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MinorInconvenience posted:Okay, fine. But CIG decided to terminate the license. Then CIG went with someone else (Amazon). The language quoted does not clearly state that CIG could not just stop using CryEngine. That's what I want to see. Oh god, this is like that "what's a chicken" question from Frigaliment edit taxxe:  skadden kittens taking on cig (unlike cig i rescued it) kw0134 fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Dec 14, 2017 |
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Pharohman777 posted:Arent there 2 other lawsuits or something waiting in the wings? I think Dereck smart said that. Yep. Assumption is that one of them is Coutts.
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Veni Vidi Ameche! posted:SKADDEN, PARPS, SLATE, MEAGHER & FLOM
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Milky Moor posted:Yep. Assumption is that one of them is Coutts. The third one is me
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alphabettitouretti posted:Great timing on this, just top notch work fellas. I'm sure it's all going to work out for you. Big boom in housing on the horizon. 
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peter gabriel posted:The third one is me no pgabz!! the courthouse doesn't deserve your anger!!
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I heard the next ship sale is going a Xian ship type called La'yrs Ph'ees
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alphabettitouretti posted:It's good but it's no Tundra4 or Port Rhombus. I am loving everyone in this thread right now I need to crack out the whiskey, I haven't listened to that in loving ages e- Tundra 4
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Veni Vidi Ameche! posted:Yeah. I can tell the firm is for real because their name sounds like something someone made up for a sitcom. Only a badass lawfirm would dare have a name like SKADDEN, ARPS, SLATE, MEAGHER & FLOM. I mean, Flom? That's the real poo poo, right there. $75k is the minimum amount to get into federal court on "diversity" jurisdiction. (I'd explain, but take my word, it's too boring and you don't want to know.) And you don't gently caress with Joe Flom. eta: well, you didn't gently caress with Joe Flom until he died back in 2011. Probably still a bad idea.
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December 13 Never Forget
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Crytek are suing the makers of Star Citizen; CIG call it a "meritless lawsuit"quote:Another detail in Crytek’s complaint is that the Game License Agreement stipulates that the splash screen, credits, documentation, and packaging, as well as the marketing materials for Star Citizen needed to include Crytek’s copyright notice and both the Crytek and CryEngine trademarks. You can see in the Gamescom 2016 demo, that CIG and RSI did not follow those directions:
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gently caress, the thread actually paused long enough for me to read a whole page. You crazy bastards 
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Scruffpuff posted:I don't think backers have it in their heads yet that CIG is hopelessly outclassed by this company. "Go get 'em, Ortwin!" isn't going to cut it. What I can't quite wrap my head around is the reddit brigade piling poo poo on Crytek while the very "game" they adore so much is designed on top of it no matter what label gets tossed on. I'm sure there is some german word for it.
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kw0134 posted:I wouldn't put it past a judge to go "well I'm not sure I understand whether this 'code' is Crytek or whatever" and defer judgment until there's at least some discovery. You’re right. Lots of judges like to let things linger longer than they should if only because they (a) hope for a settlement so they don’t have to do any work or (b) “appeal-proof” any decision they do make with lots of good facts from discovery and/or trial.
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MinorInconvenience posted:Okay, fine. But CIG decided to terminate the license. Then CIG went with someone else (Amazon). The language quoted does not clearly state that CIG could not just stop using CryEngine. That's what I want to see. I highly recommend a glass or two of Jamesons and your favourite music in the background and just let all the answers flow out into the screen That's what I do
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All you backers reading this better get over to the Star Citizen store, because it is last call for jpegs
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Star Citizen Dev Being Sued By Crytek Over Breach Of Contract And Copyright Infringementquote:In the lawsuit, Crytek is looking to reclaim direct damages of around $75,000, along with "indirect damages, consequential damages (including lost profits), special damages, costs, fees, and expenses incurred by reason of Defendants' breach of contract and copyright infringement." Crytek also wants a "permanent injunction" against Cloud Imperium that would prevent the company from using any of Crytek's copyrighted work. Further still, Crytek is looking to claim an amount of Cloud Imperium's profits at trial based on its reported breach of contract and copyright infringement. Additionally, Crytek is seeing punitive damages in the amount to be determined during a trial.
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Colostomy Bag posted:What I can't quite wrap my head around is the reddit brigade piling poo poo on Crytek while the very "game" they adore so much is designed on top of it no matter what label gets tossed on. I'm sure there is some german word for it. Kognitive Dissonanz
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https://twitter.com/Roughly9owls/status/941090259042844672 https://twitter.com/alexesther/status/941088896376381441 https://twitter.com/Agentxk/status/941088713253191680 https://twitter.com/MannyGPT/status/941088671008264192
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Over 1k posts in a day. Guys. Girls. For reals. 
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SomethingJones posted:I highly recommend a glass or two of Jamesons and your favourite music in the background and just let all the answers flow out into the screen Way ahead of you, my friend. I'm already on my third glass of Gentleman Jack (neat). Edit: I have my kids tonight. Can't do the parenting poo poo sober....
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MinorInconvenience posted:Way ahead of you, my friend. I'm already on my third glass of Gentleman Jack (neat). Good man, good man, neat is the only and true way Cheers!
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i just talked to a pretty fancy lawyer and he's not as optimistic about this lawsuit as most. he says sicne the game isn't out and probably won't ever be they basically can't show profits and any money they collect related to the crowdfunding stuff would have to be stipulated in the contract CIG breached. also the permanent injunction only barely maybe stands a chance as it relates to squadron 42 not star citizen because that's all contract breach stuff not copyright infringement stuff
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Skipping ahead a few dozen pages to ask - if cig is found to have breached their agreement with crytek , would that mean all the money they received from the UK government to make a game be due to be returned ? Technically it sounds like to me the game they are making is going to be legally poo poo canned , so all that government hand out money would be deemed to not be cigs since they essentially lied to obtain it
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Foo Diddley posted:Too late lol Yup, the train has left the platform. Hope you said your goodbyes to your
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ZekeNY posted:$75k is the minimum amount to get into federal court on "diversity" jurisdiction. (I'd explain, but take my word, it's too boring and you don't want to know.) Well now I don't know about the validity of CryTek's lawsuit. When you are talking about suing people from beyond the grave obviously the advantage is with Sandi "Lord of the Skeletons" Gardiner. She went to zombie Harvard over 32,000 years ago. What's this freshdead punkass going to do with his six years in the ground?
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Blue On Blue posted:Skipping ahead a few dozen pages to ask Technically, the money goes directly to the bank because from what I remember CIG was just having them pick the money automatically
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That DICK! posted:they basically can't show profits https://robertsspaceindustries.com/funding-goals
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That DICK! posted:i just talked to a pretty fancy lawyer and he's not as optimistic about this lawsuit as most. he says sicne the game isn't out and probably won't ever be they basically can't show profits and any money they collect related to the crowdfunding stuff would have to be stipulated in the contract CIG breached. also the permanent injunction only barely maybe stands a chance as it relates to squadron 42 not star citizen because that's all contract breach stuff not copyright infringement stuff Tell your fancy lawyer friend to stop spreading FUD!
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Ahahahaha! So they settled the lawsuit about the office construction "stuff" (I bet it was that stupid space door) and then, get hit with a federal suit for Copyright infringement. Ya don goofed Crobbler. Someone should see if Leonard French will do one of his Sunday YouTube things on this. He's an actual copyright attorney, his analysis should be funny stuff.
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SomethingJones posted:Good man, good man, neat is the only and true way Prost! and Saluti! I cannot wait to see what happens next. This is so drat fun. But I'll call it here. Meritorious or not, this lawsuit is gonna sink Croberts &Co. God, I hope they file for bankruptcy in SDNY or DE.
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MinorInconvenience posted:Prost! and Saluti! Sláinte!
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https://www.kotaku.com.au/2017/12/crytek-sues-star-citizen-makers-for-breaching-contract/quote:The complaint alleges that CIG used Crytek's engine for another game (the standalone module Squadron 42), failed to collaborate, and shared Crytek's code with other parties, breaking confidentiality agreements. (Those other parties, according to the lawsuit, include a series of public videos called Bugsmashers and a third-party technology company called Faceware.) Star Citizen is undone due to Face Over IP. Incredible If this mob was going to fall apart over anything, it'd be the most extravagant and useless feature-promise they never actually included in the game
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Milky Moor posted:Yep. Assumption is that one of them is Coutts. If the world were a just place the moron who approved the loan at Coutts is fired
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PrimeNerd posted:Ahahahaha! So they settled the lawsuit about the office construction "stuff" (I bet it was that stupid space door) and then, get hit with a federal suit for Copyright infringement. Ya don goofed Crobbler. Someone should see if Leonard French will do one of his Sunday YouTube things on this. He's an actual copyright attorney, his analysis should be funny stuff. No. That lawsuit predates the door and comes from around the time they moved offices.
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MinorInconvenience posted:Way ahead of you, my friend. I'm already on my third glass of Gentleman Jack (neat). Nice choice. Wait til they hit the teen years, you'll be ordering booze by the pallet.
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That DICK! posted:i just talked to a pretty fancy lawyer and he's not as optimistic about this lawsuit as most. he says sicne the game isn't out and probably won't ever be they basically can't show profits and any money they collect related to the crowdfunding stuff would have to be stipulated in the contract CIG breached. also the permanent injunction only barely maybe stands a chance as it relates to squadron 42 not star citizen because that's all contract breach stuff not copyright infringement stuff Eh. Maybe. But the damages awarded (if any) isn't what will kill CIG. The litigation costs alone likely will. It's loving Skadden Arps. As much as I hate those fuckers, they can throw an army at you. Just remember, modern American litigation is no different that the old "trial by combat" of the medieval times. Just instead of muscles and sword skills, it's intelligence and oratorical skills. Skadden is the 7' armor-clad badass going after the 50 pound midget here.
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