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farraday
Jan 10, 2007

Lower those eyebrows, young man. And the other one.

Quorum posted:

The DNC's biggest resource isn't their money, it's their people. Organizers, sure, but especially facilitators-- the kind of people who can grease wheels and make happen what organizers need to happen, locally. Ready-made google docs for the kind of headache-inducing activist group herding we saw stories about in Virginia.

Yeah but that poo poo costs money and they have to do it in hundreds of races 11 months from now.

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skylined!
Apr 6, 2012

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

TGLT posted:

I can for you! They're racist as poo poo!

lol awesome

man it sure is cool to be racist, yep

mango sentinel
Jan 5, 2001

by sebmojo

Cervix-A-Lot posted:

You guys sound retarded when you say, "thank you black people."

Ableist slur and calling us race traitors, someone is up too late.

Lyndon LaRouche
Sep 5, 2006

by Azathoth

tsa posted:

Millennials lean left because of Obama, not GWB. Most millennials were not politically aware during the Bush years and the older millennials tend more conservative than younger.

Where the hell do we even draw the line for Millennials? By many definitions, my almost 34-year old self is Millennial. This means I am old enough to have become politically aware right at the end of Clinton and the beginning of Dubya. I'm probably way outside the mean considering I was calling myself a socialist at about the time I got my driver's license, but Dubya and his administration firmly planted me on the left side of politics for the rest of my life.

Despera
Jun 6, 2011

tsa posted:

Millennials lean left because of Obama, not GWB. Most millennials were not politically aware during the Bush years and the older millennials tend more conservative than younger.

People who were roughly in high school during the aughts remember the "lol whoops wmds" and if they dont they sure as hell remember the great recession which was far and away the most important event in their lifetime.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



teen witch posted:

Where’s that article with the alt right women complaining about misogyny?

Like I cannot get how white women thing white supremacy is some sort of rising tide while they’re strapped with concrete shoes to the bottom of the sea with the rest of us.

Unfortunately a lot of white women just want to be equal with white men, including all the white privilege that goes with it

DaveWoo
Aug 14, 2004

Fun Shoe

tsa posted:

Millennials lean left because of Obama, not GWB. Most millennials were not politically aware during the Bush years and the older millennials tend more conservative than younger.

I'd say it's a combination of W being terrible and Obama being pretty decent in comparison. Add in Trump's shitshow of a presidency, and you've got an entire generation of people who only remember lovely Republican presidents and good Democratic ones.

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

Cervix-A-Lot posted:

You guys sound retarded when you say, "thank you black people."

Eat my rear end

punishedkissinger
Sep 20, 2017

this centrist lib who called me racist for saying white voters are racist is calling me a coward for not agreeing to a public debate with him

what the gently caress is wrong with white men in this country

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





paperwind posted:

Where the hell do we even draw the line for Millennials? By many definitions, my almost 34-year old self is Millennial. This means I am old enough to have become politically aware right at the end of Clinton and the beginning of Dubya. I'm probably way outside the mean considering I was calling myself a socialist at about the time I got my driver's license, but Dubya and his administration firmly planted me on the left side of politics for the rest of my life.

The fact that they try to group people who were remotely conscious for 9/11 and even 2008 with the rest of the crew is really silly.

LITERALLY MY FETISH
Nov 11, 2010


Raise Chris Coons' taxes so that we can have Medicare for All.

Despera posted:

People who were roughly in high school during the aughts remember the "lol whoops wmds" and if they dont they sure as hell remember the great recession which was far and away the most important event in their lifetime.

9/11 happened in the first few months of my freshmen year of high school, and as a member of the AP gov class I later helped write a full page spread for the school paper about why dubya was a dumb dumb. I am the actual target demographic for "what effect did bush's presidency have" and the effect is "gently caress all republicans, they are evil to the core."

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



kidkissinger posted:

this centrist lib who called me racist for saying white voters are racist is calling me a coward for not agreeing to a public debate with him

what the gently caress is wrong with white men in this country

White supremacy is one hell of a drug

teen witch
Oct 9, 2012

Koalas March posted:

Unfortunately a lot of white women just want to be equal with white men, including all the white privilege that goes with it

I just don’t get how it’s clear as loving day that white supremacy does not give an iota of poo poo towards the welfare of women outside of them being ambulatory wombs. Like it’s hard to take a voting block seriously when they continuously support the candidates that would rather see them behind a stove than an office desk. Even as a mixed race gal like, how do you not have that internal signal of “this person loving hates my existence, they can die in a ditch”?

Xerzes
May 16, 2012


Cervix-A-Lot posted:

You guys sound retarded when you say, "thank you black people."

Get out.

BlackIronHeart
Aug 2, 2004

PROCEED

tsa posted:

Millennials lean left because of Obama, not GWB. Most millennials were not politically aware during the Bush years and the older millennials tend more conservative than younger.

I just turned 35 and I'm technically a Millenial according to some. I was 18 when 9/11 happened and I got to watch family members and friends from high school get shipped off to Afghanistan and Iraq. I will never vote for a Republican for as long as I live.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

Internet Explorer posted:

The fact that they try to group people who were remotely conscious for 9/11 and even 2008 with the rest of the crew is really silly.

I've gone with the rule If you can't remember where you were when the Berlin Wall fell, but can for 9/11, you're a millenial

Or You're a millennial if you ever used AIM

Despera
Jun 6, 2011

LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:

9/11 happened in the first few months of my freshmen year of high school, and as a member of the AP gov class I later helped write a full page spread for the school paper about why dubya was a dumb dumb. I am the actual target demographic for "what effect did bush's presidency have" and the effect is "gently caress all republicans, they are evil to the core."

I was in high school and the only person in the class in the "Lets give the weapons inspectors some time" position. Rest were invade invade invade.

Bhaal
Jul 13, 2001
I ain't going down alone
Dr. Infant, MD
Thank you AA voters, seriously we know you don't necessarily do it for us but still want to recognize we benefit from you overcoming and doing the damned hard but decent thing time and time again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbNIwraYKBc

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





teen witch posted:

I just don’t get how it’s clear as loving day that white supremacy does not give an iota of poo poo towards the welfare of women outside of them being ambulatory wombs. Like it’s hard to take a voting block seriously when they continuously support the candidates that would rather see them behind a stove than an office desk. Even as a mixed race gal like, how do you not have that internal signal of “this person loving hates my existence, they can die in a ditch”?

Because they might be women and 2nd class citizens, but there's someone below them to punch, just like any other group that punches down.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

BlackIronHeart posted:

I just turned 35 and I'm technically a Millenial according to some. I was 18 when 9/11 happened and I got to watch family members and friends from high school get shipped off to Afghanistan and Iraq. I will never vote for a Republican for as long as I live.

Same but a few years younger.

axeil
Feb 14, 2006

paperwind posted:

Where the hell do we even draw the line for Millennials? By many definitions, my almost 34-year old self is Millennial. This means I am old enough to have become politically aware right at the end of Clinton and the beginning of Dubya. I'm probably way outside the mean considering I was calling myself a socialist at about the time I got my driver's license, but Dubya and his administration firmly planted me on the left side of politics for the rest of my life.

Yeah I have no clue. There's definitely a difference between older millenials (the ones who remember 9/11 or the 2000 florida clusterfuck) and younger millenials where instead it's the election of obama that's their first real political memory.

the older groups seems to be much more pro-Dem and also more willing to do realpolitik with their candidates than the younger ones.

TARDISman
Oct 28, 2011



Internet Explorer posted:

The fact that they try to group people who were remotely conscious for 9/11 and even 2008 with the rest of the crew is really silly.

Yeah, some of my coworkers just barely qualify as millennials and they were literally 2 years old when 9/11 happened. I mean, I was 11 but I was pretty loving aware of what was going on, especially when we spent the next 3-4 years traveling everywhere by car instead of plane.

EDIT: The primary difference I've noticed is the millennials in our mid to late 20s are all very politically conscious and all freaked out when Franken visited our store, and the teens were basically "uhhh... who's that." Like... the one who's the most politically active and actually wants to work in politics and went to the Women's March and everything has no idea who Warren is and it hurts my brain.

TARDISman fucked around with this message at 07:10 on Dec 13, 2017

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

kidkissinger posted:

this centrist lib who called me racist for saying white voters are racist is calling me a coward for not agreeing to a public debate with him

what the gently caress is wrong with white men in this country

We dumb as all hell, sorry about that.

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

We're going to make it, goons. We're going to get through the long night together.

farraday
Jan 10, 2007

Lower those eyebrows, young man. And the other one.

Internet Explorer posted:

The fact that they try to group people who were remotely conscious for 9/11 and even 2008 with the rest of the crew is really silly.

The post millennial generation hasn't really received a name yet but it probably includes anyone turning 18 today unless a big obvious dividing line comes up soon we all decide is the "true" start.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



teen witch posted:

I just don’t get how it’s clear as loving day that white supremacy does not give an iota of poo poo towards the welfare of women outside of them being ambulatory wombs. Like it’s hard to take a voting block seriously when they continuously support the candidates that would rather see them behind a stove than an office desk. Even as a mixed race gal like, how do you not have that internal signal of “this person loving hates my existence, they can die in a ditch”?

The only explanation I have is that it must
be a combination of Christian brain washing, internalized misogyny, and racism.

skylined!
Apr 6, 2012

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

BlackIronHeart posted:

I just turned 35 and I'm technically a Millenial according to some. I was 18 when 9/11 happened and I got to watch family members and friends from high school get shipped off to Afghanistan and Iraq. I will never vote for a Republican for as long as I live.

same; 32; two high school friends enlisted and died in a year; same

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010
Millennials are 37-35 to 21-19 today depending on how you slice it.

Younger than that is I generation.

Carlosologist
Oct 13, 2013

Revelry in the Dark

there really needs to be a different term for kids who are coming of age next year. I mean, potential voters will have been born in 2000 by next November, and the range increases to 2002 by 2020. Post-milennial maybe? Something catchy to go with the Great Recession, since it was an event that shaped the world they grew up in from 2009-2020?

I guess I'm a millennial, since I was really young but I have a clear memory of 9/11

LITERALLY MY FETISH
Nov 11, 2010


Raise Chris Coons' taxes so that we can have Medicare for All.

Despera posted:

I was in high school and the only person in the class in the "Lets give the weapons inspectors some time" position. Rest were invade invade invade.

A lot of my classmates were pretty conservative, but after going through all of that they either stopped talking about it or became hardcore democrats.

kidkissinger posted:

this centrist lib who called me racist for saying white voters are racist is calling me a coward for not agreeing to a public debate with him

what the gently caress is wrong with white men in this country

Can we agree that anyone who uses "Debate me" as an argument should get a curveball to the nuts? (because women don't do it)

CAPS LOCK BROKEN
Feb 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

teen witch posted:

Where’s that article with the alt right women complaining about misogyny?

Like I cannot get how white women thing white supremacy is some sort of rising tide while they’re strapped with concrete shoes to the bottom of the sea with the rest of us.

lol if you think white women have ever had the best interests of poc/woc in mind

skylined!
Apr 6, 2012

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

farraday posted:

The post millennial generation hasn't really received a name yet but it probably includes anyone turning 18 today unless a big obvious dividing line comes up soon we all decide is the "true" start.

gen z is real and is good but will not be my friend on facebook

Phobic Nest
Oct 2, 2013

You Are My Sunshine

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

farraday posted:

The post millennial generation hasn't really received a name yet but it probably includes anyone turning 18 today unless a big obvious dividing line comes up soon we all decide is the "true" start.

I keep saying the dividing line was born before or after 9/11.

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel
I don't remember the Berlin Wall or the USSR, but remember 9/11. First political memory is Clinton winning in 1996. Or GHW Bush a hockey card.

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

I'm a medium millenial, I guess? I was born in 91. I was a lot more well read and up to date on current issues than most other kids (being a weird nerd), and if I ever entertained a conservative thought the Bush era scared my rear end straight. I was a socialist by the time I was in highschool.

Grammarchist
Jan 28, 2013

The people just now aging into the electorate kinda had me worried because they never really knew Bush II and seemed susceptible to Trump's bullshit last year. After 2017 though, I can't imagine going from Obama to Trump is any easier for them than it has been for my elder millennial rear end.

mango sentinel
Jan 5, 2001

by sebmojo
Post-millennial is the YouTube Generation.

Despera
Jun 6, 2011
First political memory was liking "Bush" over "Clinton" because I knew what a bush was.

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Sanguinia
Jan 1, 2012

~Everybody wants to be a cat~
~Because a cat's the only cat~
~Who knows where its at~

dbukalski posted:

your right. He is really a sensible man with perspective. This is when he became presidential. the pivot is real

I'm not really sure how you got "he's a sensible man and doing a presidential pivot," out of me saying he has the most important job in the world but may well not give the smallest gently caress about the consequences of his actions one way or the other. But whatever, it's not really relevant whether he wrote the tweet, nor is it really relevant what the motives behind the evil poo poo he does are I suppose. Tonight he lost big and that's all that's relevant.

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