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Sarsapariller posted:I kind of doubt that anyone still working there is posting rabidly pro-SC propaganda unless they're literally being paid to do so. Well if you say so man... Also, regarding Crytek lawsuit... I really really wish I had Tippis’s slow zooming Parpcorn image link handy. Can anybody drop that in please? If it’s not in the pages ahead?  (Thanks DapperDon!) G0RF fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Dec 13, 2017 |
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TheAgent posted:who wants to go drinking in LA with me when they shut down the CIG office in santa monica lol Shame they're not on 3rd street anymore the promenade is lovely this time of year. I mean when you can actually breath outside without a face mask.
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Tippis posted:How will a bank react to the news that the pledge offered by their client was not actually fully the client's to pledge, I wonder… How will UK authorities react to being asked for a tax break based on something legally dubious.
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TheAgent posted:they are looking for tens of millions of dollars and a full stop to the project Hey, that's CIG business model. No progress yet looking for more millions.
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VictorianQueerLit posted:samfreez saying that poo poo about Amazon coming to the rescue is just raw desperation. I could not agree more. Jeff Bezos did not get to where he is by playing Captain Save-A-Ho to an upstart gaming company that has zero titles released and is now being accused of theft. Expect Amazon to take the official stance of "Chris Who?"
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Bofast posted:Why would cultists be playing a real game, though? Ha good point. It's mostly for fun. No one has ever responded.
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Morningwoodpecker posted:How will UK authorities react to being asked for a tax break based on something legally dubious. I think that's how you become a freemason.
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Posting from the past big nipples big life posted:imagine being tarkaroshe I wonder if he has to put tape over his nipples so they don't start bleeding as he's furiously pounding away at his keyboard or is he more of a blob type that just goes shirtless all the time. probably more efficient that way
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G0RF posted:Well if you say so man... Here you go.
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Virtual Captain posted:CryEngine choice never seems to stop paying dividends... in comedy gold.
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DapperDon posted:I could not agree more. Jeff Bezos did not get to where he is by playing Captain Save-A-Ho to an upstart gaming company that has zero titles released and is now being accused of theft. Expect Amazon to take the official stance of "Chris Who?" I'm not privy to these kinds of details, but I'm betting that since a lot of this relates to the Lumberyard switch in the first place, Amazon is especially ill-inclined to offer support I obviously can't know for sure, of course
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Golli posted:Amazon will likely turn on CIG as well, to head off any allegations of collusion in the copyright infringement. Especially if CIG misrepresented their agreement with Crytek to Amazon during their negotiations. So at worst it can evolve on a cryteck + amazon + coutts chasing CIG's rear end.
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XK posted:Any claim that they're using Lumberyard instead of CryEngine isn't worth poo poo. Amazon isn't going to help them here. amazon might demand a poo poo load of money for a lumberyard license with no branding requirement so cig can slap a cryengine logo on it to keep crytek happy.
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Ayn Marx posted:I am a CIG employee. Ask me Anything Why are you glad about the tragic fate of a backer's family
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Tippis posted:How will a bank react to the news that the pledge offered by their client was not actually fully the client's to pledge, I wonder… Most loan agreements have clauses allowing the entire loan to immediately fall due if this happens. Coutts are going to be watching this very carefully, and CIG might well go down solely by Coutts calling their loan in. Expect any other defendants to file quickly if their claims are civil. They're all officially on notice that their money might get drained by the other cases.
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Slow_Moe posted:Legally speaking, how much is Lumberyard Cryengine? Be cause if Crytek gets an injunction, CIG would have to switch engines, assuming they don't just keel over and die. …except maybe for that whole “revealing source code” bugsmashers bit. Especially since the Lunberyard version they're using is so old that it's still pure CryEngine. quote:Would that injunction count against Lumberyard? Tippis fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Dec 13, 2017 |
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XK posted:I'm too lazy, and somebody else probably has more convenience to doing it. Can be masked fairly easily--you could write a function that says if hourly funding drops below $2500, buy a random amount of ships, between 15-25. The resulting amount would not run afoul of Binford numbers. I may be giving people too much credit, our guest speaker in our forensic IT class found that when audits kick in at $5k, people often get caught by the large number of transactions that were $4900 or $4500. There is technique used for detecting data falsification which may be relevant--there have been a few psychology studies where people crunched the numbers in light of sample size and found that the findings would require something like 17.5 people to say yes in a survey or whatever. This is a strong indication that the numbers were fabricated. In CIG's case, you'd want to be looking at exact dollar amounts and ensuring they fit neatly with ships and the number of ships added to the fleet. The dollar amount is tricky because you have to work out the various exchange rates and taxes for non-US purchases, as well as rounding (small discrepancies could be ascribed to rounding up to the nearest buck). This would take a lot of work to be able to evaluate, but it would also significantly raise the bar for what is required to make legit-looking results--are the vast majority of purchases made in US currency, even at 5 AM? Do amounts displayed match a combination of currencies? Has behavior been consistent throughout funding (what if amounts were 3x less likely to match up starting April 17th, 2016, indicating a trend change) Is VAT reflected in the amounts shown?
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TheAgent posted:how is this not on every fuckin gaming site right now MMORPG.com: Crytek Files Copyright Infringement Suit Against Roberts Space Industries & Cloud Imperium Games Get to work Joe Blobber.
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Sarsapariller posted:Reminds me of the suit Zenimax filed against John Carmack, saying he took ideas developed while working for them when he went over to Oculus. I think Oculus lost that to the tune of $500 millo, not that it stopped them. Sandi already said Chris wouldn’t sell for $2 billion, and that was $100 million dollars and 200 broken promises ago. Imagine how much more the enterprise has increased in value since then.
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XK posted:Any claim that they're using Lumberyard instead of CryEngine isn't worth poo poo. Amazon isn't going to help them here. That one will take any high school level programmer all of 15 mins to prove as being bullshit. I don't believe they will even try that one. ----------------
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Tippis posted:…unless the financials are made public as part of the whole thing, and they learn what actually happened to their money (most notably that Crytek's payday amounts to three-fiddy and a coffee machine). OK, this is a glimmer of hope I have within me now
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TheAgent posted:this also carries really bad repercussions, as the collateral they were owed is now under question Could Coutts call in the loan?
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TheAgent posted:holy gently caress at them not providing code fixes and improvements back to crytek as part of their agreement Coke is a hell of a drug. "Do you know who I am? JUST DO IT!"
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Slow_Moe posted:Legally speaking, how much is Lumberyard Cryengine? Be cause if Crytek gets an injunction, CIG would have to switch engines, assuming they don't just keel over and die. If any asset has a single trace of CryEngine or CryTek technology, or was built or modified using those technologies, those go as well. CIG would be looking at starting from complete scratch, Lumberyard or no.
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What CryTek alleges and what the facts are could very well be two different worlds here. CryTek is alleging breach of contract, insomuch that infringement on IP is a consequence hereto. CryTek also had to make its engineers available for corroboration, which might have been hard to do with all of the financial troubles they've encumbered: http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2017-12-11-former-employee-sues-crytek-istanbul https://www.pcgamesn.com/crytek-wage-crisis-black-sea-studio http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/pc/crytek-financial-troubles/1/ https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/5wzlf2/crytek_employee_here_havent_been_paid_in_2017/ https://www.kitguru.net/gaming/matthew-wilson/source-crytek-is-sinking-wages-are-unpaid-talent-leaving-on-a-daily-basis/ etc. They, themselves, could have breached. This is not clear yet. Moreover, the suit itself alleges that CIG halted use of CryTek engine in 2016 (star engine in play), yet they want to lay claim to a breach when engaging Faceware in 2017. They also allege breach for SQ42, yet LumberYard is used for its development. At worst: I see a settelement since it's completely obvious this is nothing more than a cash grab. At best: a jury trial in CA was requested so good luck to Cry in trying to prove preponderance
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Virtual Captain posted:Star Citizen: Finally Fetched the Legal Documents God...the memories... But in light of the warlord finally calling it, I figure this one's a bit more appropriate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BV7rc9CJvc
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CrazyLoon posted:Okay, I sorta missed out on this one - who or what is Coutts? Private London bank that offered a payday loan secured on the assets of SQ42 against a tax refund from the UK Government. Golli posted:Crytek needs money + Crytek feels ripped off Oh, their costs are going to be interesting, but this is mostly based on paper. There are indications that Crytek wants it to go to trial, but they're going to meet and discuss the terms of the filing at some point, and that's going to be where the numbers get talked. I tend to dampen expectations somewhat, because the hyperbole gets a bit fever-pitch. Note that it's the plaintiff that agrees to any settlement rather than counsel, though. I don't know the current state of Crytek's finances, but the last I looked they were recessing hard. Where's the quid pro quo for the merging back to the engine? Is it standard for any modification of the engine to belong to the IP owner? Because they did something to expect that, and I doubt that it's simply licensing costs. Tippis posted:Quite. But that'll come out as well, and will be the constant gnawing thorn in the whales' bubbery sides. Oh, yeah, don't get me wrong, jizz everywhere, but there's a lot of room to throw around cash. This does raise the stakes for the future revenue streams, though. TheAgent posted:yeah not quite sure why people are like "oh this is for $75k its nothing" because if you read the end part about damages even an idiot like me can see they are looking for tens of millions of dollars and a full stop to the project "the amount in controversy substantially exceeds $75,000." _substantially_ is legal speak for 'all the marbles'. They've signalled intent to go to court and produced quite the laundry list. What's the annual cost per seat for the cryengine tools? Golli posted:Amazon will likely turn on CIG as well, to head off any allegations of collusion in the copyright infringement. Especially if CIG misrepresented their agreement with Crytek to Amazon during their negotiations. This guy gets it.
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