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What we need is a starship made up out of several saucers linked together by walkways or plasma tubing or something.
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evilmiera posted:What we need is a starship made up out of several saucers linked together by walkways or plasma tubing or something. http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Jupiter_Station 
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Powered Descent posted:
Close, but the saucers need to be further apart and not just lined up straight, also it needs to be able to move. Edit: Imagine a tangle of jellyfish and that's about what I'm going for.
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Dec 11, 2017 22:21
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TheScott2K posted:First Contact really feels like the beginning of them missing the point.
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Dec 11, 2017 22:48
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Binary Badger posted:Their shuttlecraft only have one band, so..? 
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Dec 11, 2017 22:54
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Philthy posted:Or the middle and bottom blow out and they're stuck doing loops until someone can fix the other two. The middle and top were wrecked in the Pilot and it seemed that the ship was still capable of quantum drive, they just mentioned needing some time to get the lower drive back up and running.
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Dec 12, 2017 00:24
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I really don't like the way the shuttles look in this show and I can't put my finger on why.
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Dec 12, 2017 00:26
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The ship design is a bit weird, kind of evoking a sea creature. I think it would have looked better with some kind of ovoid axial ring or rings so it looked more like recent renditions of the Alcubierre drive.
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So did Klyden fertilize the egg? Because if he didn't then he should've had no loving say in what to do with the baby.
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Paradoxish posted:I really don't like the way the shuttles look in this show and I can't put my finger on why. I don't like it either when I see it in a still like that. The weirdly square bits of it just don't look right. And the two engines look like the top one isn't even a part of the ship.
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WHY BONER NOW posted:So did Klyden fertilize the egg? Because if he didn't then he should've had no loving say in what to do with the baby. Cool we have an expert in Mockan law and culture itt
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R-Type posted:The ship design is a bit weird, kind of evoking a sea creature. I think it would have looked better with some kind of ovoid axial ring or rings so it looked more like recent renditions of the Alcubierre drive. Yes make it less unique and more like other ships that have been designed before.
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Dec 12, 2017 01:18
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Paradoxish posted:I really don't like the way the shuttles look in this show and I can't put my finger on why. The thing looks like an electric razor or trimmer. I love the look of the big Orville ships but the shuttle is just kind of ugly.
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Dec 12, 2017 03:03
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Paradoxish posted:I really don't like the way the shuttles look in this show and I can't put my finger on why. Can't quickly tell which way it's facing. It looks a bit like either end could be the "front".
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Dec 12, 2017 06:33
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The front has the big window in it.
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Dec 12, 2017 06:52
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Do any of the interior sets with windows match up with specific areas on the ship? Like there's the big curved hallway lined with windows, all crew quarters have similar windows, but it's hard to place where things are on the ship model. Or, in classic scify tradition, is there little to no thought put into that?
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Dec 12, 2017 06:55
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almost all of the windows show in trek line up with windows on the exterior.
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Yeah I mean, you'll probably have trouble pointing to one specific window on the model and being like "that's so-and-so quarters" but no moreso than picking out one specific office from the exterior of a decent skyscraper.
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There are also a lot of specific windows that we are shown where they are in trek. Ten-Forward and the bridge ceiling bubble are the obvious ones on TNG. DS9 has the promenade windows.
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edit: I like both this show and ST:D, but I agree that the latter is less "Trek" in spirit than Orville, which is surprising. I am also quite surprised at how much critics dislike Orville, although the veering between comedy and drama critcism is valid enough. Paradoxish posted:I really don't like the way the shuttles look in this show and I can't put my finger on why. It looks like an ergonomic mouse designed by somebody who had never seen hands. Pompous Rhombus fucked around with this message at 07:48 on Dec 12, 2017 |
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Dec 12, 2017 07:44
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The quantity of spec-sheet benchmarking and extrapolation of ship dimensions based on screenshots & dialogue means The Orville show is good sci-fi. Congrats everyone. We have another show to cling to.
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Baronjutter posted:Do any of the interior sets with windows match up with specific areas on the ship? Like there's the big curved hallway lined with windows, all crew quarters have similar windows, but it's hard to place where things are on the ship model. Or, in classic scify tradition, is there little to no thought put into that? This is one thing I've been watching out for out of curiosity since the show started and I actually think its laid out really well, and I think I have a good idea where things are taking place in the key locations. This is the nerdiest post I've ever made in my life but... oh well.  Its so far from what I can tell 100% consistent in those areas. The hallway wraps around, which is why in the long shot its very straight, while in the shot where Ed waves at the guy who's name he can't remember its highly curved from both points of view because they're walking right at the front. Theres an entrance on either side to the stairwell which leads to the upstairs that has the bridge, conference room, and captains office. The other glass area contains the mess hall/bar at the very rear of the ship, which you can tell by the stars moving outside it when its in shot. That glassed in area does wrap around much longer than the bar, however whats in that space they haven't shown us. So far though, from what I've been able to tell the whole thing feels very thought out, which is why I feel they sat down with all the designers and really thought this ship out, inside and out.
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Dec 12, 2017 13:01
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I'd assume crew quarters and other recreation would share a deck with the bar so maybe those windows are officers quarters.
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Seth is not above making a blueprint image for The Orville. I'm certain it will come with something like a blu-ray.
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Speaking about the size, I came across this which looks pretty definitive for its size, and it looks just slightly smaller than voyager, which sounds about right. Also I think its neat to see theres apparently a giant greenhouse of some kind next to the holodeck which we haven't seen yet. I'm hoping that makes an appearance in s2, it looks like it could be neat. 
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Dec 13, 2017 04:15
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That looks way the gently caress more reasonable than the size chart I posted.
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Just finished watching both seasons of The Orville and Star Trek Discovery, and man it's like night and day I don't think Star Trek has to be light and tone, but STD constantly feels like watching someone try to fit a square peg through a round hole. None of the characters are that memorable or likable (except for Michael's roommate, and the fact that she's the only member of the crew who isn't an rear end in a top hat is treated like a joke), and even when the season picks up in the second half it still just feels like a less good version of The Expanse. I think The Orville does a better job of having a likable cast of distinct characters, and taps into Star Trek's core appeal more effectively. Star Trek has always been built around discovery and most attempts to turn it into a generic sci-fi action franchise just come off as stiff and derivative. I'm not going to say that Orville is must-see TV but it manages to be a light, thoughtful sci-fi series with a message that isn't centered around blowing poo poo up, and that's something I could really use in 2017.
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McSpanky posted:Half the time I think "cheap" is code for "not covered in 500 layers of useless greebles and shadowy mood lightings that pops on my ultra 10K 4D OLE". A clean smooth evenly-lit design -- in other words, something you'd actually want to live and work in -- isn't in vogue right now. A bit late, but I totally agree. I think the sets look fine, but the bright flat lighting doesn't help. The Alara holodeck episode has a long sequence where the sets are dark and orange, and if that was the usual look for the show then I don't think anyone would be complaining about 'cheap' sets.
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Years ago I used to know a guy who was very into gender politics and one of the things he used to talk about was how phallic many structures designed by men were; towers, skyscrapers, that sort of thing, and very few were shaped like the female genitals. But he also talked about rockets, which I thought was absurd - because how on earth could you make a spaceship in the shape of a vagina? How would that even work?
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Tom Guycot posted:Speaking about the size, I came across this which looks pretty definitive for its size, and it looks just slightly smaller than voyager, which sounds about right. Also I think its neat to see theres apparently a giant greenhouse of some kind next to the holodeck which we haven't seen yet. I'm hoping that makes an appearance in s2, it looks like it could be neat. Now I really want an Orville Technical Manual.
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From above, the Orville's aft section looks like a sideways 
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Unkempt posted:Years ago I used to know a guy who was very into gender politics and one of the things he used to talk about was how phallic many structures designed by men were; towers, skyscrapers, that sort of thing, and very few were shaped like the female genitals. But he also talked about rockets, which I thought was absurd - because how on earth could you make a spaceship in the shape of a vagina? How would that even work? The mother ship in Octavia Butler's Dawn is explicitly womb-like, in line with the themes of the story (as far as I remember from reading it in a 101 class 20 years back) and that's probably been done a bunch.
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Unkempt posted:Years ago I used to know a guy who was very into gender politics and one of the things he used to talk about was how phallic many structures designed by men were; towers, skyscrapers, that sort of thing, and very few were shaped like the female genitals. But he also talked about rockets, which I thought was absurd - because how on earth could you make a spaceship in the shape of a vagina? How would that even work? Once you see it... 
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1000 Brown M and Ms posted:A bit late, but I totally agree. I think the sets look fine, but the bright flat lighting doesn't help. the enterprise D looked awful with yellow-orange lighting in generations the bright white lights are a key part of the atmosphere of the ship imo
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Dec 13, 2017 21:25
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Chop Sunni posted:The mother ship in Octavia Butler's Dawn is explicitly womb-like, in line with the themes of the story (as far as I remember from reading it in a 101 class 20 years back) and that's probably been done a bunch.  
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Dec 13, 2017 22:50
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It’s a banana ship. Enough said.
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Dec 14, 2017 03:01
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I'm so glad Seth slept in 10 minutes too late on 9/11
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Looks like Disney owns this show now
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Dec 14, 2017 14:27
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Looks like Disney owns this show now I believe the deal only covers the film side of Fox.
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Mokinokaro posted:I believe the deal only covers the film side of Fox. Transaction to include 21st Century Fox’s film and television studios, cable entertainment networks and international TV businesses
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