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I love Westerns, LOVE them. I own multiple John Ford films and a bunch of John Wayne, and of course all of Leone. Dead Man didn't really do it for me. The black and white for me takes away from the grandeur of the Western(probably the point in Dead Man, but I still don't like it), and I was not super invested in any of the characters. It felt very small for a Western. And yes I get that a ton of older Westerns were black and white but I feel the same way about most of those with the exception of John Ford's. Basebf555 fucked around with this message at 17:58 on Nov 30, 2017 |
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A lot of my favorite Westerns are in black and white, but I get what you mean (3:10 to Yuma is a great black and white Western that I would say also feels very small; Dead Man never felt particularly small to me, it's kind of an odyssey). Dead Man is certainly not shot like a traditional Western, but it has an otherworldly feel I really like. Hits that Cormac McCarthy vibe while still feeling like its own thing.
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John Ford was kind of unique at the time in that he was making Westerns in a huge way, whereas a lot of people were making small, cheap Westerns so they could churn them out really fast and make money. So Ford is almost like his own genre, and when I look at my collection the only Westerns I own pre-1960 are all John Ford.
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Basebf555 posted:John Ford was kind of unique at the time in that he was making Westerns in a huge way, whereas a lot of people were making small, cheap Westerns so they could churn them out really fast and make money. So Ford is almost like his own genre, and when I look at my collection the only Westerns I own pre-1960 are all John Ford. I'd say Howard Hawks' Westerns were similar in scope and grandeur. edit: huh, are Rio Bravo and Red River really Hawks' only big Westerns? i would've thought he'd done more than that edit 2: i forgot about The Outlaw, which I've never seen but is supposed to be good Uncle Boogeyman fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Nov 30, 2017 |
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Nov 30, 2017 18:05
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:I'd say Howard Hawks' Westerns were similar in scope and grandeur. Yea Hawks was pretty versatile and did wider range of stuff than Ford did, Ford's filmography seems to be all WWII films or Westerns. But you're right that Hawks is the closest you can find to Ford during that time.
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Nov 30, 2017 18:08
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Anthony Mann's westerns own and some of his best were made in the 1950's. While I'm not sure if any are in Criterion, I highly recommend any of them you can find. Steen71 posted:Oooh. Please never watch the last half hour of that movie.
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Beyond the transphobia issue, I just don't think Dressed to Kill is a very good film. The plot is extremely predictable and doesn't subvert expectations at all, at least if you've seen a lot of the films that it's imitating. In HD it's even worse because you can clearly seen the shape of Michael Caine's face in the background of some shots, ruining the "twist"(which again, isn't an interesting twist anyway). Just as far as De Palma Criterions go Blow Out makes it look like complete poo poo.
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I'm not gonna say the movie isn't problematic as all hell but I think the entire stretch from the museum scene to the elevator scene is some of the most virtuoso work of De Palma's career.
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I'll check out Dead Man, thanks everyone! On the subject of westerners High Noon is a good older black and white one. Iirc it was bc of that movie that Leone hired Lee Van Cleef in his. Also, Peckinpah once said he wished he could make westerns as well as Kurosawa did.
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Nov 30, 2017 20:11
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Hector Beerlioz posted:Also: Women in Love
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Egbert Souse posted:Women in Love Ken Russell rules, good on the CC for throwing his work a bone at last.
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If criterion gets Ken Russell's Mahler id be very happy
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Where's my uncut version of The Devil's??!
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Cloks posted:Criterion is taking questions for Jim Jarmusch through the 8th of December. They've confirmed a release of Dead Man for 2018. The Limits of Control is in bad need of an HD release.
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Hector Beerlioz posted:If criterion gets Ken Russell's Mahler id be very happy Absolutely this. Also, Tommy, Altered States, and Lisztomania. I’d even take The Music Lovers because it’s just so hilariously bad.
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There's a Region 2 DVD from BFI. Apparently, some higher-ups at Warner Bros. specifically won't allow a release of the film in any form in the US. It was on iTunes for a day or two before it was taken down.
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Basebf555 posted:So Ford is almost like his own genre, and when I look at my collection the only Westerns I own pre-1960 are all John Ford. Look at this fool not owning High Noon.
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Per CF.org, Ferris Bueller's Day Off is likely coming next year.
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Here's an odd question - are there any decent brick and mortar places that'll have decent savings on Criterion films in LA or NYC? My fiancee is over in America for a work trip over Christmas, and I'm convincing her to dedicate a small amount of luggage space to carting blu-rays back to Australia.
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Egbert Souse posted:Per CF.org, Ferris Bueller's Day Off is likely coming next year. YEEEEEES!
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Egbert Souse posted:Per CF.org, Ferris Bueller's Day Off is likely coming next year.
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I Before E posted:Wonder what oddities this one is going to subsidize. I would love it if they did Sun Ra's "Space is the Place".
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I, Butthole posted:Here's an odd question - are there any decent brick and mortar places that'll have decent savings on Criterion films in LA or NYC? My fiancee is over in America for a work trip over Christmas, and I'm convincing her to dedicate a small amount of luggage space to carting blu-rays back to Australia. Book Off sometimes. Lately they just price based on Amazon, but if you can catch ones that went OOP after they got priced and put on the shelf, sometimes you can find a great deal.
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I, Butthole posted:Here's an odd question - are there any decent brick and mortar places that'll have decent savings on Criterion films in LA or NYC? My fiancee is over in America for a work trip over Christmas, and I'm convincing her to dedicate a small amount of luggage space to carting blu-rays back to Australia. you can find a dvd of Chasing Amy at any thrift store you visit, maybe even a wes anderson or two.
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Disney/Buena Vista actually distributed the Criterions for The Rock, Armageddon, Chasing Amy, Rushmore, The Royal Tenenbaums, and The Life Aquatic... which is why they ended up cheap in places. The Blu-rays for the Andersons, though, were licensed from Disney. That's why Criterion doesn't sell the DVD editions directly anymore, only the Blu-rays. Paramount did the same thing for The Curious Case of Benjamin Button.
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Criterion is pepping The Virgin Suicides, according to Coppola http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=22535 And thanks for the recommendations!
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Samuel Clemens posted:Look at this fool not owning High Noon.
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March releases: #62 - The Passion of Joan of Arc (1928, Carl Theodor Dreyer) New high-definition digital restoration of the film by Gaumont, presented at 24 frames per second Alternate presentation of the film at 20 frames per second with original Danish intertitles Three scores: Richard Einhorn’s Voices of Light, a choral and orchestral work performed by vocal group Anonymous 4, soloist Susan Narucki, and the Netherlands Radio Philharmonic and Choir; another by Goldfrapp’s Will Gregory and Portishead’s Adrian Utley; and the third composed and performed by pianist Mie Yanashita Audio commentary from 1999 by film scholar Casper Tybjerg New interview with Einhorn New conversation between Gregory and Utley New video essay by Tybjerg exploring the debate over the film’s frame rate Interview from 1995 with actor Renée Falconetti’s daughter and biographer, Hélène Falconetti Version history Production design archive New English subtitle translation PLUS: An essay by critic Mark Le Fanu, a 1929 director’s statement by Carl Theodor Dreyer, and the full libretto for Voices of Light  #913 - The Age of Innocence (1993, Martin Scorsese) New, restored 4K digital transfer, approved by director Martin Scorsese, with 5.1 surround DTS-HD Master Audio soundtrack on the Blu-ray New interviews with Scorsese, coscreenwriter Jay Cocks, production designer Dante Ferretti, and costume designer Gabriella Pescucci Innocence and Experience, a 1993 documentary on the making of the film Trailer PLUS: An essay by critic Geoffrey O’Brien  #914 - Baal (1970, Volker Schlöndorff) New, restored 2K digital transfer, supervised by director Volker Schlöndorff, with uncompressed monaural soundtrack on the Blu-ray Interviews from 1973 and 2015 with Schlöndorff New conversation between actor Ethan Hawke and playwright Jonathan Marc Sherman about the play and adaptation New interview with actor and filmmaker Margarethe von Trotta New interview with film historian Eric Rentschler New English subtitle translation PLUS: An essay by critic Dennis Lim  #915 - King of Jazz (1930, John Murray Anderson) New 4K digital restoration by Universal Pictures, with uncompressed monaural soundtrack on the Blu-ray New audio commentary featuring jazz and film critic Gary Giddins, music and cultural critic Gene Seymour, and musician and bandleader Vince Giordano New introduction by Giddins New interview with musician and pianist Michael Feinstein Four new video essays by authors and archivists James Layton and David Pierce on the development and making of King of Jazz Deleted scenes and alternate opening-title sequence All Americans, a 1929 short film featuring a version of the “Melting Pot” number that was restaged for the finale of King of Jazz I Know Everybody and Everybody’s Racket, a 1933 short film featuring Paul Whiteman and His Orchestra Two Oswald the Lucky Rabbit cartoons from 1930, featuring music and animation from King of Jazz  #916 - Women in Love (1969, Ken Russell) New 4K digital restoration, with uncompressed monaural soundtrack on the Blu-ray Two audio commentaries from 2003, one featuring director Ken Russell and the other screenwriter and producer Larry Kramer Segments from a 2007 interview with Russell for the BAFTA Los Angeles Heritage Archive A British Picture: Portrait of an Enfant Terrible, Russell’s 1989 biopic on his own life and career Interview from 1976 with actor Glenda Jackson Interviews with Kramer and actors Alan Bates and Jennie Linden from the set New interviews with director of photography Billy Williams and editor Michael Bradsell Second Best, a 1972 short film based on a D. H. Lawrence story, produced by and starring Bates Trailer PLUS: An essay by scholar Linda Ruth Williams Egbert Souse fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Dec 15, 2017 |
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Only seen Age of Innocence and Passion of Joan of Arc of those, and both left me pretty cold. It's nice to see more Scorsese at least.
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The Passion of Joan of Arc is one of my all-time favorites and one I consider a perfect film. Especially with the Visions of Light score. The King of Jazz looks interesting. I'm a sucker for early Technicolor/sound films. By the way, the silent King of Kings is probably going to go OOP soon.
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Egbert Souse posted:#62 - The Passion of Joan of Arc (1928, Carl Theodor Dreyer) HELL YEAH Egbert Souse posted:#913 - The Age of Innocence (1993, Martin Scorsese) HELL YEAH
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Egbert Souse posted:The Passion of Joan of Arc is one of my all-time favorites and one I consider a perfect film. Especially with the Visions of Light score. Supposedly (well, according to the Eureka booklet) Dreyer wanted no score at all, but I'm not sure I could watch the film in complete silence. It's a pretty tough watch already.
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Steen71 posted:Supposedly (well, according to the Eureka booklet) Dreyer wanted no score at all, but I'm not sure I could watch the film in complete silence. It's a pretty tough watch already. That is the way that it's on film struck
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Was Joan of Arc the film that had been missing for decades until someone found a copy in the basement of a mental institution?
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Filmstruck just put up a ton of Powell & Pressburger films, plus a bunch of solo Powell films. This includes the long-OOP The Small Back Room, The Tales of Hoffmann, and Peeping Tom. Unfortunately, they're using a really old transfer of Hoffmann instead of the restoration or even their DVD transfer. The Criterion Channel also has a bunch of Juzo Itami films, just added. Hector Beerlioz posted:Was Joan of Arc the film that had been missing for decades until someone found a copy in the basement of a mental institution? It wasn't completely missing. The original elements were lost shortly after release and Dreyer had to create an "alternate" version from outtakes. For years, only that version, surviving as copies of copies, existed. The print found in the institution was an original 35mm nitrate print from the camera negative of the original "A" version. Egbert Souse fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Dec 16, 2017 |
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It's been like two years since the restoration went out and about, right? I saw it at the Cinerama here and it felt like I was having my eyeballs polished. Also, what's everyone's preferred musical accompaniment to Joan of Arc?
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Magic Hate Ball posted:It's been like two years since the restoration went out and about, right? I saw it at the Cinerama here and it felt like I was having my eyeballs polished. The holdup is Lionsgate's lovely exclusive rights to the StudioCanal library, despite their absolute lack of interest in the films outside of Terminator 2 and Total Recall. They've only gotten around it when they only had partial rights (The Vanishing or Mulholland Dr) or the estate intervened (the Jacques Tati films). I've only seen Joan of Arc with the Visions of Light score and I can't imagine it without that.
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