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serious gaylord posted:https://twitter.com/f_cancellara/status/931557302657798145 Hahahahaha. I can’t wait to see how this ends Edit: I actually just read some of the twitter thread on this. I never realized how many fans were upset by his comments. “Put up or shut up” etc. These people realize the whole book is documenting him not being good enough to make it on the worldtour right? Are you not allowed to have opinions unless your Peter Sagan? vikingstrike fucked around with this message at 06:09 on Nov 18, 2017 |
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As if any top pro rider would haul a motor around the loving Ronde The whole thing is stupid but funny as hell
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Nov 18, 2017 16:02
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paddyboat posted:As if any top pro rider would haul a motor around the loving Ronde That's the genius of his bike changes -- the van hauls it around to the hard stuff 
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Nov 18, 2017 16:40
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I know you're joking but people argue that too. The idea that someone would voluntarily chase back on in the fuckin Ronde is just as crazy.
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Oh also, the cobbles? Perfect noise cover for capacitor whine and motor noise.
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It's so weird that Cancellara still happened to be the strongest rider in the world well after they were checking for hidden motors. I guess he could release his old srm files. The tinfoil people would probably say they were doctored or something.
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The truth is starting to come out about British cycling fraud. Britain should be banned from the Olympics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1WTw6nYSmA
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Shane Sutton is extremely easy to dislike. What a oval office.
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Froome's aiming for the giro. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/nov/29/chris-froome-giro-ditalia-cycling-grand-slam-tour-titles Sky's doctors must have found something they can't test for yet
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Froome v Big D should be good
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avert thine eyes
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Dec 7, 2017 15:23
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Still better than brown shorts.
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Withnail posted:avert thine eyes It looks like they just bought a POC jersey and slapped some logos on it. Weak.
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The day is finally here, boys. http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/chris-froome-returns-adverse-analytical-finding-for-salbutamol/ Xabi fucked around with this message at 08:35 on Dec 13, 2017 |
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thank. gently caress.
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It's just high levels of asthma medication, it's not going to result in poo poo
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Skarsnik posted:It's just high levels of asthma medication, it's not going to result in poo poo Your doped up fraud is done here. Make Cycling Great Again! Woo!
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With how slow this thread can get in the offseason I saw 7 unread posts and genuinely thought to myself "hmm maybe Froome tested positive" holy poo poo merry christmas all
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Dec 13, 2017 09:10
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Here's the thing If you have asthma, an inhaler gets you back to 'normal' If you don't it does gently caress all, you can't dope with that stuff This means gently caress all, you don't even need a TUE for it so it can't even result in that silly ban Yates got
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Skarsnik posted:Here's the thing Utter nonsense And Petacchi and Ulissi have received lenghty bans for the same exact substance and at lower levels than Froome https://mobile.twitter.com/room808/status/940851633042452480
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Aside from one small study the bulk of evidence since then has shown it does nothing for performance if you dont have asthma This wont result in poo poo
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Dec 13, 2017 09:27
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Salbutomol is a making substance. He's done.
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I love how inhalers supposedly gets you back to 'normal' and definitely doesn't improve you beyond that (lol). I wonder how they measure that.
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Xabi posted:I love how inhalers supposedly gets you back to 'normal' and definitely doesn't improve you beyond that (lol). I wonder how they measure that. Never heard of a peak flow test then I guess
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"The limit of 1000 ng/ml in the urine is calculated for 16 puffs" So he took 32+ puffs lmao how is this guy alive? Nah he was taking it orally i reckon "It has been demonstrated in numerous studies that the use of albuterol can help to increase muscular strength in users. These are often accompanied by increases in muscle mass. Specifically, in one such study it was noted that users of albuterol showed much greater improvements in strength when compared to a control group, after both groups had previously been training for ten weeks with no significant differences in their progress. The group given albuterol also showed larger increases in lean body mass (2). The doses for these individuals began at 4 milligrams per day, given orally, and were increased and then maintained at 16 milligrams per day for the duration of the study. Similar findings were made in another study where the subjects only trained their quadriceps muscles. Again, both gains in strength and muscle size were noted in the group that was administered albuterol during their training (3). However the performance enhancing ability of albuterol is seemingly not limited to strength training. It was shown that the times of users performing endurance exercises significantly improved with the use of albuterol (4). Interestingly these improvements were accomplished without the drug negatively impacting the VO2, respiratory exchange ratio, heart rate or plasma free fatty acid and glycerol concentration of users during the exercise conducted. Rather the plasma lactate and potassium concentrations were altered. This would all bode well for endurance athletes who are looking to improve their athletic output and not negatively impact other areas of their performance capabilities."
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Xabi posted:I love how inhalers supposedly gets you back to 'normal' and definitely doesn't improve you beyond that (lol). I wonder how they measure that. This may have changed since when I was doing endurance sports (10ish years ago) but back then the procedure was something like the following: - Do a test of flow of air to the lungs without medications - Take asthma medication - Repeat the test If the flow improved sufficiently, you've got asthma, and can take the medication. If not, you don't and can't take the medication. By that procedure, literally, if you're not diagnostized with asthma the medication won't help you. Mind, that's from second-hand descriptions, and I never looked into it any closer.
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Maybe they infused some banked blood bags at the vuelta and it spiked his levels
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scaevola posted:This may have changed since when I was doing endurance sports (10ish years ago) but back then the procedure was something like the following: This is it essentially, I've got exercise induced asthma so have been through all this You get the 'normal' level when you're sitting down, relaxed, below a certain hr etc You get a peak flow test, and a test that I can't remember the name of but you have to empty your lungs of every bit of air Then you take the inhaler, redo the test and if it improves that's your normal level and you have asthma If you don't, it does absolutely gently caress all aside from heart palpitations if you're unlucky In my case it does nothing at that point, so then you do the same on a treadmill. Above a certain hr (and worse with cold air) it all goes south Same test, this time peak flow drops, inhaler gets it back up to 'normal' levels
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Skarsnik posted:Never heard of a peak flow test then I guess
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Skarsnik posted:This is it essentially, I've got exercise induced asthma so have been through all this
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You guys are really clutching at straws here, when he gets caught with dodgy steak then get excited
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He's been caught taking an explicitly banned substance far in excess of the permitted levels for medical needs though? That's hardly 'clutching at straws'.
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African AIDS cum posted:With how slow this thread can get in the offseason I saw 7 unread posts and genuinely thought to myself "hmm maybe Froome tested positive" holy poo poo merry christmas all 19 posts here, so for me it was that, plus "maybe he already Budd Dwyer'd himself". Merry Christmas to you too
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imagine having the kind of positivity and optimism where someone gets a red flag in a piss test in cycling of all sports and you assume theres nothing wrong. pretty sure they include some epo when you go to argos to pick up your toddler's first bike
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HappyCamperGL posted:He's been caught taking an explicitly banned substance far in excess of the permitted levels for medical needs though? That's hardly 'clutching at straws'. Until he gets popped for something with actual performance benefits I'm not holding my breath that's all And imagine having the kind of negativety that this is all a cause for celebration Re: that study about taking it orally do you honestly think they'd be that stupid? Skarsnik fucked around with this message at 12:33 on Dec 13, 2017 |
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It's not negativity. It's a bunch of people hoping the tour + giro this year won't be poo poo. Also, maybe the effects are marginal gains ?
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I'm sorry that your hero is doped to the gills, Skarsnik. I really am.
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Meanwhile, Geraint Thomas slips away in the shadows after screwing a double strength capsule into Froome's inhaler
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Skarsnik posted:Until he gets popped for something with actual performance benefits I'm not holding my breath that's all And it's on the banned for what, shits and giggles.
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