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i own every Bionicle posted:The only map app available is Apple maps. This would be fine if it were as good as Waze or Google Maps but it just isn't. It rarely does traffic well and about once every six months it will notify me of an accident or police which means the feature is there but it's just never working. I can't set multiple stops on my trip either. Maybe it’s the area you’re in but I’ve had no issues with Apple maps in tyol 2017. It’s usually very accurate with traffic times and routes. Unless my phone is having a period of laggy behavior which happens some times when not connected to CarPlay it’s fairly quick to react. I’ve got a 6+ so it’s not like I have the latest iPhone hardware. Amazon music is definitely supported.
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davebo posted:I'm gonna take this infotainment opportunity to once again bitch about the Microsoft UVO system in my 2012 Optima, just because it insists on playing songs alphabetically by ID3 tag song title, so I edit every song to add the track number before the song title in every album before putting it on my usb drive. If I load Guns N' Roses Appetite for Destruction and Welcome to the Jungle isn't the very first song I hear you done hosed up Microsoft! http://ew.com/music/2017/08/11/silent-10-minute-song-itunes/ quote:On Wednesday, Mezrahi explained the reasoning behind his unique hit. “Hey I released a blank song that will play 1st so that *one* song won’t play every time u plug ur phone into ur car,” he tweeted. edit: Wait, it plays them alphabetically even after you select a specific album?
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Dec 6, 2017 22:28
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I thought I was fancy with my blue and black screen that could tell me what song the radio station was playing.
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Dec 6, 2017 23:42
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You're better off with your basic system. Buying a new car is a horrific challenge of getting all the good mechanical options while avoiding all the garbage "luxury" tech bullshit that was outdated before the car rolled off the assembly line. For reals get into two decade-old cars of the same make/model/year, one with the infotainment and one without, and see which one feels more dated.
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Dec 6, 2017 23:45
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My little $20 Bluetooth aux input receiver is a better interface than any $2000+ infotainment system, and a hell of a lot less flakey than some systems I've used. And it stays as modern as my phone is.
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Dec 6, 2017 23:57
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DEUCE SLUICE posted:http://ew.com/music/2017/08/11/silent-10-minute-song-itunes/ Yeah if I have an album of files number 01 - Welcome to the Jungle.mp3 etc in a folder, it will list them in the wrong order because it doesn't care about the filename, just the id3 song title.
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Dec 7, 2017 00:11
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Guinness posted:My little $20 Bluetooth aux input receiver is a better interface than any $2000+ infotainment system, and a hell of a lot less flakey than some systems I've used. And it stays as modern as my phone is. I used to have a Bluetooth receiver in my old car paired with android auto on the phone in a cradle in an easy to reach location in my line of sight. I'd say it does 99% of what connecting android auto through my current cars head unit (Skoda) does and a drat sight easier too.
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Dec 7, 2017 00:19
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I have a $200 headunit that has steering wheel remote, bluetooth handsfree/streaming and aux and even plays loving FLAC files from USB or CD. I dont see the point of all this integrated tech when the stuff that is moving the fastest, navigation and software/services, updates so regularly on your phone itself that anything you bought would be immediately outdated within a month.
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Dec 7, 2017 00:48
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davebo posted:Yeah if I have an album of files number 01 - Welcome to the Jungle.mp3 etc in a folder, it will list them in the wrong order because it doesn't care about the filename, just the id3 song title. Do you have the track number attribute populated?
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Dec 7, 2017 00:54
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Laserface posted:I have a $200 headunit that has steering wheel remote, bluetooth handsfree/streaming and aux and even plays loving FLAC files from USB or CD. That's the main benefit of Car Play / Android Auto. Absent that, I'll just take bluetooth and a dash mount.
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Dec 7, 2017 01:13
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davebo posted:Yeah if I have an album of files number 01 - Welcome to the Jungle.mp3 etc in a folder, it will list them in the wrong order because it doesn't care about the filename, just the id3 song title. Most systems use the id3 tags over file name though?
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Dec 7, 2017 01:15
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DEUCE SLUICE posted:That's the main benefit of Car Play / Android Auto. Absent that, I'll just take bluetooth and a dash mount. Except that carplay is wired only, and eventually will be wireless, and then eventually again will probably open up to allow more apps. when in reality you can have a good headunit that supports Bluetooth and a dash mount and you dont really need to worry about upgrading to keep up with all those features they trickle out for carplay.
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Dec 7, 2017 01:48
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A CD slot phone mount works brilliantly.
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Dec 7, 2017 01:50
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Laserface posted:Except that carplay is wired only, and eventually will be wireless Not eventually, BMW already offers wireless carplay now. I hope aftermarket / other carmakers do it too.
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Dec 7, 2017 02:07
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TheWevel posted:And Google Play Music. Are you high? Nothing from GM or FCA can touch Audi’s MMI or Volvo’s Sensus infotainment systems, both of which are legitimately good. Close behind them is the latest version of BMW iDrive. GM’s platform and FCA’s one that you find in Alfa Romeos is strictly mid-pack.
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Dec 7, 2017 03:36
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dissss posted:Do you have the track number attribute populated? big crush on Chad OMG posted:Most systems use the id3 tags over file name though? I don't doubt it, and that's fine, but one of the great things about computers are the amount of options and configurability they afford us. Perhaps it was not cost effective to enable the ability to sort files by their names and easier to only pull information from the metadata? Worth noting that my model had the trim package with the upgraded stereo, so I shudder to think what the base unit can't do.
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Dec 7, 2017 04:05
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kimcicle posted:Not eventually, BMW already offers wireless carplay now. I hope aftermarket / other carmakers do it too. Alpine already offers one wireless one too, but I mean that the pace that the phones update will probably see those units superceded pretty quickly, and they are just as expensive as a phone, so you may as well have a dumb head unit and a smart phone that you're gonna upgrade every 2 years anyway. I can almost guarantee you that by the time CarPlay is opened up for more nav apps or features, it wont support older hardware like those found on the market now.
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Dec 7, 2017 04:36
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The beauty of carplay (and probably Android auto) is that the headunit uses the phones software, not software internal to the head unit. It should be future proofed for several years and even when that finally happens you can still fall back to Bluetooth
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Dec 7, 2017 04:42
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drgitlin posted:Are you high? Nothing from GM or FCA can touch Audi’s MMI or Volvo’s Sensus infotainment systems, both of which are legitimately good. Not high, poor.  I was recently in my boss' Q5 and the MMI system didn't strike me as anything different than the typical VW stuff. It was fine but nothing great compared to others. It could have also been the base package. I haven't been in a new Volvo yet.
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Dec 7, 2017 05:27
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TheWevel posted:Not high, poor. If you’ve got some time to spare, check out Ron Amadeo‘s big feature on infotainment: https://arstechnica.com/cars/2017/05/the-state-of-the-car-computer-forget-horsepower-we-want-megahertz/
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Dec 7, 2017 06:57
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drgitlin posted:Are you high? Nothing from GM or FCA can touch Audi’s MMI or Volvo’s Sensus infotainment systems, both of which are legitimately good. Close behind them is the latest version of BMW iDrive. GM’s platform and FCA’s one that you find in Alfa Romeos is strictly mid-pack. I don’t know, FCA's system that enabled remote driving over the cell network was pretty cool: http://illmatics.com/Remote%20Car%20Hacking.pdf
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Dec 7, 2017 14:09
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Shouldn't it be pretty trivial just screen share over WiFi for navigation? I guess you don't get to use the in car touchscreen to control it, but once you set your destination in waze you don't need to touch it again. You can still use voice commands to make hazard alerts etc.
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Dec 7, 2017 15:28
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Don't forget, it's two way communication. It's not just streaming the screen to the head unit, the touch control inputs have to be transmitted back. WiFi should work, but you are potentially dealing with variable environments with passing high interference. The user experience can go downhill quickly in some situations.
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Dec 7, 2017 17:15
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bull3964 posted:Don't forget, it's two way communication. It's not just streaming the screen to the head unit, the touch control inputs have to be transmitted back. At automotive distances wifi between phone and head unit works fine, the reason to not just do two-way screens and touches of the phone UI is that phones and cars have fundamentally different UI requirements, cars can have a wide variety of screen sizes and aspect ratios, and only certain apps make sense on head units. It's dumb as hell that CarPlay only supports Apple Maps, but it's also kind of understandable that Apple has been pretty restrictive about what apps they do support.
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Dec 7, 2017 17:23
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Interference can pop up at even those short ranges. There are certain traffic lights that make my Bluetooth partially drop every time I drive by them.
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Dec 7, 2017 17:28
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I feel like modern smart stereos are just trying to do too much and failing to do any of it well. Feature lists trump everything which is why there's not any decent simply featured things around that do it well (nobody wants it if it doesn't have bells and whistles).
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Dec 7, 2017 18:58
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https://twitter.com/therealautoblog/status/938833236460912640 So, not like a submarine?
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Dec 7, 2017 19:13
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How would a bed made from carbon fiber stand up? I'd hate to see the repair bill for that.
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Dec 7, 2017 19:19
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I think it must be great to be in marketing and know that whatever campaign you run only has to last til the next car.
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Dec 7, 2017 19:20
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Domestic Amuse posted:How would a bed made from carbon fiber stand up? I'd hate to see the repair bill for that. About as well as a bed made of fiberglass.
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Dec 7, 2017 19:36
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Sagebrush posted:About as well as a bed made of fiberglass. That's... incredibly false.
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Dec 7, 2017 19:39
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cool startup feel posted:https://twitter.com/therealautoblog/status/938833236460912640 Holy gently caress did they actually round off the wheel wells?
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Boaz MacPhereson posted:Holy gently caress did they actually round off the wheel wells? They have been squircles for a long time but it looks like they have shifted to being more circular
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Dec 7, 2017 20:19
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Domestic Amuse posted:How would a bed made from carbon fiber stand up? I'd hate to see the repair bill for that. guessing the sides and fenders will be composite and the bed itself would be aluminum Boaz MacPhereson posted:Holy gently caress did they actually round off the wheel wells? FINALLY
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BraveUlysses posted:guessing the sides and fenders will be composite and the bed itself would be aluminum Actually, I'm suspecting the exact opposite. Composite inside the bed, no more need for bedliners.
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Since no one seems to have chimed in on this: I have no experience with Carplay, but Android Auto is goddamn fantastic and allows both Google Maps and Waze navigation. You can also use Pandora through it for music, and since the voice recognition is Google (the same thing as "OK Google"), things like sending a text message by voice actually work pretty drat well. My only complaint, and this is almost certainly a fault of the Uconnect system in the car I'm currently driving, is that it doesn't take up the entire screen and the Uconnect menu bar is still at the bottom. (But it does in the Fords I've been in with Sync 3, so I'm guessing this is just FCA loving things up, and I suppose some people might like having the menu always available). Speaking of Uconnect, it's supposedly one of the better infotainment options, and yet my experience with it has been atrocious in terms of the Bluetooth - it basically is a crapshoot whether it'll connect to my phone (S7 Edge) on any given start. I have had no Bluetooth problems with any other car or device with this phone, but this loving Uconnect sometimes will connect and sometimes won't. It's especially frustrating because Android Auto still uses Bluetooth for phone audio, so just because it's connected through Android Auto doesn't mean it'll work for phone calls.
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Dec 7, 2017 21:43
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CarPlay SUCKED with my iPhone 6, but owns with my iPhone 8. Apple Maps isn't bad for the area I'm in (Montreal). I use almost exclusively Maps, Podcast and the Spotify app. Siri integration is great also. One thing is for certain, CarPlay or Android Auto are much better than whatever system car manufacturers make. Having the navigation on the built-in screen is also a pretty nice feature for my base Civic hatch.
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Boaz MacPhereson posted:Holy gently caress did they actually round off the wheel wells? Wait, round? like tires are? how is that going to work? the shape of the wheel well will match the shape of the tires? Rubbish. stick to square wheel arches made out of loving submarines. Round aluminum arches are for pathetic little girls. e: i've already seen a 2014 Silverado with rust starting to poke through the bedsides. How do they even keep submarines in the water? 
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I got to drive a US production spec Stinger GT2 AWD today as part of Kia's dealer training program. It's cool. Things I didn't like about the drive Traffic Not enough twisty roads The BMWesque detent in the accelerator travel at about 80% throttle. The throttle/transmission responsiveness at low RPM even in Sport. They also brought a Base spec Panamera as a performance and size comparison. The Stinger had more power and smoother but slower shifting (Auto vs DCT) It was also more comfortable over the bumps both in the standard shock settings and the sport settings. Had more cargo space and seating capacity (Porsche is a 4 seater) The Panamera was clearly the nicer and more high end interior and the difference in digital display size and resolution was clear. I wish they had brought something more in more similar in price point like a 440xi gran coupe. Even with the performance difference almost no one is going to cross shop the panamera with a stinger. Their reasoning was while the Porsche is the dream car, the stinger can be the reality car for an enthusiast customer.
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Yo if the Panamera is the dream car and I have 50 grand to spend then the reality car is a lightly used Panamera. 
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