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Option C I guess you could call us the Timuids
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Captain Oblivious posted:Basically, I think the logic is that a Napoleon figure plus alliances with the Revolution are our best chance at actually reunifying Al-Andalus in time for Vicky. Oh, I totally agree, C will be astonishing, but it's in the air if that's because of an amazing reversal of fortunes or we get our poo poo kicked in by literally everybody possible. I was going to go for it, but ultimately I figured that it'll win anyway and I needed to voice my displeasure at us making a second monster in our backyard. Never should have tried loving over Morocco, least not with France right there.
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Dec 10, 2017 04:34
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I'm laughing as I count my money in a bank in Ibriz. Maybe you all should look to ally a REAL revolutionary power. 
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Dec 10, 2017 04:35
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AJ_Impy posted:True, we need an Andalusi solution. I know, let's bring in the Madhi! To be clear I'm shouting this from across the Straights.
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Dec 10, 2017 04:51
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Lord Cyrahzax posted:An eight-pointed star would make a cool symbol for the Majlis... 
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Dec 10, 2017 05:15
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C lets go with the new hotness
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Dec 10, 2017 05:22
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Option C Nothing can go wrong with taking up an ideology literally all of our neighbors and all of the biggest foreign powers who can intervene against us hate! Zikan fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Dec 20, 2017 |
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Dec 10, 2017 07:55
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Rest In Peace Jizrunids, may Option B - Sheikh Al Farih Also, how do the Mongol Empire, Mongolia, Yuan, and the Golden Horde all co-exist? 
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Dec 10, 2017 08:54
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catlord posted:I still don't get why we decided we needed to make ourselves another enemy and throw away centuries of alliances with Morocco, so I'm in for A. From what I remember most anti-Almoravid proponents have two main arguments to make:
 -train and most likely managing to gently caress that up as well - is the fact that it will make us unable to conquer the insane Madhi realm without breaking our own Moroccan alliance. So y'know, that's something at least.
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Dec 10, 2017 09:32
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Option C - Ibn Timu YES! YES! More, give is more!
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Dec 10, 2017 10:57
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Option C lang lebe die Revolution!
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Dec 10, 2017 11:41
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It's a lost cause but the Almoravids should have always been our friends! We failed them and they failed us but we're brothers in faith.
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Dec 10, 2017 12:13
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lmao if you think voting C is about doing "what's best for Al Andalus" also if you even care about that at this point.
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Dec 10, 2017 12:28
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Zakrelo posted:Also, how do the Mongol Empire, Mongolia, Yuan, and the Golden Horde all co-exist? The Mongol Empire was what was left of the Mongol Invasions in Europe in CK2. They started EU4 right next to the Russian principalities, but apparently they've migrated across Asia in response to Novgorodian expansion. This was them in 1444:  Mongolia is just one of the typical revolter tags in the steppes. I didn't think the Mongol Empire would literally conquer their way back to Mongolia, so I never bothered to rename them. The Yuan were also present at the start of EU4, as the descendants of Kublai Khan after the Yuan dynasty were overthrown by the Red Turbans. This was East Asia at the game's start:  And that last one isn't the Golden Horde, it's the Cuney Horde, which survived from CK2. I can't find a screenshot of them, but they started EU4 ruling parts of Transoxiana.
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Dec 10, 2017 12:28
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Thanks for the history lesson! The map sure has changed pretty radically after all this time.
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Dec 10, 2017 13:34
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Abu Rod demands apologies for this "pro-Almoravid anti-revolutionary" smear 
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Dec 10, 2017 15:03
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If you say so. Traitor.
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Dec 10, 2017 15:16
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Please. You both conspired to poison me and
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Dec 10, 2017 15:58
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We didn't overthrow the monarchy to have another one! Nothing personal.
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Dec 10, 2017 16:07
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C - Ibn Timu
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Dec 10, 2017 16:16
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Frionnel posted:We didn't overthrow the monachy to have another one! Nothing personal. Truly, the only answer here is Theocracy.
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Dec 10, 2017 17:15
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AJ_Impy posted:Truly, the only answer here is Theocracy. No sultan, no majlis, no kings, no Republican committees. Only God and his Chosen One.
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Dec 10, 2017 17:43
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Obviously not. An oligarchy of the most powerful nobles is the only way forward.
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Dec 10, 2017 17:48
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Clearly the only rational choice here would be to grant power to those proficient in its use, ie literally anyone before the majilis So yeah C
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Dec 10, 2017 18:07
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Do revolutionary republics still convert provinces?
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Dec 10, 2017 19:24
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Option C - Ibn Timu Bavaria's doing very well for itself, and we already experienced the whole "vizier attempts to become king" thing so we know to keep an eye out and a pike ready if anyone else tries it. Plus, what's the worst that could happen if the Cult of Reason were to border the Mahdi's realm? 
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Dec 10, 2017 20:55
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MaxieSatan posted:Plus, what's the worst that could happen if the Cult of Reason were to border the Mahdi's realm? lbr, the way that regime rolls, it wouldn't be any worse than otherwise.
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Dec 10, 2017 21:01
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 Vote closed!Ibn Timu obviously has overwhelming backing from the Majlis, but as he has no political experience beyond the military, his reign will start off a bit rocky and he'll very likely start relying on his army to perform duties and roles traditionally reserved for members of the Majlis. So we'll see how that plays out. The relative lack of support for the other candidates means they'll be unable to put up any real resistance, with Al-Farih probably assassinated whilst bathing or something, but Abi Rod having enough friends to escape beforehand and flee the country. Final tally: Option A - 9 - Soup du Jour, Sanzh, unwantedplatypus, MinistryofLard, Luhood, Slaan, Technowolf, Danny Glands, Mr_Autoshades. Option B - 3 - Mr.Morgenstern, Frionnel, Zakrelo. Option C - 42 - GunnerJ, HiHo ChiRho, Crazycryodude, Pakled, Super Jay Mann, Camoes, Ralepozozaxe, Tiberius Thyben, Vinny Possum, Lord Cyrahzax, RabidWeasel, Jeoh, QuoProQuid, Rodyle, NewMars, Erwin the German, ThatBasqueGuy, Freudian, Kangxi, ZearothK, paragon1, punched my v-card at camp, devildragon777, Aeromancia, Agean90, frankenfreak, kibaces, Captain Oblivious, Ikasuhito, The Bold Kobold, Talas, mcclay, Snipee, TheFlyingLlama, Mantis42, everydayfalls, Zikan, RagnarokZ, really queer Christmas, Lynneth, V. Illych L., MaxieSatan.
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Dec 10, 2017 21:48
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Well, all hail
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Dec 10, 2017 21:54
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This is fine.
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Dec 10, 2017 21:59
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Hashim posted:The relative lack of support for the other candidates means they'll be unable to put up any real resistance, with Al-Farih probably assassinated whilst bathing or something, but Abi Rod having enough friends to escape beforehand and flee the country. Just deserts for the traitors!
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Dec 10, 2017 21:59
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Lord Cyrahzax posted:Just deserts for the traitors! Ibn Timu was one of the traitors.
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Dec 10, 2017 22:18
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I was going to do a state of the world for 1800, but since there's only about 20 years to go, I'll just skip this one and include it in the epilogue for EU4. Here's a political map of the world in 1799, though: And here's a religious map:  Also added to the update.
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Dec 10, 2017 22:21
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I'll be curious to see just how Russianized Scandinavia is when Vicky comes around.
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Dec 10, 2017 22:25
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Asia is a god drat disaster
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Dec 10, 2017 22:27
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@attn Hashin: If you're gearing up to do V2, the Clausewitz map editor works with it (I think you may need to use an older version though), you only set factories, forts, cores and ownership through it. There's a POP editor tool you can use to change demographics by a percentage, targetting it through several parameters (like pop type, culture, cores present, etc) to tune them to whatever you like, which is exceptionally handy when it comes down to doing total conversions and will save you a lot of hours and energy. I really can't recommend POPAdjuster enough. As for OOB files, I don't think there's an easy way to do it, they are easily what annoyed me the most the last two times I converted a scenario for Vicky 2. Just make some regiment and navy templates and assign them. If you look at the files I used in the Gold Rules the World scenario, it's quite transparent. Feel free to hit me up on Steam if you want help with the conversion, same username.
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Dec 10, 2017 22:49
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Can't wait for the military dictatorship. Also, east Asia is a gently caress. e: Holy poo poo Morocco has a shitload of colonies.
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Dec 10, 2017 22:51
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Jeoh posted:e: Holy poo poo Morocco has a shitload of colonies. Yeah, Morocco is essentially the Spain of this timeline, with some dashes of UK thrown in like Moroccan Raj and Moroccan Australia.
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Not that it matters, but I voted for A. Also, Serbia's Cathar? I vaguely remember that, but had completely forgotten. Also, still sad about Waono.
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Man, who we really should've teamed up with is Crusader Egypt. Having a counterbalance like that in Africa might've been very helpful more than a few times
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