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Re: Franken Dahliah Lithwick had a good article about this: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/12/the_republicans_have_built_an_uneven_playing_field_of_morality.html Not to get too philosophical or political, but it has to present an uncomfortably familiar situation for the Democrats where the action is for moral integrity in this moment, but they lose the ability to fight future battles as effectively. The Republicans don't seem to care about morality because they are right and all that matters is winning & screwing over the liberals. And when you're fighting someone who is not playing by "the rules" and using scorched earth ratfuck tactics, unless you play by those same rules (thereby corrupting yourself), you will lose. People don't support losers in elections. Maybe there's a middle way, maybe Franken should have confessed for getting grabby, made the appropriate sounds & been investigated for ethical violations; maybe we should have had some space in our society for some sort of redemption arc for sexual harassment, but not in this moment in history. The #MeToo movement is very powerful atm and I'm afraid that opportunists and false claims, like the Duke Lacrosse case or that Rolling Stone fraternity rape story, will be repeated forcing survivors to be disbelieved anew. idk, is it better to be a dead moral person or a person with dead morals? page snape:
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Tipps posted:Shout out to the person that recommended the 1904 Olympics/Louisiana Purchase Centennial/World's Fair episode of the Dollop in this thread earlier. Have you seen the (youtube) episode of Pretty Good about the 1904 olympic marathon? Because if you haven't, you need to.
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Jose posted:i definitely believe this will happen wow. that is a very flattering picture!
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Kumo posted:Re: Franken franken claimed the incidents werent as the victims remember and a bunch of other bollocks when resigning so i don't think he's very moral https://www.theroot.com/sen-al-franken-admits-no-guilt-and-offers-no-apology-i-1821086801
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KM Scorchio posted:I don’t wish to alarm anyone, but I think the president might be retarded. Who? The retard!?
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Jose posted:i definitely believe this will happen Stop posting photoshops
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dwayne "the press secretary" johnson
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Dems are loving suckers
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https://twitter.com/EricColumbus/status/938858847883661313?s=17
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Jose posted:i definitely believe this will happen lmao, suuuuure, they'll publish it right after his tax returns. that fat gently caress is 99% rotting pumpkin by weight and they are never gonna let a real physician confirm it all officially
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NotWearingPants posted:It's a bad deal for the US! Curling? Sad! The world is laughing at us! The president will get a new deal done and the Olympics will have Ice NASCAR or the US won''t be attending! luge is already an event
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haljordan posted:Dems are loving suckers Can't argue
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Kumo posted:Re: Franken Minnesota has a democratic governor who will appoint a democratic replacement for Franken, so the democrats lose no votes. And now, assuming Franken would not have run again in 2018, his replacement could get a push start by starting early. So I'm not really seeing this as some kind of grand moral stand vs self interest by the democrats. They get to play the role of the righteous defenders of abuse victims without any real negative repercussions. edit: but I'm not an expert so maybe I'm missing something... NotWearingPants fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Dec 7, 2017 |
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https://youtu.be/2yYdgPJPDck When you was slaves, you sang like birds...
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 21:28 |
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Lol that al Franken is the avatar for progressive in fighting and the child rapist is still in the rubbings
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 21:29 |
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The white men had their chance Give the country to Hispanic trans muslims We regret to inform you president Hispanic trans Muslim is a date rapist
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 21:33 |
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The official theme song of this administration is "Big Fat gently caress" by Ween.
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https://twitter.com/ABCPolitics/status/938861498004320257?s=17 I am getting Rainbow Six visions
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Jose posted:franken claimed the incidents werent as the victims remember and a bunch of other bollocks when resigning so i don't think he's very moral It is possible he's right, at least one of the accusers seems to have a political agenda and who knows what precisely happened in those moments- memory, inclination and time can have funny effects on the truth of a thing, and eyewitness accounts are sometimes wrong. That said, I don't think the 7 or 8 women or whatever we're up to now are lying. And, you're probably right to point it out as insincere. Frankly it is entirely likely that some or all of these things did happen and he should have stepped down weeks ago, but now the Democrats are out a ranking member on the Senate Judiciary Committee and Donald Trump is still president, our tax & social welfare system is about to be blown apart, the government is on the verge of shutdown & we're facing the non-zero chance of thermonuclear war. Not a great time to have a good warrior out of the fight. idk, I guess I'm feeling pensive about this because the Democrats have this tendency to get drawn down by ideological glue traps of their own devising, like they help themselves get played by the Republicans. NotWearingPants posted:They get to play the role of the righteous defenders of abuse victims without any real negative repercussions. Is it just a role they're playing because there are no repercussions? What if Minnesota had a Republican Governor who would appoint a Republican Senator? Would Democrats be as willing to call for Franken's head then, and doesn't this set a precedent that may bite them in the rear end later? Kumo fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Dec 7, 2017 |
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Jose posted:i definitely believe this will happen Quick! Someone put the ‘Fear This’ eyes on her
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 21:37 |
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tfw you desperately don't want to be in a meeting https://twitter.com/jcartillier/sta...agenumber%3D830
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 21:40 |
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NotWearingPants posted:Minnesota has a democratic governor who will appoint a democratic replacement for Franken, so the democrats lose no votes. And now, assuming Franken would not have run again in 2018, his replacement could get a push start by starting early. Republicans are about to elect a literal child molester.
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https://twitter.com/AliceAvizandum/status/938870610805055489
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I'm the muslim puppet
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Jose posted:i definitely believe this will happen I smell what The Huck is cookin
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 21:43 |
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He could have said the same loving response without bringing up slavery and his base would have loved it. What a tremendous pile of poo poo.
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 21:43 |
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:https://twitter.com/ABCPolitics/status/938861498004320257?s=17 Fuze getting real excited to puck some innocent border agents
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Tumble posted:Fuze getting real excited to puck some innocent border agents or Ash
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Jose posted:i definitely believe this will happen
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Jose posted:i definitely believe this will happen "did not contain a single drop of blood; his heart was the size of a peppercorn; his lungs corroded; his intestines rotten and gangrenous; he had a single testicle, black as coal, and his head was full of water"
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Jose posted:tfw you desperately don't want to be in a meeting Everyone in the room understands how social interactions work... except dotus he's probably thinkin' 'bout them biggie macs and also how wild it is that "race car" is the same forward and backward and he's probably the only person to notice that dongald thinks to himself "there should be a word for words that are the same normal ways and opposite ways. maybe oppowords or backwords but that sounds too much like backwards but it's better than backwards so maybe that means backwards needs to be changed to not forward or reverseward"
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 21:56 |
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Have we talked about how -some country-(Russia) attacked US diplomats with some weird loving brain scrambling sonar device lol? http://nationalpost.com/news/world/doctors-identify-brain-abnormalities-in-cuba-attack-patients
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DEEP STATE to Roy Moore: gently caress you and the horse you rode in on.
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nickhimself posted:also how wild it is that "race car" is the same forward and backward Oh! My! GOD!
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nickhimself posted:"race car" is the same forward and backward
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Oh wow I'm TOTALLY convinced there's any possibility that the "investigation" has any chance in hell of Moore getting kicked out of the Senate
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If North Korea nuked Alabama nobody would even be mad. If I was lil Kim I'd be thinking it over.
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