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Pakled posted:Jesus, that's loving brutal. Pointing a big gun at someone really messes with your head. Being on the business end of any firearm is a terrifying experience, regardless of size. Knives are pretty damned unpleasant too, in my experience.
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Trabisnikof posted:If all cops are trigger happy and get trained "kill or be killed" then a "reasonable officer" is afraid of death anytime anyone flinches or fails to comply fast enough. The sheer fact that this guy was not ordered to get face down on the ground and spread high and low while the wealth of officers in that hallway approached and detained him... ...oh hey, Maricopa County. Why am I not surprised. I guess the lesson to be learned is that if you're going to bring a gun into a hotel room, you'd better be springing for the corner suite in a non-budget hotel. Then the staff looks the other way. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 09:13 on Dec 8, 2017 |
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Trabisnikof posted:Just another bad apple I do not advocate violence against the police, but this is a travesty of justice. In every respect, this man's death is on the hands of that officer. Every step that could have been taken to avoid it, the officer instead chose to escalate the situation, then fired once he has psyched himself up to a fever pitch of fear.
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Charliegrs posted:If someone had to choose between bankruptcy and getting a surgery they desperately need in Sweden it would probably cause a political crisis but in the US it's every day. I just had the insurance for my son deny two ER visits 3 months after the fact. Visits that were made because the strong prescription anti-nausea med we gave him wouldn't stop his vomiting due to migraines (at the time we thought they may have been seizure related as he has epilepsy among other things) and the ER even put him on a saline IV in one if not both of those visits. One of the visits he'd vomited 25 times before it was finally controlled, which dehydrates him and puts him at risk of other issues given his multiple serious conditions. So now we get to appeal this and wonder whether we're going to get some huge 10-30k bill from the hospital if we can't get the insurer to pay. Beyond that we get to play bankruptcy roulette when we take him to the ER in the future. Before he started having migraines this year (what it was eventually diagnosed as) he rarely ever went to the ER. Think the last two visits before this poo poo was cut on the scalp requiring staples and medicine side-effect induced hallucinations. These fuckers don't even have a number we could call to pre-approve an ER visit that they can deny for whatever reason they feel like apparently. Can't wait for a trip for seizure activity where we need an MRI or CAT scan and they decide it wasn't necessary and send us to debtor's prison.
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7c Nickel posted:I've did hear the new one's desert world is 90% Mexican stereotypes with a dash of Maya, Inca, Native American and Ancient Egyptian symbols all used because they're generic "desert" cultures. It's a game where Mario literally appropriates other living beings. Mario games in general are all about animal abuse. It's a very ethically challenged video game franchise.
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I don't even think it's made by real Italians.
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RandomBlue posted:I just had the insurance for my son deny two ER visits 3 months after the fact. Visits that were made because the strong prescription anti-nausea med we gave him wouldn't stop his vomiting due to migraines (at the time we thought they may have been seizure related as he has epilepsy among other things) and the ER even put him on a saline IV in one if not both of those visits. One of the visits he'd vomited 25 times before it was finally controlled, which dehydrates him and puts him at risk of other issues given his multiple serious conditions. I have no idea about your situation, am not a doctor, and am probably the least qualified person to talk about anything medical. That said, my girlfriend used to get 16 hour vomiting migraine fests at least once a month. They finally put her on Imitrex which she takes when she feels one coming on. Literal wonder drug, I haven't had to haul her into the ER in over a year.
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I just don't really understand why South Carolina is the place where police officers have been convicted lately. Out of all the places, it strikes me odd. Both caught on camera, but I believe the best part is that the State Law Enforcement Division in SC, "SLED", does investigate all officer involved shootings. http://edition.cnn.com/2017/12/07/us/michael-slager-sentencing/index.html quote:Charleston, South Carolina (CNN)Michael Slager, the former South Carolina police officer who shot and killed Walter Scott, was sentenced Thursday to 20 years in federal prison, a decision the Scott family said gave it a "sense of justice." http://www.thestate.com/news/local/crime/article167275827.html quote:COLUMBIA, SC
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Vahakyla posted:I just don't really understand why South Carolina is the place where police officers have been convicted lately. Out of all the places, it strikes me odd. Both caught on camera, but I believe the best part is that the State Law Enforcement Division in SC, "SLED", does investigate all officer involved shootings. Someone video taped him execute a man who was running away from him in terror. Hard to beat that rap and he shoulda got a life sentence.
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Vahakyla posted:I just don't really understand why South Carolina is the place where police officers have been convicted lately. Out of all the places, it strikes me odd. Both caught on camera, but I believe the best part is that the State Law Enforcement Division in SC, "SLED", does investigate all officer involved shootings. SC averages about 40 officer-involved shootings a year, so a couple prosecutions is likely barely scraping the barrel.
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Vahakyla posted:I just don't really understand why South Carolina is the place where police officers have been convicted lately. Out of all the places, it strikes me odd. Both caught on camera, but I believe the best part is that the State Law Enforcement Division in SC, "SLED", does investigate all officer involved shootings. Yeah, it's that most officer involved shootings in SC are pursued by SLED, which is an independent state level law enforcement body.It's a good model that other states should emulate. (Note: this does not mean SC has solved this problem just that it's marginally better. Note that the prosecutor initially tried Slager for murder and could not get a conviction). Liquid Communism posted:SC averages about 40 officer-involved shootings a year, so a couple prosecutions is likely barely scraping the barrel. Still two better than most places have managed! Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 13:32 on Dec 8, 2017 |
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Dec 8, 2017 13:26
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Seems very much like they discovered the concept of "Offer up some sacrificial lambs so it at least looks like we're doing something"
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RandomBlue posted:I just had the insurance for my son deny two ER visits 3 months after the fact. Visits that were made because the strong prescription anti-nausea med we gave him wouldn't stop his vomiting due to migraines (at the time we thought they may have been seizure related as he has epilepsy among other things) and the ER even put him on a saline IV in one if not both of those visits. One of the visits he'd vomited 25 times before it was finally controlled, which dehydrates him and puts him at risk of other issues given his multiple serious conditions. I don't want to be "that guy" but have you tried medical cannabis? Vomiting, epilepsy, and migraines all scream mmj to me.
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Martian posted:To the guy/girl who said horse people are garbage some pages back: here are some awesome pictures from New Orleans. These are some sweet photos, is there anywhere one can read about the context of 'em? (ie. Why having horses has become such a thing there? Being non-american, I'll happily confess I know perhaps too little about the New Orleans area.)
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Chilichimp posted:Someone video taped him execute a man who was running away from him in terror. I don't think 20 years for killing a dude is very light, nor is 12 years for injuring another one. Literally no cop looks at a 20 year sentence and goes "man got off easy, I fear no repercussion". Certainty of conviction is way better deterrent than severity of it.
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Inepta Lacerta posted:These are some sweet photos, is there anywhere one can read about the context of 'em? (ie. Why having horses has become such a thing there? Being non-american, I'll happily confess I know perhaps too little about the New Orleans area.) click I'm not American either, I just saw one of the photos on WeTransfer, thought it was great and went looking for more.
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Charliegrs posted:If someone had to choose between bankruptcy and getting a surgery they desperately need in Sweden it would probably cause a political crisis but in the US it's every day. Technically the government would pay for the operation and they'd not even cause a crisis
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Vahakyla posted:I don't think 20 years for killing a dude is very light, nor is 12 years for injuring another one. For murdering someone in cold blood, as an abuse of their granted public authority? Yeah, it's light. A non-police CCW holder would likely be eating a lot more, and definitely wouldn't be looking at a suspended sentence and probation as any part of a plea deal.
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Vahakyla posted:I don't think 20 years for killing a dude is very light, nor is 12 years for injuring another one. yeah, no cop, which is sorta the loving point.
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Don't forget the fact that ex-cops generally get better treatment in prison, and can be segregated into safer environs because of likely reprisal - *especially* in this guy's case.
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I think Vahakyla meant "not very light compared to what they usually get"
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Liquid Communism posted:For murdering someone in cold blood, as an abuse of their granted public authority? Yeah, it's light. A non-police CCW holder would likely be eating a lot more, and definitely wouldn't be looking at a suspended sentence and probation as any part of a plea deal. Relative to precedented sentencing in the US it's definitely light, but I expect that for many non-Americans it comes off as rather extreme. Some places would consider a life sentence cruel and unusual after all.
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PhazonLink posted:Is it really dumb if he sort of gets a thing he wants and causes Donnie to get most of the blame? yeah because we shouldn't be helping gently caress up the middle east. i hop ehe get primaried.
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https://twitter.com/CNN/status/939119705670995969 is it fair to still call it drip, drip, drip when it's the Niagara Falls?
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Martian posted:click Cheers, and sweet catch. Completely agree with you. 
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canepazzo posted:I think Vahakyla meant "not very light compared to what they usually get" I know what he meant and I'm allowed to think he didn't get what he deserved, which was life in prison for first degree murder. I don't take particular comfort that an officer of the law executed a man and only get 20 years in prison for 2nd degree. Is it more than cops usually get? Yes. Most cops aren't caught on camera, talking to a man in a deserted lot, then draw their guns and tell the man to run and then execute the guy. That mother-fucker MURDERED somebody and it was caught on camera. And I don't mean the usual cop murders civilian situations, where they killed a person because training with their body cam/dash cam on. That's egregious too, and I don't want to downplay it, but this cop literally loving murdered a guy and a hidden 3rd party got the whole thing on tape. Chilichimp fucked around with this message at 14:22 on Dec 8, 2017 |
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Don't forget the fact that ex-cops generally get better treatment in prison, and can be segregated into safer environs because of likely reprisal - *especially* in this guy's case. Extra-judicial punishment is hosed up but for cops I'll make an exception. Throw em in gen pop and tattoo "this cop murdered someone in cold blood" and see how long they last. He showed he has no respect for human life, why should we have any respect for his?
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Chilichimp posted:I know what he meant and I'm allowed to think he didn't get what he deserved, which was life in prison for first degree murder. It's not quite on par what a non-cop would get, but 20 year sentence isn't light in any civilized country, and life in prison is cruel and unusual in any sane place. 20 years is a loving eternity, and this kind of bloodlust is loving weird. Justice should be progressive for everyone, and lenient, and cops shouldn't get preferential treatment over others, but for gently caress's sake get some perspective on 20 years in an american prison.
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Vahakyla posted:It's not quite on par what a non-cop would get, but 20 year sentence isn't light in any civilized country, and life in prison is cruel and unusual in any sane place. When we're Norway and we don't actually have a punishment harsher than 20 years in prison, I'll walk this poo poo back, but brothers get put up for life every fuckin' day in the land of the free for less, with less evidence. Again, I don't take comfort in knowing 20 years is a lot, when I know that a black civilian male would be executed if he was the defendant in this case.
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axeil posted:Extra-judicial punishment is hosed up but for cops I'll make an exception. Throw em in gen pop and tattoo "this cop murdered someone in cold blood" and see how long they last. He showed he has no respect for human life, why should we have any respect for his? So we're back to eye for an eye then?
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Speaking of Franken and mental gymnastics: LOL at "What happened to popular vote" because Hillary won the election. When this trump nightmare is over, someone needs to cobble together all of his tweets in a way that basically has him arguing against himself, then sprinkle in poo poo like this; Hannitty and RWM etc as a running commentary. I think it'd be fascinating
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Just sent Doug Jones $25, gently caress Roy Moore and the underage horse he rode in on. Even if Jones loses I would rather say I made a tangible effort to help beat him.
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canepazzo posted:https://twitter.com/CNN/status/939119705670995969  One of the responses is "can they really be that stupid?". I feel that answering it with a "Well, duh!" might be too harsh because holy poo poo is the whole family filled with loving idiots but the passage of time only further expands on how godawfully loving stupid they truly are and how money is the only thing that has kept them failing upwards.
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Wark Say posted:
Ivanka being of average intelligence was all that was required for those stupid op-eds that she was some sort of super genius behind the scenes.
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canepazzo posted:https://twitter.com/CNN/status/939119705670995969 Can we loving call it collusion yet? Because that's what it loving was. These stories keep dropping. These things keep happening. More and more of what happened is revealed and yet still our idiot media goes "Well, what if..." loving NO. They did it. They worked with a foreign power to steal an American election. And if I ever hear anyone call Julian Assange a hero again I will loving shiv them with a broken bottle.
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Wark Say posted:
Can't really call them stupid until actual indictions (if ever) fly. So far, they're getting away with it. Alter Ego posted:Can we loving call it collusion yet? Because that's what it loving was. The problem is this: https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/939106274549075970
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Rigel posted:
Autistic cop trying to play army man just like they do in the call of dootys! 90% of his SWAT training probably consisted of how to put on his tactical vest the right way, and shoelace verification for optimal tying to prevent falls during breach and clearing of motel rooms. "KEYCARD! KEYCARD!"
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If they get away with it, it won't be because of anything smart they did. It will be because we have a political party that is so off the rails they are pushing a pedophile in order to make sure they have enough votes to crash the economy and throw people off healthcare, but in a way that will make sure people that have more money than they will spend in a thousand lifetimes have some more.
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