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The Rat posted:I'd assume they have to be using some special AP rounds, since subsonic means you can't rely on velocity to punch through. if it was softshell then I wouldn't think any AR ammo would have trouble defeating it, and if its plates they're worried about then isn't more velocity better? I'm probably playing arm chair operator here too much but if they're worried about defeating body armor I'd think they'be be using non subsonic rounds. maybe they're straight up ninjas though i dunno
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Yeah I agree, it doesn't make much sense to me either.
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can you hunt with silencers
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Depends on the state. Many allow it. https://americansuppressorassociation.com/education/
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H.R. 38, the reciprocity bill, was passed by the House today, 231 to 197.  It's anyone's guess as to how it will fare in the Senate, though.
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well, poo poo
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Nice, finally the GOP did something that isn't monstrously awful. It would be great if my WI CCW were valid in Illinois.
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the only good thing congress does this session is also the least important
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is there any national standard for concealed carry permit though? Because in Georgia all I did was pay 50 bucks for a background check and get fingerprinted.
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In blue counties of CA you need to sacrifice your firstborn with a blind ram's horn on a supermoon while covered in the menstrual blood of a male sasquatch.
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45 ACP CURES NAZIS posted:is there any national standard for concealed carry permit though? Because in Georgia all I did was pay 50 bucks for a background check and get fingerprinted. In PA it’s $20 and a instant background check.
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45 ACP CURES NAZIS posted:is there any national standard for concealed carry permit though? Because in Georgia all I did was pay 50 bucks for a background check and get fingerprinted. Nope - and I thought I read that this would allow residents of states where they don't need a permit to CCW (Alaska) to carry in all 50.
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Those states would have to do something. Probably just an endorsement on a DL/state ID would do it.
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I LICK APE PUSSY posted:In blue counties of CA you need to sacrifice your firstborn with a blind ram's horn on a supermoon while covered in the menstrual blood of a male sasquatch. I got a buddy who got his permit in San Mateo County. But he's a fed so welp.
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LingcodKilla posted:I got a buddy who got his permit in San Mateo County. But he's a fed so welp. Yeah cops and feds will get them, they can also buy pistols that aren't on the registry.
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Nostalgia4Butts posted:ct is super mad about it https://twitter.com/NYGovCuomo/status/938530129197793280
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Naked Bear posted:CT can get hosed. So can this slimy, lying piece of poo poo: In my career as a violent criminal, I make sure to diligently follow all concealed carry laws of my current residence.
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I've never understood the freak-out about concealed carry, except as an extension of "no one should have guns because they might get in a heated argument, flip out, and shoot someone." The sort of people willing to go down to the courthouse, get fingerprinted by the Sheriff, pay a fee, and wait 30-60 business days before carrying a gun are not the people who, on average, you need to be worried about.
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People fear what they don't understand. If somebody is too lazy to bother learning about some thing, then they won't be able to make well-informed decisions regarding it. If you're a slimy, lying piece of poo poo, you can sow misinformation in an attempt to advance your own position. "Knowledge is power" isn't just some cheesy phrase seen on posters in your local library.
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Dead Reckoning posted:The sort of people willing to go down to the courthouse, get fingerprinted by the Sheriff, pay a fee, and wait 30-60 business days before carrying a gun are not the people who, on average, you need to be worried about. "The average gun owner would not shoot indiscriminately into a crowd of people" is not an argument. No one gives a poo poo about the average gun owner. We care about the few outliers who kill enough people to justify a broad-based preventative policy.
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at the date posted:"The average gun owner would not shoot indiscriminately into a crowd of people" is not an argument. No one gives a poo poo about the average gun owner. We care about the few outliers who kill enough people to justify a broad-based preventative policy. A number of people so small that a broad-based preventative policy is offensive.
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How many people do I need to slaughter to make a statistical meaningful argument that mass ban are worth it? 1000? 5000? 10k? Because Mass bans aren't worth it
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M_Gargantua posted:How many people do I need to slaughter to make a statistical meaningful argument that mass ban are worth it? 1000? 5000? 10k? Whatever the number, it's more than 80,000. You know, unless the cause of death is something that you don't personally care for, in which case one death is too many.
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at the date posted:"The average gun owner would not shoot indiscriminately into a crowd of people" is not an argument. No one gives a poo poo about the average gun owner. We care about the few outliers who kill enough people to justify a broad-based preventative policy. And we have various preventive policies, such as criminal background checks that also include past treatment in a mental hospital as a prohibition on firearms ownership. Many mass shooters have acquired their guns because of they: 1. Had no arrests or involuntary commitments due to mental illness or felonies (Anders Breivik and the Pulse and Las Vegas shooters) and thus were not prohibited possessors 2. Had someone else purchase their guns for them (the Columbine shooters), which is illegal 3. Stole their guns from someone else (Adam Lanza and just about every underage school shooter) 4. Were a prohibited possessor but poor reporting and enforcement of existing regulations allowed them to slip through the cracks (Dylann Roof and the Texas church shooter) Additional broad legislation would do little or nothing to stop these shooters, as they either skipped around the laws entirely or were failed by flaws in the system. Many of the demands for legislation cover things that already exist, and there's no reason to believe that additional legislation is going to be enforced more than the laws already on the books.
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Dead Reckoning posted:I've never understood the freak-out about concealed carry, except as an extension of "no one should have guns because they might get in a heated argument, flip out, and shoot someone." What are you talking about those are exactly the people that you need to be worried about because gun owners are retarded. There should be more to getting a concealed carry license than paying  . You should be required to know basic gun laws, shoot/don't shoot scenarios, basic gun safety, and pistol marksmanship to include drawing and firing from a holster.I went to a gunshow once and a dude was selling a gun that happened to be loaded and someone blew their finger off. I never want to be around that many retards with guns again.
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UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:Criminals just gonna crime so I too enjoy retarded, lazy strawmen.
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45 ACP CURES NAZIS posted:I went to a gunshow once and a dude was selling a gun that happened to be loaded and someone blew their finger off. lmao
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chitoryu12 posted:And we have various preventive policies, such as criminal background checks that also include past treatment in a mental hospital as a prohibition on firearms ownership. Many mass shooters have acquired their guns because of they: Pulse shitbag would've been a prohibited purchaser had his wife's parents not talked her out of pressing domestic violence charges, ideally leading to a conviction. But yeah, pretty much. My favorite bit about straw purchasers and crime is the justice department has outright admitted they don't care to prosecute them because it's too much effort.
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Imagine living in a state that requires a written and practical examination to get a driving license but the state next door just blanket gives everyone that pays x5 a license and those people are allowed to drive in your state
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45 ACP CURES NAZIS posted:Imagine living in a state that requires a written and practical examination to get a driving license but the state next door just blanket gives everyone that pays Depending on where you live, your driving test can be pathetically easy. Some states even publish prep material that's copied and pasted from the exam so you can memorize everything by rote without even needing to cheat. I got a learner's permit by just taking a written exam and didn't need to spend one second behind the wheel to prove that I could actually drive, so as long as I had a licensed driver next to me I could peel out into interstate traffic halfway across the country.
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chitoryu12 posted:Depending on where you live, your driving test can be pathetically easy. Some states even publish prep material that's copied and pasted from the exam so you can memorize everything by rote without even needing to cheat. I got a learner's permit by just taking a written exam and didn't need to spend one second behind the wheel to prove that I could actually drive, so as long as I had a licensed driver next to me I could peel out into interstate traffic halfway across the country. that is an awful, stupid policy that should not be emulated. In fact it should probably be restructured so that such a glaring and obvious threat to our collective safety is eliminated.
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M_Gargantua posted:How many people do I need to slaughter to make a statistical meaningful argument that mass ban are worth it? 1000? 5000? 10k? How many CC permit holders do you think commit murder each year?  UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:Criminals just gonna crime so Passing another law to make murder illegal isn't going to stop any murders. Direct efforts into poverty and mental health, where it will actually help. 45 ACP CURES NAZIS posted:What are you talking about those are exactly the people that you need to be worried about because gun owners are retarded. There should be more to getting a concealed carry license than paying Both states I've gotten permits from had exactly that requirement, except one didn't have the holster bit. Godholio fucked around with this message at 22:28 on Dec 7, 2017 |
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Godholio posted:Passing another law to make murder illegal isn't going to stop any murders.
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Godholio posted:How many CC permit holders do you think commit murder each year? Well I was being really sarcastic, but without cheating and looking at any statistics i'm going to guess that of the CC holders in the US, about 80 commit murder each year... and get caught  Maybe like 12 of those are murders with firearms and 9 of those handguns
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Naked Bear posted:Of course it will, because then it'll be double illegal. That's, like, twice as bad. actually it makes it legal then
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