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heh crytek more like... cry... tek... am i right fellow shitizens?
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From the FDev forum This is from user 'ZeeWolf' posted in response to a question about Erin's comment that they'd bought the engine outright. This is all over my head e: but seems to be saying that the license is perpetual? As in you don't get to terminate it? ZeeWolf posted:They bought a source code licence. That's standard practice and applies when companies partner up with all kinds of vendors where the product is offering something that essentially provides a high amount of risk should the product fail (CMS, Web platforms, API, engines etc.)
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 01:30 |
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This is amazing and the fact that Derek Smart Called It is the cherry that makes it perfect in every way
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MarcusSA posted:Man gently caress this guy. He's already hosed himself. Just strap in and wait for bankruptcy at this point. Schaudenfruede is pretty great.
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 01:31 |
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SomethingJones posted:Knowing Derek whatever else is going to spill out is going to be, dare I say it, more and worse It's not out of the realm of possibility that a RICO investigation is underway, given that CIG meets the structural requirements (RICO is not just for mafia dons anymore) for the statute to apply and the speculation about money laundering. Whether they determine the criminal acts, if any occurred, warrant a RICO indictment is yet to be determined. However, I think that if there is a third-party confirmation that a RICO investigation is currently underway or a RICO indictment is issued, then CIG is done - regardless of whether there is ultimately a conviction. I don't think anyone wants to be associated with a RICO target.
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 01:31 |
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Have any forum internet lawyers has a good look at the pleadings yet? What's the verdict? Also are there pre-action protocols in the USA/the relevant states requiring parties to pursue ADR solutions before issuing proceedings?Conspiratiorist posted:Jason Schrier can eat poo poo tho
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 01:32 |
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kw0134 posted:Yeah, at the point where you're getting into the weeds of what's a "profit" so you can minimize your adverse judgment the case has gone very very badly for you. And there are all sorts of knock-on effects well before that step like loss of consumer confidence, employee morale is shot, if it's not already completely absent, other carrion birds circling the corpse ready to extract their share. Yeah they're turbofucked. The very best case is this is without merit and thrown out the moment it gets in front of a judge, and there's no other 100% guaranteed legal action coming their way (lol). Even then it will have (or has?) done so much damage to their already terrible reputation they'll never recover. It'll be that much harder to hire staff, and the backers they rely on will lose confidence. They aren't a normal company with a viable product and steady income, they're operating on presales in the hope of actually finishing something one day and it being a huge success. Star citizen is a big joke and is going to go down in infamy. Crobbers legacy is going to be overseeing one of the biggest disasters in gaming history.
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https://i.imgur.com/Y2IPafU.gifv
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SomethingJones posted:From the FDev forum Actually, you can download the CryEngine for free off of their website, so CIG has done nothing wrong by redistributing what was already free. No, I haven't read the terms of service, why do you ask?
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 01:34 |
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Dooguk posted:Fancy City Lawyer: "Is the person who committed this heinous crime in this courtroom" Judge: "The defendant will rise to be sentenced. In the last 500 years, the Fourth Stimpire has dominated four systems . . ."
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 01:34 |
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MinorInconvenience posted:Eh. Maybe. But the damages awarded (if any) isn't what will kill CIG. The litigation costs alone likely will. It's loving Skadden Arps. As much as I hate those fuckers, they can throw an army at you. Dont forget about Coutts holding the loan and the ramifications of that.
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I think more than cig is like to see the ultra hard line backers get slapped down by these lawyers too Guys like Clifford who have cheered cig on for years while they fleece cash hand over fist , come on Clifford write another nice tweet and make it real nasty. Lawyers love when you get nasty with them
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 01:35 |
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https://i.imgur.com/i2RbqNY.mp4
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 01:35 |
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SomethingJones posted:From the FDev forum No, you buy the right to use the product (code). As long as the code company exists, you have to pay them for the license. Now, if the code company were to fall over, you have build a product based on code from a company that no longer can support/maintain that code. That will kill your business as well in the long run. In case that happens, you have the right to use the code as were it your code. So even if the original code company doesn't exist anymore, you can add, change, upgrade etc. the code yourself. But you can't do that as long a the original code company exists. Is basically a guarantee that you can use somebody elses code without risking you company along the way too. This might has been a guess that Chris took. If CryTek would go bankrupt, he could have continued to use his custom CE code without having to pay for it. That's probably why he didn't pay them, just waiting for them to fall over and having an engine for free. When Amazon saved CryTek, Chris knew he was hosed and had to pay CryTek. By switching to Lumberyard, he tried to avoid those costs. Probably. mjotto fucked around with this message at 01:41 on Dec 14, 2017 |
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ZekeNY posted:Judge: "The defendant will rise to be sentenced. In the last 500 years, the Fourth Stimpire has dominated four systems . . ." LOL perfect ending.
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 01:36 |
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Dying!
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 01:37 |
Crobbler: No, your Honor! Judge: There's no hope for him now. He's sufferin'. You know we gotta do it. Crobbler: I know, your Honor... But Star Citizen was my game... I'll do it.
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 01:37 |
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That stupid smug smile works really well for this.
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 01:37 |
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turn off the TV posted:Actually, you can download the CryEngine for free off of their website, so CIG has done nothing wrong by redistributing what was already free. Let's get this guy in front of the judge and CIG will be off the hook in mere minutes.
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 01:37 |
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The Titanic posted:
He just needs to post his balls
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 01:38 |
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 01:38 |
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holy loving poo poo derek called it!!!!
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 01:39 |
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PrimeNerd posted:The reason I think it involved that door is one of the defendants was an electrical contractor. It could be something even dumber like putting in electrical drops for the artists workstations. I can't come up with something dumber but this is CIG we are talking about, it is probably way way stupider. I can understand that, but that lawsuit was already filed before the wall that the door was put into was torn down. it may also be from their prior studio before the one they moved into that has the door and the permanent hobo van parked outside. I really want to know who the hell lived there, are they a CiG employee? This guy. https://www.google.com/maps/@34.030...8i6656?hl=en-US
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 01:40 |
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G0RF posted:Dying! https://twitter.com/commando_tom/status/941105512669736961
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https://www.hardocp.com/news/2017/12/13/crytek_hates_star_citizen_squadron_42
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 01:41 |
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SomethingJones posted:From the FDev forum Perpetual intellectual property licenses are a thing, and it does mean that you "own" it. Courts treat it as a property right, instead of a terminable contract. The question is whether there are rights going the other way (from licensor to licensee). Those are not usually considered to be property rights... just contract rights. I might be too far into the bottle to be clear here. But that seems to be the crux of the argument Crytek is making. Can't wait to see the result. Althought suspect CIG is so cash poor that any result will end up with them in some form of Title 11 of the U.S. Code (i.e., bankruptcy) administration. Hold on to your seats, boys, 'cause this ride is gonna get bumpy.
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juggalo baby coffin posted:i'm worried that because this is hell world CIG will somehow wriggle out of this No, there is no other road than 100% comedy here. Take for example the best case scenario for backers - CIG wins, Crytek are defeated and Star Citizen releases. Every. single. time. a backer loads the game up, there will be a Crytek logo there and every time the backer will feel impotent rage. Each session in the 'Universe will begin with a feeling of resentment.
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 01:42 |
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This will be the most-watched ATV ever.
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 01:43 |
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Star Citizen: Crytek can suck my Lumberyard
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James Y. Pak Counsel, Intellectual Property Litigation James Y. Pak focuses his practice on litigating intellectual property matters, including patent infringement, copyright infringement and trade secret misappropriation. Bio posted:In addition to litigation, his practice also involves counseling companies on acquiring, evaluating, licensing and protecting intellectual property assets. He has assisted companies in transactions including corporate mergers and acquisitions and patent portfolio acquisitions. Kevin J. Minnick Counsel, Litigation Kevin Minnick's practice focuses on large-scale class action defense, primarily involving consumer protection and securities laws. He also has represented clients in qui tam, patent and appellate matters. Bio posted:Mr. Minnick's clients include companies in the financial services, apparel, automobile, real estate and health care industries. P. Anthony Sammi Partner, Intellectual Property Litigation P. Anthony Sammi is head of the Intellectual Property Litigation Group. He litigates complex, high-profile IP cases at the trial and appellate levels. Bio posted:Mr. Sammi has widely been recognized in the legal and mainstream press. His cases have been reported on, and he has been quoted by, outlets such as The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Post, CNBC, Bloomberg, Vanity Fair, BBC News, USA Today and The Hollywood Reporter, among many others. In the legal press, the National Law Journal named Mr. Sammi as one of its 2017 Winning Litigators and has also described his closing arguments in a jury trial as a “virtuoso performance.” Additionally, Mr. Sammi was named to the National Law Journal’s list of 2017 Intellectual Property Trailblazers for being an innovator in his field, was named as one of Law360’s 2017 MVPs for Trials and also has been selected for inclusion in Best Lawyers in America and Lawdragon 500 Leading Lawyers in America.
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 01:45 |
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how long till you can donate to the star citizen legal fund? this could be their greatest source of income yet
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Golli posted:It's not out of the realm of possibility that a RICO investigation is underway, given that CIG meets the structural requirements (RICO is not just for mafia dons anymore) for the statute to apply and the speculation about money laundering. At this point nothing would surprise me. Regardless of the outcome that's a criminal investigation happening to the guy who signs your paycheques, gently caress that, nobody wants that poo poo going on trying to do a days work
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juggalo baby coffin posted:how long till you can donate to the star citizen legal fund? this could be their greatest source of income yet pledge now citizen for a complementary "Ortwins stretched out face on a ship" skin
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 01:48 |
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Defense: Your honor, we wish to call discolando to the stand. Judge: Very well. Bailiff, wake the hobo on the steps of this courthouse and lead him in here please.
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Mirificus posted:In this corner... In the Blue Corner, representing the defendants: freyermuth.net posted:Ortwin Freyermuth is an internationally recognized and experienced entertain-ment and media lawyer with 25 years of legal and executive experience in the media industry. Freyermuth's law practice focuses on financing, develop-ment, and production of US-European film, television, and games projects, as well as transatlantic corporate set-ups and operations. Over the past 10 years alone, he has worked on, and assisted with the financing and production of feature films, and mini-series as well as the development and publishing of games with a production volume in excess of US$900 million. Let's have a clean fight!
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 01:49 |
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juggalo baby coffin posted:how long till you can donate to the star citizen legal fund? this could be their greatest source of income yet it'll come out as "pledge insurance". give now and ensure your pledge is safe!
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 01:49 |
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Let's all take a moment to remember this too: even if CIG hasn't drunkenly run through a legal minefield they are still on the hook for the presold game and it's multitude of insane promises like space news vans, super advanced AI and procedural birds. This poo poo was never gonna happen before, it just might fall apart a lot quicker and noisier now.
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https://twitter.com/RobertsSpaceInd/status/941107612732542981
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