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Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016
Thread title reserved until they make BLOOD MERIDIAN :mad:

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Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

RobotDogPolice posted:

Has anyone posted the poem he wrote about porn where girls wear glasses and spout nerd trivia because he thinks having a big brain is sexy unlike ALPHA MALES?

Edit:



I'm fairly sure he took this down from his website a month or two ago, around the time the first movie trailer came out. Which says it all, really.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

So who exactly is this author related to, or otherwise networked with? This novel is printed proof against the concept of meritocracy.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

cool new Polack jokes posted:

Thread title reserved until they make BLOOD MERIDIAN :mad:

dont give franco any more ideas please

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

We Know Catheters posted:

Wil Wheaton sees nothing wrong with the poster for this trash movie 😑

In the book Wil Wheaton is president.

Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'
in his second book, armada, the guy basically goes on about how good chris roberts and star citizen is

Furia
Jul 26, 2015

Grimey Drawer

Milky Moor posted:

in his second book, armada, the guy basically goes on about how good chris roberts and star citizen is

No way get outta town

GET IN THE ROBOT
Nov 28, 2007

JUST GET IN THE FUCKING ROBOT SHINJI
Ready Player One is basically Neckbeard: the book. I can't believe this guy is an adult in his 40's, because it reads like the wish fulfillment fantasies of a nerd in high school. Holy arrested development, Batman. This is like a proud celebration of every negative nerd stereotype out there.

Moon Atari
Dec 26, 2010

There is nothing wrong with enjoying trashy pulp media. Everyone needs some escapism sometimes. But I think you've got to be way more selective with books than other forms of media. Most media won't make too much of a lasting impression, just some short lived emotional reaction and maybe introducing you to a new idea. But books can worm their way into your phonological loop and alter your internal dialogue, changing the way you think. There is no way in hell I'm letting Ready Player One into my otherwise pristine mind palace where it will undoubtedly crap the place up by blutacking 80's movie posters to the walls.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Gammatron 64 posted:

Ready Player One is basically Neckbeard: the book. I can't believe this guy is an adult in his 40's, because it reads like the wish fulfillment fantasies of a nerd in high school. Holy arrested development, Batman. This is like a proud celebration of every negative nerd stereotype out there.

What drives me nuts is that, while we can all complain about this garbage with valid issues, the dude still got the book bought by a movie company, and now it's a loving SPIELBERG film.

How does that loving happen? :psyduck:

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

I don't think the Spielberg name is what it used to be.

the milk machine
Jul 23, 2002

lick my keys

Moon Atari posted:

There is nothing wrong with enjoying trashy pulp media. Everyone needs some escapism sometimes. But I think you've got to be way more selective with books than other forms of media. Most media won't make too much of a lasting impression, just some short lived emotional reaction and maybe introducing you to a new idea. But books can worm their way into your phonological loop and alter your internal dialogue, changing the way you think. There is no way in hell I'm letting Ready Player One into my otherwise pristine mind palace where it will undoubtedly crap the place up by blutacking 80's movie posters to the walls.

it's just a book dude. yeah it sucks poo poo but it doesn't reprogram your brain or something

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

the milk machine posted:

it's just a book dude. yeah it sucks poo poo but it doesn't reprogram your brain or something

That's what they want you to think

Criminal Minded
Jan 4, 2005

Spring break forever
I was primed to give this book a chance and enjoy it in spite of my misgivings, but no, it really is just that bad. I hate read it one day at work and was astonished this thing became popular. Even if you set aside that the dude can’t write for poo poo nor can he structure a plot without relying wholeheartedly on tropes and clichés, the references that ostensibly make it so fun for Gen X dweebs are so hamfistedly and haphazardly employed that there’s no joy to it at all. Not to mention how surface-level they are. Like, the crux of the dead mega-dweeb’s contest is being able to recite Monty Python and the Holy Grail, possibly the most hallowed nerd property of all-time.

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

Life of Brian is better than Holy Grail anyway.

Moon Atari
Dec 26, 2010

the milk machine posted:

it's just a book dude. yeah it sucks poo poo but it doesn't reprogram your brain or something

That's what steven speilberg thought and now look what has happened.

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

People want nostalgia for it's own sake because their lives are devoid of meaning. a literal list of callbacks is sufficient and it shouldn't be surprising that it is popular, though it is depressing

Dean of Swing
Feb 22, 2012

Criminal Minded posted:

Like, the crux of the dead mega-dweeb’s contest is being able to recite Monty Python and the Holy Grail, possibly the most hallowed nerd property of all-time.

At this point I put down the book and clapped.

satanic splash-back
Jan 28, 2009

"this book is so dumb and bad and gay and full of 80s references," says the man discussing 90s nostalgia on internet forums.

the milk machine
Jul 23, 2002

lick my keys
ready player one should instead have been a novelization of Robocop (1987), the 1987 robocop film. 80's references remain, but only references to Robocop (1987)

the resulting movie would have been better too

edit: the more i think about it the more i want "RPO but Robocop (1987) references only", now that's my kind of 'tism

Furia
Jul 26, 2015

Grimey Drawer

satanic splash-back posted:

"this book is so dumb and bad and gay and full of 80s references," says the man discussing 90s nostalgia on internet forums.

That's the way the author frames it to be fair

So add that to the list of the author's fuckups I guess

Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

What drives me nuts is that, while we can all complain about this garbage with valid issues, the dude still got the book bought by a movie company, and now it's a loving SPIELBERG film.

How does that loving happen? :psyduck:

Spielberg got old

Flailing around like a blind man

WHAT DO AUDIENCES LIKE TODAY? IS IT VR? IS IT MONTY PYTHON, IS THAT WHAT THE KIDS LIKE ?????

At least Lucas had the dignity to sell his poo poo and retire fatly

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:

At least Lucas had the dignity to sell his poo poo and retire fatly

Last I heard, he's fairly grumpy about how the series has been handled since he left it, which is just a massive :lol: that you can't even write. poo poo just writes itself, goddamn.

MeatwadIsGod
Sep 30, 2004

Foretold by Gyromancy
Spielberg directs one great movie per decade and he already met his quota this decade with Lincoln. The rest is middling to bad.

Tim Burns Effect
Apr 1, 2011

Jaws is a great movie and the book is absolute dogshit so who knows

GET IN THE ROBOT
Nov 28, 2007

JUST GET IN THE FUCKING ROBOT SHINJI
Man I tell you what, Ready Player One is a godawful book but it would be a loving amazing movie if Paul Verhoven directed it and gave it the Starship Troopers treatment

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Gammatron 64 posted:

Man I tell you what, Ready Player One is a godawful book but it would be a loving amazing movie if Paul Verhoven directed it and gave it the Starship Troopers treatment

this. so much this.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Tim Burns Effect posted:

Jaws is a great movie and the book is absolute dogshit so who knows

i never knew it was a book. i knew rambo and die hard movies were.

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

Gammatron 64 posted:

Man I tell you what, Ready Player One is a godawful book but it would be a loving amazing movie if Paul Verhoven directed it and gave it the Starship Troopers treatment

Starship Troopers isn't a terrible book though, the politics in it are pretty bad, but they aren't as straight up fascist as is often thought, it's more of an early and much more authoritarian version of Heinlein's later politics really. '

Anyway if you were to do that to RPO then I guess one thing you could kind of do is instead of play up society's (online and offline) obsession with 80s nostalgia (it's not just the main character) as really cool and take the flip side of this and explore how essentially the world the book describes is one where innovation and cultural development are completely dead, only looking back.

ChickenHeart
Nov 28, 2007

Take me at your own risk.

Kiss From a Hog

Gammatron 64 posted:

Man I tell you what, Ready Player One is a godawful book but it would be a loving amazing movie if Paul Verhoven directed it and gave it the Starship Troopers treatment

I would pay big money for a "As his success in the VR world grows, his health and welfare in the real world deteriorates" spin in the movie. James Cameron really dropped the ball with that idea in Avatar.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

the milk machine posted:

ready player one should instead have been a novelization of Robocop (1987), the 1987 robocop film. 80's references remain, but only references to Robocop (1987)

the resulting movie would have been better too

edit: the more i think about it the more i want "RPO but Robocop (1987) references only", now that's my kind of 'tism
Hand to god this would have been a better take on "80s Neckbeard: The Motion Picture" in a lovely 'post-modern' kind-of way.

GET IN THE ROBOT
Nov 28, 2007

JUST GET IN THE FUCKING ROBOT SHINJI

Randarkman posted:

Starship Troopers isn't a terrible book though, the politics in it are pretty bad, but they aren't as straight up fascist as is often thought, it's more of an early and much more authoritarian version of Heinlein's later politics really. '

Anyway if you were to do that to RPO then I guess one thing you could kind of do is instead of play up society's (online and offline) obsession with 80s nostalgia (it's not just the main character) as really cool and take the flip side of this and explore how essentially the world the book describes is one where innovation and cultural development are completely dead, only looking back.

That's what I would do. Comment on cultural stagnation and the reverence of pop culture to the point where it practically becomes a religion. I'd also depict a world where become so obsessed with escapist fantasy that the real world completely goes to hell. Ready Player One is the self-indulgent masturbatory fantasies of a stereotypical neckbeard with no hint of self-awareness at all, but you could take its concept and spin it into a great cautionary tale \ social satire.

You could even leave the main character exactly as he is, except instead of having people applaud him for being a basement dweller, he is reviled by everyone, completely alienates all the people he meets, doesn't get the girl (well he may get a restraining order) and he ultimately fails in his quest. It would be like a modern Confederacy of Dunces.

One of the best and most accurate depictions of "geek culture" I have ever seen is Eltingville which is hilariously and terrifyingly true to life.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gK0uNlLa3s

the milk machine
Jul 23, 2002

lick my keys

mind the walrus posted:

Hand to god this would have been a better take on "80s Neckbeard: The Motion Picture" in a lovely 'post-modern' kind-of way.



there's just something i really like about REFERENCES: THE MOVIE, except it's all references to one thing/media property

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

the milk machine posted:

there's just something i really like about REFERENCES: THE MOVIE, except it's all references to one thing/media property
It speaks to the general insipidity of references as a substitute for narrative weight via an insanely particular example no one in their right mind would think of as a proper basis for a cultural nexus. Make it Robocop 2 instead of Robocop though.

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

Gammatron 64 posted:

That's what I would do. Comment on cultural stagnation and the reverence of pop culture to the point where it practically becomes a religion. I'd also depict a world where become so obsessed with escapist fantasy that the real world completely goes to hell. Ready Player One is the self-indulgent masturbatory fantasies of a stereotypical neckbeard with no hint of self-awareness at all, but you could take its concept and spin it into a great cautionary tale \ social satire.

You could even leave the main character exactly as he is, except instead of having people applaud him for being a basement dweller, he is reviled by everyone, completely alienates all the people he meets, doesn't get the girl (well he may get a restraining order) and he ultimately fails in his quest. It would be like a modern Confederacy of Dunces.

One of the best and most accurate depictions of "geek culture" I have ever seen is Eltingville which is hilariously and terrifyingly true to life.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gK0uNlLa3s

The book kind of does this actually, though it does drown in all the reference-wanking, there is a kernel of decent, but not terribly original, sci-fi dystopia in there, one that is caused by not just resource scarcity but also that people have abandoned the real world.

I wouldn't do the second thing you suggest though, you kind of want to do the Starship Troopers route where on the surface there is a happy ending, but if you look at it a little and think about it, it's ultimately all in the service of a rotten society.

Testikles
Feb 22, 2009

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

Last I heard, he's fairly grumpy about how the series has been handled since he left it, which is just a massive :lol: that you can't even write. poo poo just writes itself, goddamn.

He apparently liked Episode VIII and said it is beautifully made

Mirage
Oct 27, 2000

All is for the best, in this, the best of all possible worlds
OG cyberpunk from the 80's accepted that the future was going to be dank and lovely and full of brand names. RPO looks like it takes the brand name aspect and runs so hard and far with it that its feet fall off, as written by a Trivial Pursuit "I Love the 80's Edition" grand champion.

I don't mind the idea of a real world that's crumbling because the virtual world is better in every way, but not like this. Not like this. (Which I suddenly remembered is what Switch said in that old movie The Matrix before the evil hacker Cipher pulls out her cyberplug, which kills her by causing her consciousness to flatline. That was the clue I needed to lead me to the Golden Axe which I needed to defeat Dance Dance Karnov.)

Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

Furia posted:

No way get outta town

Would I lie in this hallowed thread?



Testikles posted:

He apparently liked Episode VIII and said it is beautifully made

Which is damning with faint praise.

hackbunny
Jul 22, 2007

I haven't been on SA for years but the person who gave me my previous av as a joke felt guilty for doing so and decided to get me a non-shitty av

Gammatron 64 posted:

One of the best and most accurate depictions of "geek culture" I have ever seen is Eltingville which is hilariously and terrifyingly true to life.

I read the comic and it's nothing short of horrifying. it's so bleak and misanthropic that in comparison, the over the top violence is almost funny

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mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Milky Moor posted:

Which is damning with faint praise.
How?

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