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goethe.cx
Apr 23, 2014



this doesn't surprise me. he ran a porn website too. dude seems like a real creep, and supposedly is a complete rear end in a top hat to his clerks

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Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

https://twitter.com/ashleyfeinberg/status/939270548202360834

skylined!
Apr 6, 2012

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

empty whippet box posted:

Ugh. gently caress this guy, can he be forced out of office if he refuses to resign for this? I confess I know next to nothing about this guy, though I've heard his name before. Was he already a known horrible shitbag or what?

wikipedia posted:

In 2008, The Los Angeles Times revealed Kozinski "maintained a publicly accessible website featuring sexually explicit photos and videos."[13] Kozinski had collected a "vast" number of images sent to him via e-mail over many years and retained them on a personal web server in his home. Only a "small fraction" of the images were offensive. Kozinski believed that only invited friends and family were able to view the image directory.[14] Nonetheless, he called for an ethics investigation of himself.[15] In July 2009, a panel headed by Judge Anthony Scirica wrote that Kozinski should have administered his web server more carefully, but Kozinski's apology and deletion of the web site "properly conclude" the matter.[16][17]

loooooooooool

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

Re: travel, I don’t understand how it makes you “more enlightened”. I have been to tons of places with my parents but we mostly see monuments or museums with tour guides. How does that make you more tolerant? It definitely didn’t do so for my parents, their views are frighteningly close to American right wingg despite having only visited the U.S. once.

Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011

Don't read speculative fiction about Nuclear War if you have anxiety in 2017, Jesus Christ.

skylined!
Apr 6, 2012

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

Dapper_Swindler posted:

if he wins its loving depressing, but that then is an albatross around the gop's neck especially given the fact the dude is loving nutjob who will be at war with the establishment and probably ruin a ton of votes. that being said. i still have some faith in the non insane conservatives and moderates and trump backing him will probably draw more people to vote against him a gently caress you to trump.

the multiverse brain has been ecstatic about this election since moore won the nomination

there is no bad outcome for democrats here you fuckos

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

AceOfFlames posted:

Re: travel, I don’t understand how it makes you “more enlightened”. I have been to tons of places with my parents but we mostly see monuments or museums with tour guides. How does that make you more tolerant? It definitely didn’t do so for my parents, their views are frighteningly close to American right wingg despite having only visited the U.S. once.

it's something which shows off your wealth worldliness, like monthlong yoga camps or trips to burning man

Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006

https://twitter.com/ShaunKing/status/939014159726870530

Jesus. Instead of simply telling the guy, who obviously was trying to comply, to lay perfectly still with his hands forward on the ground or whatever, the power tripping cop gives him a loving elaborate series of instructions including asking him to raise up from a prone position and approach him, all the while telling him that any mistake will result in his death, the guy fails the game of "Simon Says" probably because he was trying to pull up his loving pants that were coming down because of the idiotic instruction for that guy to crawl, poor sod is executed and it's adjudged by American society to be a righteous shoot.

How many people would even be able to properly put whichever leg over the other the guy instructed in a circumstance like that? And then get killed because I said LEFT LEG NOT RIGHT MOTHERFUCKER?

loving hell.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe

skylined! posted:

loooooooooool

Wasn't there some judge who had like tons of porn on his web site, including bestiality and poo poo? Was it this dude?

skylined!
Apr 6, 2012

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON
i know it's been posted by just how many times has this thought been shared among this administration

https://twitter.com/gabrielsherman/status/939270427490377728

Stickman
Feb 1, 2004

AceOfFlames posted:

Re: travel, I don’t understand how it makes you “more enlightened”. I have been to tons of places with my parents but we mostly see monuments or museums with tour guides. How does that make you more tolerant? It definitely didn’t do so for my parents, their views are frighteningly close to American right wingg despite having only visited the U.S. once.

You get out what you put in.

Caros
May 14, 2008

Zwabu posted:

https://twitter.com/ShaunKing/status/939014159726870530

Jesus. Instead of simply telling the guy, who obviously was trying to comply, to lay perfectly still with his hands forward on the ground or whatever, the power tripping cop gives him a loving elaborate series of instructions including asking him to raise up from a prone position and approach him, all the while telling him that any mistake will result in his death, the guy fails the game of "Simon Says" probably because he was trying to pull up his loving pants that were coming down because of the idiotic instruction for that guy to crawl, poor sod is executed and it's adjudged by American society to be a righteous shoot.

How many people would even be able to properly put whichever leg over the other the guy instructed in a circumstance like that? And then get killed because I said LEFT LEG NOT RIGHT MOTHERFUCKER?

loving hell.

Rub your belly and pat your head motherfucker or I will end you.

Jesus loving christ.

Edit: Wait, are you loving kidding me? This was ruled okay? They straight up murdered him while he was bawling his eyes out and obeying them.

Caros fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Dec 9, 2017

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Stickman posted:

You get out what you put in.
Yeah going on packaged tours with other hordes of tourists won't do jack poo poo. The idea is that you spend time with the locals in their natural habitat and realize they aren't a bunch of savages even if they have a different language/skin color/religion/etc.

Helen Highwater
Feb 19, 2014

And furthermore
Grimey Drawer

AceOfFlames posted:

Re: travel, I don’t understand how it makes you “more enlightened”. I have been to tons of places with my parents but we mostly see monuments or museums with tour guides. How does that make you more tolerant? It definitely didn’t do so for my parents, their views are frighteningly close to American right wingg despite having only visited the U.S. once.

Spend time outside your hotel room, meet the people whose home you are visiting. If all you're doing is walking through a canned tour and only meaningfully interacting with the people in your tour group, then you may as well stay at home and read the Wikipedia page about the place.

In the last twelve years, I've lived and worked in 8 different countries. My worldview has changed massively as a result.

predicto
Jul 22, 2004

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

empty whippet box posted:

Ugh. gently caress this guy, can he be forced out of office if he refuses to resign for this? I confess I know next to nothing about this guy, though I've heard his name before. Was he already a known horrible shitbag or what?

Yes, he's a libertarian shitbag,

but to be honest, when you compare him to the more recent breed of outright shameless political hack idealogue judges the GOP has shoved though since 200, he starts to look far, far better by comparison.

Hijinks Ensue
Jul 24, 2007

Spiritus Nox posted:

Don't read speculative fiction about Nuclear War if you have anxiety in 2017, Jesus Christ.

Oops. Probably should cancel the blu-ray of Threads that I just pre-ordered.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

Caros posted:

Rub your belly and pat your head motherfucker or I will end you.

Jesus loving christ.

Edit: Wait, are you loving kidding me? This was ruled okay? They straight up murdered him while he was bawling his eyes out and obeying them.

For whatever reason, American juries will not convict cops, period.

WeAreTheRomans
Feb 23, 2010

by R. Guyovich

AceOfFlames posted:

Re: travel, I don’t understand how it makes you “more enlightened”. I have been to tons of places with my parents but we mostly see monuments or museums with tour guides. How does that make you more tolerant? It definitely didn’t do so for my parents, their views are frighteningly close to American right wingg despite having only visited the U.S. once.

Is this a joke post? Looking at monuments doesn't provide a cultural education, interacting with people from other cultures does.

Z. Autobahn
Jul 20, 2004

colonel tigh more like colonel high

axeil posted:

It seems far more likely than those and there's nothing we can do about the latter two while we can impeach trump right now to prevent the first.

edit: I mean I'd like to be talked down off the ledge on this. It's scary as gently caress.

If seriously engaging this will help you: while the odds of a conflict happening with NK are definitely more likely, the odds of a successful cross-fire nuclear exchange are pretty much up there with global gamma burst. This article makes a LOT of dumb assumptions to get to its doomsday conclusion. For one, the idea that NK would massively attack SK and Japan and we'd retaliate with an ineffective conventional air campaign is nonsense; under the Obama administration maybe, but the danger we have is that Trump will be *too* likely to nuke NK, not that he'll inexplicably decide to hold back given an actual legitimate excuse. It also inexplicably presumes no Chinese involvement, which makes no sense in this case. Finally, it takes the most generous, far-fetched assumptions about the state of NK nuclear technology and their plausible success rate.

It's a late-season 24 episode, and it's fear-mongering the implausible (massive nuclear deaths in the US!) while ignoring the actual very plausible horrors (widespread deaths in SK due to conventional weapons).

In any case: your odds of getting hit by a car while crossing the road today are still astronomically higher than the odds of you dying from a NK nuke.

Teabag Dome Scandal
Mar 19, 2002


business hammocks posted:

It’s just bullshit clickbait. There’s no reason to fear this specific scenario over, say, a gamma ray burst sterilizing the Earth or a comet strike.
Or is it?

Stickman
Feb 1, 2004

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

For whatever reason, American juries will not convict cops, period.

Shaun King has a pretty good piece about how the "belief of threat" standard for lethal force has effectively neutered the court system's ability to prosecute police brutality [New York Daily News].

I'm definitely not a legal expert, so someone will have to tell me if this is way off mark.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

For whatever reason, American juries will not convict cops, period.

That's not true.

They convict some non white cops. Like that asian cop that killed a black in a NYC stair well, that black(latino?) cop that killed a white woman.

RuanGacho
Jun 20, 2002

"You're gunna break it!"

WeAreTheRomans posted:

Is this a joke post? Looking at monuments doesn't provide a cultural education, interacting with people from other cultures does.

I'm such a statist nerd when I'm in another country I ask questions about and study their infrastructure :3:

axeil
Feb 14, 2006

Z. Autobahn posted:

If seriously engaging this will help you: while the odds of a conflict happening with NK are definitely more likely, the odds of a successful cross-fire nuclear exchange are pretty much up there with global gamma burst. This article makes a LOT of dumb assumptions to get to its doomsday conclusion. For one, the idea that NK would massively attack SK and Japan and we'd retaliate with an ineffective conventional air campaign is nonsense; under the Obama administration maybe, but the danger we have is that Trump will be *too* likely to nuke NK, not that he'll inexplicably decide to hold back given an actual legitimate excuse. It also inexplicably presumes no Chinese involvement, which makes no sense in this case. Finally, it takes the most generous, far-fetched assumptions about the state of NK nuclear technology and their plausible success rate.

It's a late-season 24 episode, and it's fear-mongering the implausible (massive nuclear deaths in the US!) while ignoring the actual very plausible horrors (widespread deaths in SK due to conventional weapons).

In any case: your odds of getting hit by a car while crossing the road today are still astronomically higher than the odds of you dying from a NK nuke.

Thanks for this :unsmith:

Lemming
Apr 21, 2008

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

For whatever reason, American juries will not convict cops, period.

Uh oh, you've lit the Cop Apologist signal

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


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Morbid Hound

That's part of it, but I think even with a revised standard, I suspect there's a certain percentage of jurors who are just always going to support an authority figure, period. Like, Michael Slager was *clearly* guilty as hell of murder -- he shot a running man in the back -- but there was still a juror who refused to convict.

Boon
Jun 21, 2005

by R. Guyovich

AceOfFlames posted:

Re: travel, I don’t understand how it makes you “more enlightened”. I have been to tons of places with my parents but we mostly see monuments or museums with tour guides. How does that make you more tolerant? It definitely didn’t do so for my parents, their views are frighteningly close to American right wingg despite having only visited the U.S. once.


Stickman posted:

You get out what you put in.

Exactly. If you spend your time and can speak English everywhere you go while touring around the stereotypical sights you're probably not going to get very much out of it.

Yes, see the sights, there's a reason they're popular. But instead of that restaurant with the English menu, go find the local spots, try something new, and even if you don't like it thank the person anyway. Stay at a hostel or with a local family, ask people about their lives. Go to a bar where youre the only foreigner there. Learn about their culture through their eyes and try the language. Gain some perspective.

skylined!
Apr 6, 2012

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON
doug jones 2020

https://twitter.com/GDouglasJones/status/939274413651918849

(this is the whole speech where he mocks moore for being a cuet lil beepboop cattle russler)

TheMadMilkman
Dec 10, 2007

Living overseas and having to communicate while barely speaking the local language changes you.

Having to learn to adapt with different ways of doing things, because the locals certainly aren't going to change for you, changes you.

Learning to participate and fit in with a different culture changes you.

Seeing the Tower of Pisa? Ya, that kind of tourism doesn't do squat.

Z. Autobahn
Jul 20, 2004

colonel tigh more like colonel high

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

That's part of it, but I think even with a revised standard, I suspect there's a certain percentage of jurors who are just always going to support an authority figure, period. Like, Michael Slager was *clearly* guilty as hell of murder -- he shot a running man in the back -- but there was still a juror who refused to convict.

I think the cultural conflict and high partisanship plays in here; I think there's a feeling that siding against a cop means you're a BLM-supporting liberal, and that's all that matters for some people, no matter how egregious the case is.

Electric Phantasm
Apr 7, 2011

YOSPOS

Lemming posted:

Uh oh, you've lit the Cop Apologist signal

Do we even have Cop Apologist? I have never seen "cops are good actually" posted on this website.

Zisky
May 6, 2003

PM me and I will show you my tits

Hijinks Ensue posted:

Oops. Probably should cancel the blu-ray of Threads that I just pre-ordered.

Oh joy, a totally remastered way to give yourself weeks of agonizing nightmares.

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen
https://twitter.com/adamgoldmanNYT/status/939245933254053888

Stickman
Feb 1, 2004

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

That's part of it, but I think even with a revised standard, I suspect there's a certain percentage of jurors who are just always going to support an authority figure, period. Like, Michael Slager was *clearly* guilty as hell of murder -- he shot a running man in the back -- but there was still a juror who refused to convict.

I definitely agree - I just wasn't aware of how much the legal framework exacerbated the problem before I read that article. I'm not sure what a good solution to the "blind obedience to authority" problem would be, except to eliminate juries from cases of killings/brutality committed in the line of duty.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna

:getin: she's going to squeal so loving much

RuanGacho
Jun 20, 2002

"You're gunna break it!"

Electric Phantasm posted:

Do we even have Cop Apologist? I have never seen "cops are good actually" posted on this website.

If we name them they will appear. It's like they google their usernames or some other weird poo poo.

Ever Disappointing
May 4, 2004

.

Ever Disappointing fucked around with this message at 06:36 on Dec 12, 2017

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Z. Autobahn posted:

This article makes a LOT of dumb assumptions to get to its doomsday conclusion. For one, the idea that NK would massively attack SK and Japan and we'd retaliate with an ineffective conventional air campaign is nonsense; under the Obama administration maybe, but the danger we have is that Trump will be *too* likely to nuke NK, not that he'll inexplicably decide to hold back given an actual legitimate excuse.

Yes, exactly: the article is overly optimistic about USA's method of retaliation.

quote:

It also inexplicably presumes no Chinese involvement, which makes no sense in this case.

If North Korea launched nukes at SK and Japan, what exactly do you think China would do?

quote:

Finally, it takes the most generous, far-fetched assumptions about the state of NK nuclear technology and their plausible success rate.

After the last NK missile test, experts now believe NK ICBM's can reach USA's east coast. That is according to Mattis as well as many others.

I mean look dude I get it, you want to believe the situation isn't dire because for some people that's the only way to stay sane. But, in my humble opinion, you're out of your god drat mind.

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen
Also the feds got a haul from Manafort during that raid. For some reason he had 36 laptops.

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/939250754665185280

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Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
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