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Kumo
Jul 31, 2004

Re: Franken

Dahliah Lithwick had a good article about this: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/12/the_republicans_have_built_an_uneven_playing_field_of_morality.html

Not to get too philosophical or political, but it has to present an uncomfortably familiar situation for the Democrats where the action is for moral integrity in this moment, but they lose the ability to fight future battles as effectively. The Republicans don't seem to care about morality because they are right and all that matters is winning & screwing over the liberals. And when you're fighting someone who is not playing by "the rules" and using scorched earth ratfuck tactics, unless you play by those same rules (thereby corrupting yourself), you will lose. People don't support losers in elections.

Maybe there's a middle way, maybe Franken should have confessed for getting grabby, made the appropriate sounds & been investigated for ethical violations; maybe we should have had some space in our society for some sort of redemption arc for sexual harassment, but not in this moment in history. The #MeToo movement is very powerful atm and I'm afraid that opportunists and false claims, like the Duke Lacrosse case or that Rolling Stone fraternity rape story, will be repeated forcing survivors to be disbelieved anew.

idk, is it better to be a dead moral person or a person with dead morals?

page snape:

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Aoi
Sep 12, 2017

Perpetually a Pain.

Tipps posted:

Shout out to the person that recommended the 1904 Olympics/Louisiana Purchase Centennial/World's Fair episode of the Dollop in this thread earlier.

If the USA drops out from SK, we may have a repeat of that great event. :allears:

Im sure Pence will be happy if we bring back the horse that can count to 30.

Have you seen the (youtube) episode of Pretty Good about the 1904 olympic marathon?

Because if you haven't, you need to.

mods changed my name
Oct 30, 2017

wow. that is a very flattering picture!

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Kumo posted:

Re: Franken



franken claimed the incidents werent as the victims remember and a bunch of other bollocks when resigning so i don't think he's very moral

https://www.theroot.com/sen-al-franken-admits-no-guilt-and-offers-no-apology-i-1821086801

Beefed Owl
Sep 13, 2007

Come at me scrub-lord I'm ripped!

KM Scorchio posted:

I don’t wish to alarm anyone, but I think the president might be retarded.

Who? The retard!?

WhyteRyce
Dec 30, 2001


Stop posting photoshops

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

dwayne "the press secretary" johnson

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






Dems are loving suckers

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

https://twitter.com/EricColumbus/status/938858847883661313?s=17

:stonk:

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011


lmao, suuuuure, they'll publish it right after his tax returns. that fat gently caress is 99% rotting pumpkin by weight and they are never gonna let a real physician confirm it all officially

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

NotWearingPants posted:

It's a bad deal for the US! Curling? Sad! The world is laughing at us! The president will get a new deal done and the Olympics will have Ice NASCAR or the US won''t be attending!

luge is already an event

A. Beaverhausen
Nov 11, 2008

by R. Guyovich

haljordan posted:

Dems are loving suckers

Can't argue

NotWearingPants
Jan 3, 2006

by Nyc_Tattoo
Nap Ghost

Kumo posted:

Re: Franken

:words:

idk, is it better to be a dead moral person or a person with dead morals?

page snape:

Minnesota has a democratic governor who will appoint a democratic replacement for Franken, so the democrats lose no votes. And now, assuming Franken would not have run again in 2018, his replacement could get a push start by starting early.

So I'm not really seeing this as some kind of grand moral stand vs self interest by the democrats. They get to play the role of the righteous defenders of abuse victims without any real negative repercussions.

edit: but I'm not an expert so maybe I'm missing something...

NotWearingPants fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Dec 7, 2017

Oscar Wild
Apr 11, 2006

It's good to be a G

https://youtu.be/2yYdgPJPDck

When you was slaves, you sang like birds...

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
Lol that al Franken is the avatar for progressive in fighting and the child rapist is still in the rubbings

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
The white men had their chance

Give the country to Hispanic trans muslims

We regret to inform you president Hispanic trans Muslim is a date rapist

Speedboat Jones
Dec 28, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
The official theme song of this administration is "Big Fat gently caress" by Ween.

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

https://twitter.com/ABCPolitics/status/938861498004320257?s=17

I am getting Rainbow Six visions

Kumo
Jul 31, 2004

Jose posted:

franken claimed the incidents werent as the victims remember and a bunch of other bollocks when resigning so i don't think he's very moral

https://www.theroot.com/sen-al-franken-admits-no-guilt-and-offers-no-apology-i-1821086801

It is possible he's right, at least one of the accusers seems to have a political agenda and who knows what precisely happened in those moments- memory, inclination and time can have funny effects on the truth of a thing, and eyewitness accounts are sometimes wrong.

That said, I don't think the 7 or 8 women or whatever we're up to now are lying. And, you're probably right to point it out as insincere. Frankly it is entirely likely that some or all of these things did happen and he should have stepped down weeks ago, but now the Democrats are out a ranking member on the Senate Judiciary Committee and Donald Trump is still president, our tax & social welfare system is about to be blown apart, the government is on the verge of shutdown & we're facing the non-zero chance of thermonuclear war. Not a great time to have a good warrior out of the fight.

idk, I guess I'm feeling pensive about this because the Democrats have this tendency to get drawn down by ideological glue traps of their own devising, like they help themselves get played by the Republicans.

NotWearingPants posted:

They get to play the role of the righteous defenders of abuse victims without any real negative repercussions.

edit: but I'm not an expert so maybe I'm missing something...

Is it just a role they're playing because there are no repercussions? What if Minnesota had a Republican Governor who would appoint a Republican Senator? Would Democrats be as willing to call for Franken's head then, and doesn't this set a precedent that may bite them in the rear end later?

Kumo fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Dec 7, 2017

Dr.Caligari
May 5, 2005

"Here's a big, beautiful avatar for someone"

Quick! Someone put the ‘Fear This’ eyes on her

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
tfw you desperately don't want to be in a meeting

https://twitter.com/jcartillier/sta...agenumber%3D830

bird with big dick
Oct 21, 2015

NotWearingPants posted:

Minnesota has a democratic governor who will appoint a democratic replacement for Franken, so the democrats lose no votes. And now, assuming Franken would not have run again in 2018, his replacement could get a push start by starting early.

So I'm not really seeing this as some kind of grand moral stand vs self interest by the democrats. They get to play the role of the righteous defenders of abuse victims without any real negative repercussions.

edit: but I'm not an expert so maybe I'm missing something...

Republicans are about to elect a literal child molester.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/AliceAvizandum/status/938870610805055489

Speedboat Jones
Dec 28, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
I'm the muslim puppet

flashy_mcflash
Feb 7, 2011


I smell what The Huck is cookin

old beast lunatic
Nov 3, 2004

by Hand Knit

He could have said the same loving response without bringing up slavery and his base would have loved it. What a tremendous pile of poo poo.

Tumble
Jun 24, 2003
I'm not thinking of anything!

Fuze getting real excited to puck some innocent border agents

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

Tumble posted:

Fuze getting real excited to puck some innocent border agents

or Ash

Onkel Hedwig
Jun 27, 2007



:pwn:

Hihohe
Oct 4, 2008

Fuck you and the sun you live under



"did not contain a single drop of blood; his heart was the size of a peppercorn; his lungs corroded; his intestines rotten and gangrenous; he had a single testicle, black as coal, and his head was full of water"

nickhimself
Jul 16, 2007

I GIVE YOU MY INFO YOU LOG IN AND PUT IN BUILD I PAY YOU 3 BLESSINGS

Jose posted:

tfw you desperately don't want to be in a meeting

https://twitter.com/jcartillier/sta...agenumber%3D830

Everyone in the room understands how social interactions work... except dotus

he's probably thinkin' 'bout them biggie macs and also how wild it is that "race car" is the same forward and backward and he's probably the only person to notice that

dongald thinks to himself "there should be a word for words that are the same normal ways and opposite ways. maybe oppowords or backwords but that sounds too much like backwards but it's better than backwards so maybe that means backwards needs to be changed to not forward or reverseward"

Bob NewSCART
Feb 1, 2012

Outstanding afternoon. "I've often said there's nothing better for the inside of a man than the outside of a horse."

Have we talked about how -some country-(Russia) attacked US diplomats with some weird loving brain scrambling sonar device lol?

http://nationalpost.com/news/world/doctors-identify-brain-abnormalities-in-cuba-attack-patients

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/938865470404513792?s=17
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/938873765768855553?s=17
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/938870752333434880?s=17

A. Beaverhausen
Nov 11, 2008

by R. Guyovich

Oh snap!

Beefed Owl
Sep 13, 2007

Come at me scrub-lord I'm ripped!

old beast lunatic
Nov 3, 2004

by Hand Knit
DEEP STATE to Roy Moore: gently caress you and the horse you rode in on.

Stoatbringer
Sep 15, 2004

naw, you love it you little ho-bot :roboluv:

nickhimself posted:

also how wild it is that "race car" is the same forward and backward

Oh! My! GOD!

brylcreem
Oct 29, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

nickhimself posted:

"race car" is the same forward and backward

:aaa:

haljordan
Oct 22, 2004

the corpse of god is love.






Oh wow I'm TOTALLY convinced there's any possibility that the "investigation" has any chance in hell of Moore getting kicked out of the Senate

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old beast lunatic
Nov 3, 2004

by Hand Knit
If North Korea nuked Alabama nobody would even be mad. If I was lil Kim I'd be thinking it over.

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