drove me crazy. I've found the best way to do it (to stay sane) is to do the masses up to table-top standard, and do the HQs, Characters and centerpieces to a higher standard. There are no masses, every Marine is a hero of the Imperium.
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Booley posted:One or two guys takes me about 6 hours, 5 take me 8 to 10. I'll never understand the people who can knock out even just basecoating all the colors in an hour. It's very dependent on the model, but also I do things in order of least careful to most careful. So in the thing I posted above, I spam on the Escher Grey with a big brush, then for the Rhinox Hide who cares if a little bit gets on the grey basecoat, and so on until the end where I'm taking more care and then the lighter grey layer is also covering any mistakes. It's definitely easier with mostly dark colours - my Scions are much more technical and accordingly they take much longer.
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Artum posted:Painting a single dude takes me like 8 hours, jesus christ. Same, and if I try to batch paint 8 gaunts at once I get bored and start rushing. So I prefer painting one at a time and just going slow. But drat its slow. Good thing my friend doesn't mind me fielding an army with half the units in 2 different paint schemes.
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So after years in the GW wilderness as one of the people who routinely made fun of them in the various Death Threads, I suddenly find myself interested in playing 40k again.  Should I grab one of the cheaper starter boxes to begin with, or should I just
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Sydney Bottocks posted:So after years in the GW wilderness as one of the people who routinely made fun of them in the various Death Threads, I suddenly find myself interested in playing 40k again. Depends on which army you're interested in? Marines and DGs in the Dark Imperium box.
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Sydney Bottocks posted:So after years in the GW wilderness as one of the people who routinely made fun of them in the various Death Threads, I suddenly find myself interested in playing 40k again. Depends. Do you wanna play Primaris marines or Death Guard? If so, Dark Imperium. If not, respective Start Collecting box.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MofgqGcXsRI Sneak peak of a new Nurgle daemon in another amusing video
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Corrode posted:Run me through the ridiculous assassin spam again, iirc it was like 16 Eversors but I can't remember if there was more to it. Get ready to ham, and do some slam. Naramyth's Current Garbage, Crica 12/5/2017 (and probably again tonight) Brigade/Vanguard soups (cadia or BA where applicable) 13CP Celestine Mephi Primaris Pskyer Company Commander (warlord, the reroll ones cadia relic) 1x5 scouts (bolters currently) 2x10 infantry 3x10 infantry with mortar 3x cyber doggos 3x3 mortar teams 13x Eversors culexus Patrol detachment (BA) Captain with thunder hammer, chainsword, pistol (buys the hits on 2s hammer) 1x5 scouts (also bolters currently) I place scouts so I don't get zoned out, then keep 14 drops off the table. I don't really care how you setup except for my characters that start on the table (culexus, mephi, celestine, pskyer) can counter deploy. While you are deploying I set up my DZ with guardsmen keeping the mortars (heavy weapon teams and infantry squads) within 12" of the warlord. The 10 mans go forward to screen, die, and hold objectives. the cyber doggos screen characters or fill holes in my zone for deep strikers. Going first only really matters if I can get zoned out (so hammer anvil, or angles) otherwise I go second drop all the dudes and charge all the things. Eversors clean up trash like nothing and can tank or tie up big stuff while the other hard hitters go after things that need to die. Having BA stratagems gives mephi and the captain d3 more swings, swings when they die, and swing again after the whole fight phase which can really tear things down. Uroboros posted:Ban this guy, he uses Reivers as Eversors, if you are going to be "the worst" you should at least have to buy the actual models. *checks ebay* ~30 bucks a model, or 15 for old metal models? Pass. Reivers are way cooler looking anyway Uroboros posted:There are no masses, every Marine is a hero of the Imperium.  
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I am totally going to build an Eversor army out of Reivers. Thanks for this! Time to go find pistol bits!
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dexefiend posted:I am totally going to build an Eversor army out of Reivers. Thanks for this! Time to go find pistol bits! oh god its spreading!
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Naramyth posted:Get ready to ham, and do some slam. Could you post one of your converted Reaver-Eversors?
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I've been painting Death Guard for a friend who has more money than time and I've gotten into a fast base/wash/highlight groove with basic rust and staining on bigger things like vehicles. Unfortunately I've painted very little of my own ork army and it's a weird feeling putting down my piles of grey plastic boys across from a fully painted DG army.
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Schadenboner posted:Could you post one of your converted Reaver-Eversors? Look at literally any reiver with pistol/CCW.  I didn't do an ounce of converting, my first idea was using steampunk dwarves from fantasy but I thought "movie marines" so here we are. And the last event I was at literally didn't have another reiver model at it (with 94 people attending).
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Uroboros posted:There are no masses, every Marine is a hero of the Imperium. Sssshhhh, I hate painting black. My Deathwatch i'm trying to just to tabletop. On a single skitarii, I used: Mephiston Red Wazdakka Red Evil Sunz Scarlet Averland Sunset Yriel Yellow Flash Gitz Yellow Temple Guard Blue Baharroth Blue Leadbelcher Ironbreaker Runefang Steel Retributor Armor Auric Armor Gold Warplock Bronze Sycrorax Bronze Caliban Green Moot Green Abaddon Black Celestra Grey Ulthuan Grey White Scar Eshin Grey Administratum Grey Steel Legion Drab Rakarth Flesh Pallid Wych Flesh Then of course the old favorite washes, Nuln Oil & Agrax Earthsade. All on this one dude.  Hence the reason for a simpler standard for my current army, Deathwatch. Although, I did do a little more work on this guy since they're terminators.   
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Schadenboner posted:Depends on which army you're interested in? Marines and DGs in the Dark Imperium box. Gyro Zeppeli posted:Depends. Do you wanna play Primaris marines or Death Guard? If so, Dark Imperium. I'm OK with SM and Death Guard, I never painted any DG/Nurgle stuff back when I was playing/collecting (stopped around the time 5th edition came out), so it'll give me a chance to practice some different painting skills at making things look dirty and diseased. I was just curious if they were considered "value for money" sets for the most part.
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Naramyth posted:Get ready to ham, and do some slam. Hear that? Those retching noises? Chapter Approved kind of sealed any hopes I had of bringing a competitive list to Adepticon. I'm beholden to both the GT and Team Tournament at this point. I saw a certain someone already planned on bringing 3 Raptors to the GT, and I just don't have it in me to shell out 300+ pounds to have a shot at placing. I'm also team captain, so I've volunteered to paint a 3x2 Display Board for our team diorama, which makes my painting time pretty tight. Since the Team Tournament is actually looking to be pretty restricted there wouldn't be a huge overlap between my GT list and TT list making painting even more tight on time. At this point I might drop from the GT and take my Primaris guys to a more casual event, and save myself the hassle.
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Painting speed chat: I am far from an amazing painter, but I've found that the best way to speed up your painting is to not be so careful with the base coat. Don't worry about getting base coat paint on that wrist guard, or that handsome boi's face or that gun. Worry more about getting highlights on your base coat, but even then, don't worry about that. The more careful (read: purposeful, not slow) you are layering and highlighting, the more accurate you become at the fine details. I approach highlight details like I do drawing, just do it. Don't think about how accurate you're trying to be, and paint the line faster. When I say faster, I'm talking spending fractions of a second less time spent thinking about what you're doing. The more you try real hard to create perfectly thin, consistent, and contoured highlights, the more you'll shake, and the faster you'll get frustrated. This applies when base coating and layering. If anything, spend more time washing. Careful placement of the wash can make a world of difference. They do call it liquid talent, but to get truly stellar results, be purposeful with that poo poo and watch your minis pop.
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Sydney Bottocks posted:I'm OK with SM and Death Guard, I never painted any DG/Nurgle stuff back when I was playing/collecting (stopped around the time 5th edition came out), so it'll give me a chance to practice some different painting skills at making things look dirty and diseased. I was just curious if they were considered "value for money" sets for the most part. The 2 easy build starts and Dark Imperium are all good value. I'd just buy whichever is in your budget. Dark Imperium will give you close to 1000 points per side (less now due to Chapter Approved), which is more than sufficient for some starter games.
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