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Best Bi Geek Squid
Mar 25, 2016
While getting used to fedora, I remembered it by "do not gently caress." because linux

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qhat
Jul 6, 2015


Notorious b.s.d. posted:

it's so much worse than it sounds. the system was called 'nepomuk'
  • mysql was not the primary data store. i have no idea what mysql was actually doing, because

  • all the data, and all client communication, was via RDF. yes, that RDF. "semantic web" RDF. (now you see how we got to ontologies, huh?)

  • the actual core database was a thing you have never heard of: https://virtuoso.openlinksw.com/


    i had never heard of virtuoso, either, until it started eating 100% of cpu on my desktop for some reason

  • at some point they rewrote nepomuk to avoid the virtuoso dependency. but they rewrote it in java. which, in the early 2010s, had become the victim of a FUD campaign to purge it from linux desktops. so the working java version was never deployed by any distribution i know of, in favor of the totally broken C++/mysql/virtuoso disaster.

  • there was no stable version until kde 4.11. nepomuk was removed entirely in 4.13. kde went six years without a working desktop search, and when it was finally "finished," it barely lasted six months.

Rofl. At least I'm glad someone found a single use case for the semantic Web though.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

now UI SDKs are another systems programming task. who are they gonna recruit? browser developers?

embedded people

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

hobbesmaster posted:

embedded people

i'd have to dig to find it, but there is a gdc presentation about a game company who tried moving their tools to a web-based platform and the problems that resulted from it. ending spoiler: they dumped the web stuff and went back to native apps made with qt

there are still plenty of applications which aren't suited to being run in a browser

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

almost all Qt development openings I've seen are for embedded linux. don't even need to be running a window manager there

Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill

Generic Monk posted:

what is dnf meant to stand for because whenever i see it i can only think of 'duke nukem forever' or 'did not finish', the latter of which may be appropriate in the context of linux on the desktop

it’s did not finish

it didn’t finish because you killed it

you killed it because you forgot the -C and then it was going to spend literally 5 minutes updating caches before it would do your trivial query

qhat
Jul 6, 2015


hobbesmaster posted:

almost all Qt development openings I've seen are for embedded linux. don't even need to be running a window manager there

My company has an embedded system running Windows with the main app using some custom-built UI toolkit using DirectX and doing deep learning on the CPU.

I'm not actually kidding.

qhat fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Dec 11, 2017

sb hermit
Dec 13, 2016





qhat posted:

My company has an embedded system running Windows with the main app using some custom-built UI toolkit using DirectX and doing deep learning on the CPU.

I'm not actually kidding.

if it works, ship it

qhat
Jul 6, 2015


If only we could find some kind of hardware that is specialised for operations on matrices, I wonder if something like that exists.. hm, oh well.

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

qhat posted:

If only we could find some kind of hardware that is specialised for operations on matrices, I wonder if something like that exists.. hm, oh well.

but that poo poo's busy drawing some buttons and fonts

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

i was bitching about it earlier but man is parallel good at auto escaping. it just works, no quoting, no -print0

Poopernickel
Oct 28, 2005

electricity bad
Fun Shoe
its short for dank nugs, fedora

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

now UI SDKs are another systems programming task. who are they gonna recruit? browser developers?

no wonder they have a JavaScript in the window manager

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

The_Franz posted:

i'd have to dig to find it, but there is a gdc presentation about a game company who tried moving their tools to a web-based platform and the problems that resulted from it. ending spoiler: they dumped the web stuff and went back to native apps made with qt

there are still plenty of applications which aren't suited to being run in a browser

please find this, I wan to have it handy to shove in peoples faces

pseudorandom name
May 6, 2007

https://www.gdcvault.com/play/1024465/Insomniac-s-Web-Tools-A

bssoil
Mar 21, 2004

Generic Monk posted:

what is dnf meant to stand for because whenever i see it i can only think of 'duke nukem forever' or 'did not finish', the latter of which may be appropriate in the context of linux on the desktop

dinf

which fedora should I put on my fancy xps (ie, which version is most likely to work out o the box)?

OldAlias
Nov 2, 2013

the latest one? I haven’t noticed anything breaking, try it on a live USB or something if you’re concerned

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






bssoil posted:

dinf

which fedora should I put on my fancy xps (ie, which version is most likely to work out o the box)?

workstation 27

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

thebigcow posted:

Is there really nothing in Gnome 3 like the systray in Windows? Like, I need to keep Transmission running on a desktop and have to look at the icon every time I mash alt+tab?

Gnome removed it in 3.26, which is loving stupid poo poo. At least there's topicons which works great.
(Configure it in tweaks to make the icons stick to the right and not the center.)

It's still stupid loving bullshit that they removed it. It wasn't in the way, it worked fine, and there was no reason to remove it other than "lol Gnome."

carry on then
Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

(and can't post for 10 years!)


"more ui innovation in the web space"

this statement frustrates me on multiple levels

Best Bi Geek Squid
Mar 25, 2016
trying out MATE for the first time. it...sure seems like gnome 2

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost

eschaton posted:

no wonder they have a JavaScript in the window manager

and css in the widget set

Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

Spinyahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Doctor Rope
js in the streets, css in the sheets

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Best Bi Geek Squid posted:

trying out MATE for the first time. it...sure seems like gnome 2

It's a fork so yea

Best Bi Geek Squid
Mar 25, 2016

spankmeister posted:

It's a fork so yea

yeah its just kind of a dead dove situation

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

finally getting around to putting fedora on my laptop evening 1: something wrong with efi i think. there's a guy that blogged about it on his xps 13 that seems like it has identical bios settings, so ill try that tomorrow. not going to do this again without sitting in front of another computer.

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

also its 8 screws to take the top off, 3 to remove the caddy, 4 to remove the drive from the caddy vs 1+4 from the old thinkpad

sb hermit
Dec 13, 2016





hifi posted:

finally getting around to putting fedora on my laptop evening 1: something wrong with efi i think. there's a guy that blogged about it on his xps 13 that seems like it has identical bios settings, so ill try that tomorrow. not going to do this again without sitting in front of another computer.

:allears:

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

if your computer is larger than a pack of cards Linux belongs in a vm

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde

hobbesmaster posted:

Linux belongs in a museum

Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007

hifi posted:

also its 8 screws to take the top off, 3 to remove the caddy, 4 to remove the drive from the caddy vs 1+4 from the old thinkpad

what caddy

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

hobbesmaster posted:

if your computer is larger than a pack of cards Linux belongs in a vm

if your computer is smaller than a pack of cards it should be running iOS

Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007

ah yes, let me boot up my iphone based firewall

Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill
iOS for phones, IOS for network boxes

Perplx
Jun 26, 2004


Best viewed on Orgasma Plasma
Lipstick Apathy
more like vyos

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

Tankakern posted:

what caddy

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008


the kernel is good

BobHoward
Feb 13, 2012

The only thing white people deserve is a bullet to their empty skull

hobbesmaster posted:

the kernel is good

there's a zardoz joke in here somewhere but i'm not creative enough to think of a good one

pseudorandom name
May 6, 2007

the kernel is good, it shoots death

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Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine
THE USERLAND IS EVIL

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