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see that lake in the southeast middle of australia? it's not there in the present day, obviously. that's currently a big hosed-up overfarmed desert punctuated by a series of wetlands that have been severely degraded by agriculture and draining water for cotton farming (why you would farm cotton in australia i don't know). it's a massive floodplain that's disappearing underwater at intervals closer and closer together, and when it's finally too underwater for agriculture, it will be restored to what it used to be - one of the most valuable habitats for nesting waterbirds in the world! 
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incidentally, from what i can tell, that lake will form in the area that has the largest population of genetically pure non-persecuted dingos left on the continent, and they will thrive and be joyous and golden
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Please do not hijack my work to perpetuate your agenda of pessimism.
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pokemon posted:see that lake in the southeast middle of australia? it's not there in the present day, obviously. that's currently a big hosed-up overfarmed desert punctuated by a series of wetlands that have been severely degraded by agriculture and draining water for cotton farming (why you would farm cotton in australia i don't know). it's a massive floodplain that's disappearing underwater at intervals closer and closer together, and when it's finally too underwater for agriculture, it will be restored to what it used to be - one of the most valuable habitats for nesting waterbirds in the world! At least the Aral Sea will come back!!
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Hopefully whatever comes next will do better than we did and not reinvent forums.somethingawful.com.
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gently caress yeah, Lisbon is gonna make it. Suck it, other coastal nations. 
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Is there a bigger version anywhere, wanna zoom in on western finland.
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His Divine Shadow posted:Is there a bigger version anywhere, wanna zoom in on western finland. Phone: no Heres another https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2013/09/rising-seas-ice-melt-new-shoreline-maps/ Jackard fucked around with this message at 12:37 on Dec 8, 2017 |
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what the hell is going on with the (african and arabian) deserts? Is there any scenario where global warming leads to reversing desertification? That doesn't feel correct to me. double nine fucked around with this message at 15:06 on Dec 8, 2017 |
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double nine posted:what the hell is going on with the (african and arabian) deserts? Is there any scenario where global warming leads to reversing desertification? Depending on how bad the ocean currents/jet stream gets hosed up it could change a wholeeeeee lot of places like that. Obviously the new bodies of water and mountains and junk will play a role.
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double nine posted:what the hell is going on with the (african and arabian) deserts? Is there any scenario where global warming leads to reversing desertification?
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As a flordia native, I can only hope this comes to pass before I get too old. We have it comin.
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Evil_Greven posted:https://twitter.com/washpostbiz/status/938506286622216197 I thought this news article had a nice summary of the result, especially for those not able to access the original paper (geez Nature): Ars Technica posted:In this case, the researchers took a slightly different approach to weighting models. Since the difference between models ultimately boils down to the balance of energy reaching and leaving the Earth’s surface, the new research focused on this directly. Not quite related but I thought this was a significant development: quote:Rep. McNerney Introduces Groundbreaking Geoengineering Bill A related summary: quote:Republican committee leaders expressed hope that geoengineering technologies could someday address climate change. Democratic members were more cautious, supporting research but emphasizing it should not be viewed as a substitute for emissions reductions or other approaches for combating climate change. The endpoint of the climate debate seems to be conservatives waiting just long enough to credibly jump straight from denialism to urgent demands for speculative geoengineering to address imminent catastrophic warming. Anything to actually avoid reducing fossil fuel consumption and the associated public spending or hit to quarterly profits. On the other hand maybe it's not a bad time to get into geoengineering research.
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Schizotek posted:As a flordia native, I can only hope this comes to pass before I get too old. We have it comin. The peninsula isn't going to disappear during your lifetime, but if you take good care of himself you'll get to see 2 or 3 feet rise plus stronger hurricanes render the coast uninhabitable.
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pokemon posted:incidentally, from what i can tell, that lake will form in the area that has the largest population of genetically pure non-persecuted dingos left on the continent, and they will thrive and be joyous and golden honestly I'm not sure why you go and rereg and then avshalompost, I'm genuinely interested in your ecology stuff and then you hurl that into the pit that may or may not be your ambiguous genitals
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GreyjoyBastard posted:honestly I'm not sure why you go and rereg and then avshalompost, I'm genuinely interested in your ecology stuff and then you hurl that into the pit that may or may not be your ambiguous genitals what the gently caress
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Schizotek posted:As a flordia native, I can only hope this comes to pass before I get too old. We have it comin. Generally surgeons don't make a habit of poking at and/or rupturing cancerous growths unless they can be removed in their entirety. I feel like that logic applies here for the rest of the country.
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I had a dream where I was trying to drive away from a tsunami. I know sea level rise won't work like that, but it was a good dream still.
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enraged_camel posted:I had a dream where I was trying to drive away from a tsunami.
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is there a good site where I can track the jetstream because I really want to see if we'll get any snow this winter
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Yeah it's called on an airplane
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Magius1337est posted:is there a good site where I can track the jetstream because I really want to see if we'll get any snow this winter https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/250hPa/
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Im assuming you saw this on CBC last night too, because holy gently caress did that ever tug at my heart strings.  Worst part was the guy filming it saying its illegal to feed polar bears in Canada, so he couldnt even help.
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I mean, it's not a homeless human, throwing it a seal is just going to prolong the suffering of this magnificent creature rather than inspire it to get a home and a job. The next decade is going to be really hard on a generation which grew up watching nature documentaries.
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Trabisnikof posted:California is mainly shutting down their nuclear power plants because of cost concerns; damage of expensive replacement parts (SONGS) or costs of meeting newer rules banning once-through cooling (Diablo Canyon). The situation in California is a lot different than Germany tbh. Germany was a country with a ton of nuclear that they ended up phasing out quickly, replacing it with renewable and lignite coal plants. California never had that much nuclear and replaced coal with renewables and natural gas. I don't think they should shut down Diablo Canyon but it's a small part of the grid. But they face a similar situation to Germany in the long run in that they'll need baseload sources in the long run, and that nuclear can't perform that role in a renewables-dominated environment, so the answer is coal and natural gas.
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Nocturtle posted:The endpoint of the climate debate seems to be conservatives waiting just long enough to credibly jump straight from denialism to urgent demands for speculative geoengineering to address imminent catastrophic warming. Anything to actually avoid reducing fossil fuel consumption and the associated public spending or hit to quarterly profits. On the other hand maybe it's not a bad time to get into geoengineering research.
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Thug Lessons posted:The situation in California is a lot different than Germany tbh. Germany was a country with a ton of nuclear that they ended up phasing out quickly, replacing it with renewable and lignite coal plants. California never had that much nuclear and replaced coal with renewables and natural gas. I don't think they should shut down Diablo Canyon but it's a small part of the grid. But they face a similar situation to Germany in the long run in that they'll need baseload sources in the long run, and that nuclear can't perform that role in a renewables-dominated environment, so the answer is coal and natural gas. Another way they're different is that California never really used that much coal to generate electricity. Right now there is only a lone 68MW coal plant left (and LADWP ownership in some Arizona coal plants). The emissions laws and the expense to ship over the Sierra Nevadas meant no one built new coal plants. What little local coal there was got consumed during the railroad era. So the Californian grid is reliant on hydro and natural gas. Hydro is less and less reliable because of restrictions on water releases. So it's half natural gas now and the is rest big hydro, nuclear and renewables. But in 2016 solar produced more than nuclear, so you're right the Californian grid isn't reliant on nuclear in a meaningful way. To California's credit their energy regulator, the CPUC, has placed mandatory requirements for utility scale storage, demand response, and grid improvements. So there, regulators are forcing the kinds of investments required to shift from the current natural gas dominated grid to a portfolio based renewables, storage and Dems age management based grid.
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Not directly related to climate change but still... Recycling chaos in US as China bans 'foreign waste' quote:[...]
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Oh man you mean recycling companies are going to actually have to recycle??? (no they will just dump it someplace else :/)
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Morbus posted:Oh man you mean recycling companies are going to actually have to recycle??? (no they will just dump it someplace else :/) Elon's Mars plan is looking more and more attractive!
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enraged_camel posted:Elon's Mars plan is looking more and more attractive! For the garbage or the people?
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Furnaceface posted:For the garbage or the people? They are one and the same!
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Furnaceface posted:For the garbage or the people? Yes
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Furnaceface posted:For the garbage or the people? We call them "transport" or "goods" now, thanks. I helps keep them docile and avoids panic stampedes during travel.
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Arglebargle III posted:what the gently caress pokemon was demonstrably an avshalom rereg and, as it happens, in this case got rebanned from a post related to her original permabanning (advocating the assassination of the President, which makes Lowtax sad and angry) rather than a post related to her drunken... let's call it poetry if you don't understand the ambiguous genitals part you're clearly not familiar in any way whatsoever with avshalom lore
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We had a wildfire break out today near where I live. I'm in Canada, close to the Rockies. Only 100km away in the main ranges of the Rocky Mountains they're breaking snowfall records. So we're getting dramatically increased precipitation on the mountains and hotter and drier conditions on the eastern plains and foothills. The temperature in the mountains has been fluctuating so wildly these past few winters that we're getting new avalanche paths forming with frequency and size is increasing. I've hiked through brand new avalanche paths that took down trees with trunks over a foot in diameter and the snow was still present in August because the pile left from the slide in middle of winter was so deep. And even with the increased snow levels it's still not keeping up with the rate of glacial recession. When I was a kid, it was usually negative temperatures in winter with frequent dips to -30 or -40. Every now and then we would get a Chinook which could raise us to above freezing for a couple days then back to the deep freeze. Now it's mostly above freezing all winter with a few dips to -10 or -20. It's been at least 4 years since I experienced colder than -25. It was warmer today in Calgary than it was in Florida. Hilariously we're an oil town so even though everyone is like "Oh it's so nice to have all this fall weather all the time, I love these warm winters!" they'll still gently caress you up if you say global warming is a thing.
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